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  • Trip Report Malin's WDW Trip Report 16th to 26th of November

    Day 1 Arrival
    16th of November 2008

    We left Gatwick Airport on the fully booked Virgin Atlantic flight to Orlando Florida. Flight time was a short 8 hrs and 50 mins.

    Upon arriving at Orlando in the Afternoon, it took another 15 minutes to leave the plane due to how slow people in the front are at walking off a plane. Thank god there was no emergency as we would of never all made it of the plane in quick time. Once leaving the plane I quickly passed by all the people that held me up previously and took my line at US Immigration. Trust me to pick the one line and the one person that was not only slow but did everything by the book. After seeing people who had boarded other lines after me already though and constantly seeing my lugage spin round and around I decided to join another line with a shorter wait and was though in quick time, but I think it was very poor that the whole leaving the plane and entering though US Immigration process took an entire hour. It also wouldn't hurt for some of these people to smile after all I will be spending money which will help benefit the State of Florida, how about a warmer welcome.

    After collecting my lugage and clearing customs I was asked to put my case on another belt which would transfer it straight over to the other side of the Airport while I take a tram over. If I had known I would be waiting another 30 mins for my lugage to turn up I would have instead just taken it with me.

    Meeting up with a rep I was transfered over to a Mears driver who helped load my lugage. A few other people were going to be riding with us, which was alright but I had a ticket already for Mickey's Christmas Party at the MK and did not want to be late, but luckily the driver was dropping me of at Disney's Pop Century first.

    After tipping the driver I walked though the entrance to the Pop Century with Castmembers greeting me and welcoming me home. Towards the lobby which was rather impressive to look at, I spotted what seem like about 20 Castmembers in a group just talking and standing around with nothing to do. I was directed to reception and was checked in by a guy called Michael who was difficult to understand and not exactly full of excitment. After a few minutes of handing over my details I was given a map of the Hotel complex and shown my room, which would be in the Baloo buiding. Very easy building to find really as who could miss a 4 story high Baloo. Room was facing a lake offering some very nice views.

    After spending a few minutes getting ready I was out the door down towards the buses. A few people were already in line waiting for a Magic Kingdom bus. I estimate it took about 15 minutes to turn up and the line behind me had already filled up passed the barriers. Also not everyone was able to get on, and so I'm sure some would of probarely had to wait another 15 - 20 minutes. This just proves how badly built WDW really is with everything so spaced out and it feels like you spend half your time either in line for a bus or on a bus packed in like a sardine. After 17 minutes on the bus we arrived at the gates to the Magic Kingdom, which makes a change to usually being dropped off at the Ticket and Transportation Centre, this was the first pro to staying on site as a guest.

    Reaching the turnstiles I found absolute mayhem. Guest in front of me had asked a CastMember quite clearly if there could just go in and have a look, as there had tickets to the event on Wednesday, to which he said yes. I really don't no who was more stupid the CastMember for saying yes or the Guest for thinking he could go into a ticketed event to just look around. But he was denied access as I just walked passed laughing at how the incident could of been avoided had the CastMember been bother to listen to the guest properely, but this is WDW and no one cares what the guest has to say unless there are spending money, a fact I would encounter many times on my trip.

    Crossing the turnstlies I had to wait in a mass of people who had formed waiting to collect there wrist bands. Its times like this where you notice just how annoying guest at WDW can be, as no one bothers to keep there groups together. So people were being called from the back to come forward.

    I was impressed with all the lightening done for tonights event, especially with the Castle which was a jaw dropping moment. Not only did the lights look beautiful on the castle but the regular Castle lighting display gave it a extra wow moment. One minute it would be blue, next purple and than pink.

    I decided to catch the first showing of Celebrate the Season, and took a spot in front of the castle. There appears to be a bit of confusion also on if you stand or sit, during this show as the Castmember says no rules are in place but some guest were screaming for others to sit down during the show, but in another showing everyone stood, so I'd be interested to know what the official rules regarding this are!

    While waiting for the show to start a Castmember came along and insisted on seeing everyones wrist band, until he spotted what appeared to be two Imagineers in the front row and made a quick dash to them forgetting to check everyone else band, so he could do some sucking up to these two men.

    Celebrate the Season I thought from a first time viewing, was a very cute character show, with plenty of performers and characters. Top marks on this as I enjoyed it a lot.

    Than came my first encounter but not the last on how out of touch operations are at WDW, as I tried to leave the Castle fourcourt area with the Parade minutes to go and people blocking the path's. After fighting my way though the crowd I walked over to the Haunted Mansion to check it out after its refurbishment. It was great to see everything on this attraction working and in great condition, also the new effects were ok, but during the floating Leota effect you can clearly see the wires.

    I than walked over to Fantasyland and Tomorrowland soaking up the atsmophere and seeing what was available. Its A Small Would was opened so I decided to do that one next. Wow I was not aware just how little leg room is given when given the front row on this attraction, it actually made for a uncomfortable journey. Good ride with nothing really looking to badly neglected, but the attraction could do with a bit of a clean up in the docking area on your journey back in as it was covered in dust.

    I had heard about the free hot chocolate and cookies which sadly seems to be a real highlight for many guest when I over heard some telling other guest about the party's later during the trip. The use of attractions and free hot chocolate and cookies were always mention while the fireworks and other entertainment which I personally enjoyed didn't get talked about. Which made me think why do Disney bother with this sort of form of entertainement when a small minority of people don't apreciate it. Why not just roll out free cookies every night.

    As for the cookies I found them to be very sweet, for my liking but it was a nice added treat for the price. I took my spot along Main Street for the Fireworks and I had the unfortunate pleasure of standing next to a couple who are the sort of guest that will talk not only out loud, but though out the entire show. What was even more comical was this couple than had a full scale dispute at the end because she had not bothered to look at the final shells exploding. Two very annoying and stupid people and there are well suited together, and I was glad to see the back of them.

    Made time to check out POTC, and was disapointed to find the Davy Jones effect not working. You could hear him and see the smoke screen, but sadly no image, this effect remained broken during my whole trip.

    Made my way over to Main Street to catch a spot for the next parade. Nice parade but most of the floats I have seen before in other parades the park has done.

    Feeling exhausted I left the park and ran to catch the next bus which was just arriving. The Bus Driver on the journey back was great fun cracking jokes and getting everyone to sing along. He was one of the very few that not only enjoyed his job but was also good at it. Sadly finding more CastMembers like him was a much more difficult task which I will detail more later on, but for now this is the end of day one...
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    Re: Malin's WDW Trip Report 16th to 26th of November

    I decided to catch the first showing of Celebrate the Season, and took a spot in front of the castle. There appears to be a bit of confusion also on if you stand or sit, during this show as the Castmember says no rules are in place but some guest were screaming for others to sit down during the show, but in another showing everyone stood, so I'd be interested to know what the official rules regarding this are!
    There are no official rules regarding this. The people yelling to sit down were just those who believe its common etiquette to not block the views of those behind you.

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      Re: Malin's WDW Trip Report 16th to 26th of November

      Wow, sounds like you had a horrible time.

      -dave
      "I'm gonna build my own amusement park. But with gambling and hookers!" - Bender
      "You should never underestimate the predictability of stupidity." - Bullet Tooth Tony

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        Re: Malin's WDW Trip Report 16th to 26th of November

        There are no official rules regarding this. The people yelling to sit down were just those who believe its common etiquette to not block the views of those behind you.
        Interesting but the whole incident could easily be avoided if WDW did enforce some rules instead of allowing it to be a free for all. DLR, TDR, DLRP and HKDL all have better systems in place, and this is yet another reason why WDW is such a shambles.

        Wow, sounds like you had a horrible time.
        It certainly wasn't a horrible time but I did witness a lot of rude behaviour and issues I want to talk about.
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          Re: Malin's WDW Trip Report 16th to 26th of November

          Originally posted by Malin View Post
          Interesting but the whole incident could easily be avoided if WDW did enforce some rules instead of allowing it to be a free for all. DLR, TDR, DLRP and HKDL all have better systems in place, and this is yet another reason why WDW is such a shambles.

          It certainly wasn't a horrible time but I did witness a lot of rude behaviour and issues I want to talk about.
          TDR me ASAP. My wife and I used to love going to WDW. Heck, my sister and her husband met there during the college program and live 30 minutes from the park now. But it is stuff like Malin talks about that turns me off to WDW. I love the parks and the attractions but the majority people (or probably more appropriately the vocal minority of people) that go there drive me nuts! I don't want to bash WDW because it is still a top of the line resort and a place which holds great memories but the concerns Malin stated tend to keep us from going there and going to Disneyland or Tokyo Disney Resort instead.

          By the way... great report and I hope there are some pictures too.

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            Re: Malin's WDW Trip Report 16th to 26th of November

            Originally posted by Phonedave View Post
            Wow, sounds like you had a horrible time.

            -dave
            It sounds very much like my last trip to WDW, although I am keen to read more. I know it is unlikely I will ever go back because WDW quality and people suck compared to the other Disney resorts around the globe.
            Let's put the Walt back in Disney!




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              Re: Malin's WDW Trip Report 16th to 26th of November

              Originally posted by davewasbaloo View Post
              It sounds very much like my last trip to WDW, although I am keen to read more. I know it is unlikely I will ever go back because WDW quality and people suck compared to the other Disney resorts around the globe.
              Your tone and arrogance absolutely disgusts me. Not for this post, but for the majority of your posts on this site, as well as on others.
              Only once have I been enraged by something that I read on a message board in the past. I promised that I wouldn't do so again, but I am having difficulty adhering to that promise.
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              Originally posted by Phonedave
              Well, if your parents can't teach you, maybe you can learn from a taser.

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                Re: Malin's WDW Trip Report 16th to 26th of November

                Originally posted by WDW Monorail View Post
                Your tone and arrogance absolutely disgusts me. Not for this post, but for the majority of your posts on this site, as well as on others.
                Only once have I been enraged by something that I read on a message board in the past. I promised that I wouldn't do so again, but I am having difficulty adhering to that promise.
                Your choice, but I don't understand how "rage" could emenate from my post. Especially as I said "comparitively". Compared to Walmart or McD's WDW is great. But they charge lux prices for non lux amenities. It annoys me greatly as Disney is supposed to stand for quality. I really want that to return.
                Let's put the Walt back in Disney!




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                  Re: Malin's WDW Trip Report 16th to 26th of November

                  TDR me ASAP. My wife and I used to love going to WDW. Heck, my sister and her husband met there during the college program and live 30 minutes from the park now. But it is stuff like Malin talks about that turns me off to WDW. I love the parks and the attractions but the majority people (or probably more appropriately the vocal minority of people) that go there drive me nuts! I don't want to bash WDW because it is still a top of the line resort and a place which holds great memories but the concerns Malin stated tend to keep us from going there and going to Disneyland or Tokyo Disney Resort instead.
                  It sounds very much like my last trip to WDW, although I am keen to read more. I know it is unlikely I will ever go back because WDW quality and people suck compared to the other Disney resorts around the globe.
                  What is interesting about the people who agree with me, is that both are not ex employees of WDW, or have any other axe to grind with the Florida Resort. These are people who like me have a normal life, and enjoy visiting the Disney parks on a regular basis. But its thanks to the ways WDW has operated its parks, and the crowd it attracts, that we are now all looking else where for our Disney fix.

                  By the way... great report and I hope there are some pictures too.
                  Yes I hope to have some pictures up soon
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                    Re: Malin's WDW Trip Report 16th to 26th of November

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                      Re: Malin's WDW Trip Report 16th to 26th of November

                      Hmm, I find with traveling generally you have to be able to deal with annoying people and crowds without allowing yourself to get too frustrated and angry. If you allow all the annoying habits you're bound to encounter in a massive tourist resort like WDW get to you then WDW is probably just not somewhere you're ever going to enjoy.

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                        Re: Malin's WDW Trip Report 16th to 26th of November

                        You say that but I used to love WDW, and when I last visited in Jan 06 none of these problems were evident, except for the CastMembers. Now with Disney desperate for growth it is accomendating all sorts of low lifes. These people don't apreciate the quality and standard so many of us have enjoyed over the years and have very little respect for the other people around them. But if WDW continues to attract this low level of Guest, than I will be keeping away.

                        If you allow all the annoying habits you're bound to encounter in a massive tourist resort like WDW get to you then WDW is probably just not somewhere you're ever going to enjoy.
                        On a recent day trip to Disneyland Resort Paris when the park was filled to capacity at 85,000, I never once encountered Guest with any annoying habits, that match what I found at WDW, so I dispute that claim.

                        And if WDW continues to allow this standard of Guest inside, as well as offering poor customer service from its own CastMembers, than I will be more than happy to visit DLR, DLRP, TDR and HKDL instead.
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                        • #13
                          Re: Malin's WDW Trip Report 16th to 26th of November

                          Originally posted by Malin View Post
                          On a recent day trip to Disneyland Resort Paris when the park was filled to capacity at 85,000, I never once encountered Guest with any annoying habits, that match what I found at WDW, so I dispute that claim.

                          And if WDW continues to allow this standard of Guest inside, as well as offering poor customer service from its own CastMembers, than I will be more than happy to visit DLR, DLRP, TDR and HKDL instead.
                          You can't really think that this is because DLRP attracts only a perfectly behaved high-class clientele, though, right? I visited DLP on a less crowded day and, while people were generally well-behaved, I did witness annoying behaviour like people trying to push into lines and downright dangerous behaviour like people throwing "slippery when wet" cones from a drawbridge on Adventure Isle down onto the paths below such that they would have done a fair bit of damage to anyone they fell on. I think we've all seen other posters make similar comments about the "standard of guests" at DLP in reference to people littering, smoking and climbing over barriers to stand in flowerbeds, etc. It's the luck of the draw in most cases as to whether you encounter much or any of this kind of behaviour.

                          I would say this goes for traveling generally, though. I'm from Australia but am living in Mexico City right now and I've had to learn to cope with all the habits of people in crowded environments around me that I would normally find irritating. Some of it is due to a cultural difference, some is due to how crowded certain places are and some of it is purely down to the people you happen to encounter. I think that's probably true at WDW too, and I must admit that I find this kind of elitist attitude that says Disney should bar the common folk from entering kind of off-putting.

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                            Re: Malin's WDW Trip Report 16th to 26th of November

                            Originally posted by Malin View Post
                            Interesting but the whole incident could easily be avoided if WDW did enforce some rules instead of allowing it to be a free for all. DLR, TDR, DLRP and HKDL all have better systems in place, and this is yet another reason why WDW is such a shambles.
                            Careful Malin... you sound just like TDLFAN. But then again.. WDW is no TDR, is it?

                            Originally posted by Kustomboy
                            TDR me ASAP.
                            Originally posted by Davewasbaloo
                            It sounds very much like my last trip to WDW, although I am keen to read more. I know it is unlikely I will ever go back because WDW quality and people suck compared to the other Disney resorts around the globe
                            Originally posted by Malin
                            You say that but I used to love WDW, and when I last visited in Jan 06 none of these problems were evident, except for the CastMembers. Now with Disney desperate for growth it is accomendating all sorts of low lifes. These people don't apreciate the quality and standard so many of us have enjoyed over the years and have very little respect for the other people around them. But if WDW continues to attract this low level of Guest, than I will be keeping away.
                            And if WDW continues to allow this standard of Guest inside, as well as offering poor customer service from its own CastMembers, than I will be more than happy to visit DLR, DLRP, TDR and HKDL instead.
                            Gee... all this negativity about WDW...and praise for the international parks. Where have I heard/read this before? Hmmm? But hey, don't mind me. Carry on. The truth will prevail... as long as it's not me bringing it forth and center. You also didn't hear it from me that DLP's guests can also be among the most inconsiderate guests at any Disney park, worst that WDW's most times.

                            Originally posted by WDW Monorail
                            Your tone and arrogance absolutely disgusts me. Not for this post, but for the majority of your posts on this site, as well as on others.
                            Only once have I been enraged by something that I read on a message board in the past. I promised that I wouldn't do so again, but I am having difficulty adhering to that promise.
                            This response can only come from a current CM, and if the glass slipper fits, wear it. However, if you somehow can provide better examples of your quality CM work ethics, then state them, because right now... your "rage" only makes you look more guilty of what davewasbaloo is refering about. This is hardly the place to make excuses for WDW's expansive drop in quality and sticking up for your employer (the mouse) will not fly unless you can provide more positive examples or at least, reasons, that justify what's going on at WDW now a days.

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                              Re: Malin's WDW Trip Report 16th to 26th of November

                              You can't really think that this is because DLRP attracts only a perfectly behaved high-class clientele, though, right?
                              Not at all and the Guest behaviour of Guest at DLRP has been well documented in the past. But despite the small incidents that I have personally witnessed like pushing or ignoring the smoking ban, I did not once fear having to look both ways in case I was run over by a stroller, see Guest make snide comments to CastMembers for only doing there jobs, or spot kids up to no good, while the parent's stood by and did nothing.

                              I would say this goes for traveling generally, though. I'm from Australia but am living in Mexico City right now and I've had to learn to cope with all the habits of people in crowded environments around me that I would normally find irritating.
                              Annoying habits I can deal with and I have over the years visited many places on vacation that could be considered crowded environments, but what really annoys me about the Guest at WDW are not the habits but the general attitude these people have.

                              and I must admit that I find this kind of elitist attitude that says Disney should bar the common folk from entering kind of off-putting.
                              I would be careful here as your putting words into my mouth here, I have not once said WDW should bar anyone, all I said was if WDW continue to attract these people I will be keeping away.
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