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  • [Chat] The Adventures of Ichabod and Mr. Toad dark ride

    I just finished watching The Adventures of Ichabod and Mr. Toad. I was thinking to myself, what made them choose to create a Toad ride and not an Ichabod one? I thought maybe it was due to the horror feel of Ichabod Crane, but then again, Mr. Toad's Wild Ride ends in Hell. Maybe Disney never even considered Ichabod/The Legend of Sleepy Hollow.

    What would've been awesome is if both stories were told in one ride. I imagine after the Toad section ends, there would've been an introduction to Ichabod. Maybe some narration, or something, and then we would have ridden the Sleepy Hollow part. It would be one heck of a dark ride and seriously cool. I would think there's no space for something like this, but it's still fun to imagine the concept.
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    A Sleepy Hollow attraction was considered in the late 1960s for the Magic Kingdom to occupy the space that opened with Mr. Toad's Wild Ride, now The Many Adventures of Winnie the Pooh.

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      Originally posted by lazyboy97O View Post
      A Sleepy Hollow attraction was considered in the late 1960s for the Magic Kingdom to occupy the space that opened with Mr. Toad's Wild Ride, now The Many Adventures of Winnie the Pooh.
      I didn't know that. I did know they were considering building a Marry Poppins ride for MK.

      Do you know why they didn't go with the Ichabod idea?
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        Originally posted by jasmineray View Post
        I didn't know that. I did know they were considering building a Marry Poppins ride for MK.

        Do you know why they didn't go with the Ichabod idea?
        Because Roy O. Disney, who had assumed control of Disney to get WDW open as a last honor for Walt, insisted that the Imagineers remain true to Walt's original thinking at Disneyland and retain the Peter Pan, Mr. Toad and Snow White rides. The Imagineers did, however, make sure the rides themselves were not entirely identical to the ones in California.
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        1. Big Thunder Mountain Railroad
        2. Pirates of the Caribbean
        3. Splash Mountain
        4. Mad Tea Party
        5. Peter Pan's Flight
        6. Roger Rabbit's Car Toon Spin

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          The Headless Horseman was proposed early on for what became the Haunted Mansion. Here is a 1957 proposal for the "Haunted House":

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            They also have the Headless Horseman as the open for the Halloween parade at Disney World's Magic Kingdom. I wish they had that here at Disneyland too. Too bad they couldn't do the Ichabod attraction now that the Snow White ride is gone over there.

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              Having grown up in the 60s and 70s, it was sort of a different era back then. A lot of people didn't take any too kindly to having the living daylights scared out of them.

              Certainly, Ichabod could easily be mellowed, but I think the general overall theme might not have fit in back then.

              Plus, they had their hands full with the other dark rides.

              But, yes, looking back from here, it would have been a great addition to an excellent area of the park.

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                It was one of the ideas they had for Fantasyland dark rides when designing the Magic Kingdom in WDW.
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                  Re: The Adventures of Ichabod and Mr. Toad dark ride

                  Originally posted by lazyboy97O View Post
                  A Sleepy Hollow attraction was considered in the late 1960s for the Magic Kingdom to occupy the space that opened with Mr. Toad's Wild Ride, now The Many Adventures of Winnie the Pooh.
                  Originally posted by jasmineray View Post
                  I didn't know that. I did know they were considering building a Marry Poppins ride for MK.

                  Do you know why they didn't go with the Ichabod idea?
                  Originally posted by Disneylandfan85 View Post
                  Because Roy O. Disney, who had assumed control of Disney to get WDW open as a last honor for Walt, insisted that the Imagineers remain true to Walt's original thinking at Disneyland and retain the Peter Pan, Mr. Toad and Snow White rides. The Imagineers did, however, make sure the rides themselves were not entirely identical to the ones in California.
                  Yes, and the Imagineers categorized the original 3 Disneyland dark rides based on tone: Snow White = scary
                  Peter Pan = beautiful
                  Mr. Toad = wild and crazy

                  Their original plans for WDW were different, but based on those same tones:
                  Sleeping Beauty = scary
                  Mary Poppins = beautiful
                  Ichabod Crane = wild and crazy

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                    wasn't one of the original designers on mansion also the director of Ichabod?

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                      Originally posted by micromind View Post
                      Having grown up in the 60s and 70s, it was sort of a different era back then. A lot of people didn't take any too kindly to having the living daylights scared out of them.
                      60s - Psycho, The Haunting, Rosemary's Baby
                      70s - The Exorcist, Jaws, Texas Chainsaw Massacre

                      People were plenty down with being scared. And the original 1955 Snow White ride was scarier. The 83 redo toned it down a bit.

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                        As a kid in the 50s and 60s who rode Toad many times, what I recall of other guests' reaction to the Hell scene was seeing the grins on their faces as their cars came out of that last door. I never heard of anyone being frightened or offended -- the goofy giggling of the little devils and their silly jiggle-animation made the scene funny. (Even my little sister liked it, and she was terrified of snakes, spiders, spooky Halloween costumes, Frankenstein, the Wicked Witch of the West, 4th of July fireworks, thunder & lightning and barking dogs! )
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                          Walt wanted all of the dark rides in his original Fantasyland to teach individual lessons. Mr. Toad's lesson is obviously a warning about reckless driving and what it can lead to. I think that if Imagineers attempted to combine the two stories together that that lesson would have been muddled.




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                            I made a ride on RCT3 based on Sleepy Hollow. Enjoy.
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                              That was awesome basketbuddy......I'am loving this thread :yea:

                              Sleepy Hollow Trivia time:

                              Easy: What was the name of the townies who hung out with Brom Bones?

                              Advanced: What state did Ichabod Crane originally come from?

                              Extra difficult: The horseback climax most likely takes place on a certain road....a road that is far more famous several miles to the south than it is in Sleepy Hollow.

                              Name that road?
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