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  • [Idea] Paradise Pier Hotel & Paradise Cove

    The parking lot section that is by Paradise Pier Hotel just across from Paradise Pier(land) is large enough to put a decent sized water park. In fact it is just slightly bigger than the footprint of Soak City by Knotts.

    Since it hardly ever gets used and the resort could use a small water park why not build a small victorian themed water park?

    The water park would have 2 entrances... a themed main entrance and then a side entrance thru PP Hotel. The hotel itself would have to be demolished and rebuilt - to a style that would fit both PP(land) and the new adjacent water park.

    The new hotel would be more "U" shaped with the main lobby near the traffic circle of Downtown Drive and Paradise Pier Drive. A new small parking structure would be built adjoining the hotel(next to what was the hotels original parking structure).

    Paradise Cove would consist of a small wave machine, lazy river, and themed slides. The lazy river would circle a small island that would be accessed from 2 foot bridges which would cross the river. The island would have a small children's play area and a beach type "lagoon" entrance that would leave out into the lazy river.

    These changes and additions would help with 4 things:

    (1)a hotel that blends with Victorian theme
    (2)satisfy people's need of a Disney water park, but still small enough to be ok with sitting empty during cold months
    (3)increase foottraffic to Downtown Disney
    (4)increase parking
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    Re: Paradise Pier Hotel & Paradise Cove

    Disney just converted the parking lot that used to be used mainly for CM and DtD employees, plus Downtown Disney parking to Theme Park Parking to replace the Timon Lot, which is being converted to Cars Land. Disney is have serious parking issues, and there is no way that Disney can afford to give up the land at the present time.

    Plus Orange County/LA has PLENTY of water parks, between Knott's Soak City, Wild Rivers, Raging Waters and Six Flags Hurrican Harbor. Plus Garden Grove is looking to build a upscale Indoor water park.

    I don't see Disney touching a water park at this time. It is labor intensive, and for the most part, a seasonal attraction.
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      I think that if a small waterpark was built, it would feel incredibly cramped due to the swarms of people that visit the DLR. The DLR seems to be by far the most popular SoCal attraction and I don't think that a small park could keep up with the crowds.

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        I really love that idea. I like everything about it. The only downsides are parking and of course money, but if Disney could find a way to do this they should do it. I don't think a water park would be a problem. Florida gets more rain than southern California, and Blizzard Beach and Typhoon Lagoon are getting along just fine. Your idea is very appropriate for the area.

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          Re: Paradise Pier Hotel & Paradise Cove

          Thanks WDITrent!

          Darkbeer, since this is an idea and most ideas take many years to come to light... something of this size wouldnt even be touched with a construction crew till after DCA is finished.

          Darkbeer and DisneyPro, for how hot SoCal gets there is always room for another water park. Granted my idea isnt for anything tooo big but with the space provided Disney could do alot. Also if Soak City can't fill up with the small price they charge I doubt Paradise Cove (if built) could fill up with a "Disney" price tag.
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            I am not a fan of the Victorian theme but I am all for a water park. I was thinking if Disney could find a way of making a huge retractable roof that doesn't look bad, then it would be a great year round attraction!

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              Re: Paradise Pier Hotel & Paradise Cove

              Originally posted by ICe101 View Post
              I am not a fan of the Victorian theme but I am all for a water park. I was thinking if Disney could find a way of making a huge retractable roof that doesn't look bad, then it would be a great year round attraction!
              actually if you take the idea of the roofs they had for the Sutro Baths in San Francisco.... you could easily do a Victorian water park in doors.

              Last edited by Alpoe001; 07-25-2009, 09:44 AM.
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                Re: Paradise Pier Hotel & Paradise Cove

                Originally posted by Alpoe001 View Post
                actually if you take the idea of the roofs they had for the Sutro Baths in San Francisco.... you could easily do a Victorian water park in doors.
                That would be a great idea!

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                  Re: Paradise Pier Hotel & Paradise Cove

                  even the ideas used in the Lurline Baths would work well for an in door park
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                    Re: Paradise Pier Hotel & Paradise Cove

                    Originally posted by WDITrent View Post
                    I really love that idea. I like everything about it. The only downsides are parking and of course money, but if Disney could find a way to do this they should do it. I don't think a water park would be a problem. Florida gets more rain than southern California, and Blizzard Beach and Typhoon Lagoon are getting along just fine. Your idea is very appropriate for the area.
                    Florida does get more rain than Southern California for sure. But when it does rain in Anaheim it is COLD. There is no water park that is open year-round here, so that is something Disney would want to take into consideration.

                    One other thing Disney needs to consider is that it is the closest US park to the ocean. Disneyland is only 20 minutes away from the beach cities of Huntington and Newport, and so that is also a competitive factor that would not make Disney want to look into building a water park.

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                    • #11
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                      ^That's very true. I still think it's a fun idea, though.

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                      • #12
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                        ^^^ but how many people actually go to the beach...besides surfers? I personally wouldnt want to go in most of the waters around this area. at a water park you dont have to worry about red tide, dead fish, rip tides, or sewage
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                          Re: Paradise Pier Hotel & Paradise Cove

                          Originally posted by DisneyPro View Post
                          I think that if a small waterpark was built, it would feel incredibly cramped due to the swarms of people that visit the DLR. The DLR seems to be by far the most popular SoCal attraction and I don't think that a small park could keep up with the crowds.
                          Actually you could easily fit Blizzard Beach into that lot.

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                            Originally posted by k_peek_2000 View Post
                            Actually you could easily fit Blizzard Beach into that lot.
                            and thats my point! Disney could do alot with that space and not have to use the Strawberry fields for a waterpark
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                            • #15
                              Re: Paradise Pier Hotel & Paradise Cove

                              Love this idea Alpoe001! I was wondering this very thing a while ago. A decent-sized water park would easily fit next to PPH, and would play off the Paradise Pier theme very well. It's also a good use of land, turning parking into an attraction and leaving the strawberry field open for a third gate. It probably would only be feasible after a parking structure is built on Pumbaa or Pinocchio, though.

                              In regards to the nearby beach/other competition... I'll say from personal experience, when my family goes to Disneyland from Indiana, we take the Disney bus from the airport straight to our on-property hotel... and there we stay. We go to Disneyland (usually 2 or 3 times) and DCA, shop at Downtown Disney, and eat on-property. We've even seen a movie at the AMC because it's right there. It's a lot easier than renting a car and braving the SoCal traffic. So rest assured we would certainly take adantage of any added entertainment within walking distance... like a water park.

                              As for the weather... they could build the park half-indoors, half-outdoors, keeping only the indoors open on colder days.

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