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    Thank you for this great trip report. I don't quite agree with all your statements, especially regarding the show "Moteur, Action Stuntshow Spectacular!", which is a great show IMO. However, I've seen it many times, and I found the quality of the show is not always the same. You were probably on a 'bad' day.
    And it's a real shame you missed Cinémagique, as it's probably the most magical and Disneyish attraction of the park... I'm also a huge fan of Animagique (Ô the song: la la la lalala la la la... Animagiqe c'est magnifique!), but it's just me... )

    Can't wait to read the second part of you TR.


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      Re: Disneyland Paris Resort TR Part One: Icky Studios Paris

      Thanks for your very interesting report. I TOTALLY THOROUGHLY COMPLETELY agree with your utter disgust for WDS. I try to visit DLRP at least once a year and since WDS opened we visited it just once and left the park desperately longing for a real theme park worth the ticket.

      I had much more fun reading your report than being in that park, weird isn't it?

      What can I say? Disney reserved us European the all-time best (DLP) and the all-time worst (WDS).

      I also think the whole theme of WDS is deeply flawed (a "real studios") and it was chosen just because it is just so much cheaper to buy real props than imagineering something. And if you deal with the idea of a real studios how can you justify attractions like TOT? If you say it's not a real tower but just a set, there's no illusion left; if you say it'a real building, everybody will wonder why it popped right in the middle of a real studio.

      Looking forward to hear more from you.
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      2007: World of Disney New York City
      2006 Disneyland Resort Paris
      1992: Euro Disney Resort
      2005: Tokyo Disney Resort
      1998-2005: Disneyland Paris
      1997: Walt Disney World
      1993: Disneyland

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      • #4
        Re: Disneyland Paris Resort TR Part One: Icky Studios Paris

        Wow. Very suprising review of the Hotel. In a good way though.

        Skippng the rest, I guess you didn't like the park.

        :blink: :lol::roll:

        HAHAHAHAHA. That is awesome. Sounds like the usual French CM American tourists seem to always run into.
        :lol:

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          We Play Rock and Roll

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            Re: Disneyland Paris Resort TR Part One: Icky Studios Paris

            Does anyone know if Disney is planning to do anything to fix the second gate in Paris?

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              Re: Disneyland Paris Resort TR Part One: Icky Studios Paris

              Originally posted by PragmaticIdealist
              Does anyone know if Disney is planning to do anything to fix the second gate in Paris?
              Tower of Terror and Toon Studios and that's it. I strongly doubt this will add any kind of magic to that park thus making it a one-day park. To me a park is a one-day experience because you want to stay there and soak the atmosphere at least for a full day, not because you need 10 hours to do all the rides. Sorry, I know there are some who actually like that park, but I think it will seriously harm the already not so encouraging financial stability of the whole resort and steal money for the only park who actually deserve it, that is DLP.
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              2007: World of Disney New York City
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              1992: Euro Disney Resort
              2005: Tokyo Disney Resort
              1998-2005: Disneyland Paris
              1997: Walt Disney World
              1993: Disneyland

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                Re: Disneyland Paris Resort TR Part One: Icky Studios Paris

                [quote=massimo]Tower of Terror and Toon Studios and that's it.[quote]

                With respect, Disney do have bigger plans for the park, but it depends entirely on how well the forthcoming attractions perform. There are already plans to refurbish the Tram Tour, with an entirely new route, more and bigger sets, and a few surprises not found in the Florida version. It could yet become an exciting attraction! (I never thought I'd ever say that...) And there's another E-ticket on the cards for the Production Courtyard...

                Anyway, thanks for the trip report Kayoss. Sorry to hear you had such a dismal day at the Studios park. If you ever return, rest safe in the knowledge that the Disney Channel tour doesn't last any longer than ten minutes. Ten mind numbing, intellectually insulting minutes, of course.
                Originally posted by fizzog
                Soundtracker you cheeky chipmunk

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                  Re: Disneyland Paris Resort TR Part One: Icky Studios Paris

                  Originally posted by soundtracker
                  With respect, Disney do have bigger plans for the park, but it depends entirely on how well the forthcoming attractions perform.
                  Well that would be very nice! Do you know anything more about those plans? I would love to hear some more about it. I only meant that's what we are going to have so far. And, but that's a personal thought of course, I think WDS must go into some radical makeover before becoming a real Disney theme park. One or two attractions will not change the overall lacking experience. DLP was a wonderful park even before Space Mountain was built, WDS will still be a mediocre park even with a huge TOT in it.
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                  2007: World of Disney New York City
                  2006 Disneyland Resort Paris
                  1992: Euro Disney Resort
                  2005: Tokyo Disney Resort
                  1998-2005: Disneyland Paris
                  1997: Walt Disney World
                  1993: Disneyland

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                    Re: Disneyland Paris Resort TR Part One: Icky Studios Paris

                    That's trip report is fully and trully what i though when i went to that Park the very first day of it's operation in February 2002 and that's still what i think after almost 5 Years .
                    HKDL : Done !!!

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                      Re: Disneyland Paris Resort TR Part One: Icky Studios Paris

                      Originally posted by massimo
                      Well that would be very nice! Do you know anything more about those plans? WDS will still be a mediocre park even with a huge TOT in it.
                      Originally posted by fizzog
                      Soundtracker you cheeky chipmunk

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                        Re: Disneyland Paris Resort TR Part One: Icky Studios Paris

                        Originally posted by soundtracker
                        I've spoken to the person who slipped me the plan, and it seems that Disney want to stick with as many of the ideas as they can. So expect the boulevard and street sets to appear before too long, along with the Production Courtyard's E-ticket.
                        This is interesting I never heard that one before...and honestly I have to wonder...what E-Ticket could possibly fit between Cinemagic and TV sets?

                        Another thing about that plan that confuses me...the Tram Tour station is to the left of the new city streets? So where does it cross everything to get to Catastrophe Canyon on the right of where the streets would be??

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                          Re: Disneyland Paris Resort TR Part One: Icky Studios Paris

                          TDLFAN asked me a bunch of questions in another forum, and I answered them in such a nauseatingly detailed way, I thought I'd post it here too, seeing that I just spent an hour typing it (that's what you get when your job is a writer and you answer a message board question while your brain is in the middle of working on a project in 'full writer's mode'). It also follows very closely to the 'icky studios paris' subject header....


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                          <<<Kayoss.. Very interesting perspective about WDSP and DLRP in particular. Thank you for taking the time to post on this. I really enjoyed it.

                          Now on to some things you said that I feel like commenting on...>>
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                          No problem, I thought I had such a surreal experience at Disney Studios Paris that I felt the need to get that experience out. It felt good venting…. Even to a forum.


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                          You *should* make the trek to HK. Don't do it for the park, but do it to see one of this World's most spectacular cities..that now happen to have an added incentive with a new DL park on it's shores. HKDL is a little park and ot much is to be done there, but trust me... it's still a pretty decent little park in a beautiful setting. This park offers the promise of bigger and better things and it's off to a promising start. It can only get better. Just don't visit during New Year holidays... Too crowded.
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                          I’ve always wanted to visit China (especially to ride the world’s only operating Magliv train…) and I’ll visit Hong Kong Disneyland as soon as they add some unique attractions (like the rumored Pirates of the Caribbean with the Splash Mountain-like ‘skull mountain drop’), but until then I’d rather visit TDL to get my foreign Disney fix.


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                          This would be my forth Disney resort, having been a local at Disneyland Resort Anaheim, then visiting Tokyo, and finally Florida (considerably underwhelming after following Tokyo.)<<

                          Careful... Singing the praises of TDR over lacking WDW can get you a lot of enemies on these boards... You don't want to be hated like me now, do you?? ;P
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                          Well, I think internet message boards in general are interesting because you can read so many different points of view on the same subject. No one’s opinions should stop someone from making their own. Personally, I felt that the Tokyo Disney Resort was overall a much better value and experience then Walt Disney World, despite having only 2 parks vs. Disney World’s 4 parks, 2 water parks, and extensive recreation options. They are both VERY different experiences, certainly, but Tokyo’s parks combined just exude quality, and the service you get from the outstanding Japanese folks is just unbeatable anywhere. This plays a big factor. Walt Disney World has Epcot, which even though it’s much changed, is still one of my favorite Disney parks. But the other three (ESPECIALLY Magic Kingdom) are severely lacking with the exceptions of a handful of interesting attractions scattered around each. The most amazing thing when comparing these two resorts, is that, even with airfare and staying at the MiraCosta, a week trip to Tokyo Disney Resort is considerably cheaper then a week trip to Walt Disney World (probably because our dollar is stronger against the yen, but mainly because the food costs are not nearly as gouged in Japan as the US parks). This is the main reason I choose to go to Tokyo Disney Resort much more frequently over Walt Disney World… I just can’t bring myself to pay more money for, ultimately, a less satisfying and inferior product.

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                          Not sure that DLP being to the levels of the American parks to be a good thing, but glad to know you feel DLP and WDSP was clean enough to merit a positive comment.. My experiences there in regards to cleanliness and maintenance have been hit or miss, with 'miss' being business as usual. But then again... I hold every Disney resort to TDR's insane standards, like WDW and DL used to be..say.. 15 yrs ago?
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                          WDW is definitely dirtier then the Disneyland Resort. And I’d say Paris is just a bit more dirty then Disneyland Resort, but much cleaner then WDW. There were definitely parts of Disneyland Paris that needed a lot of attention (most severely being Alice’s Curious Labyrinth which had almost every interactive figure under rehab/construction/disrepair yet remained open for guests…. Ick) but overall it was clean, painted, and generally lovely.


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                          >> I understand how you feel about the scheduling of these shows, and while "Animagique" is garbage, "Cinemagique" which is just a film with very minimal special effects..is one of those rare film attractions that deliver a solid storyline with an interesting premise... Please make a point of seeing this little film next time you go to WDSP..if there is another time.
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                          I have calmed down since I wrote Pt. 1 of my TR, and despite the bad experience I had at the studios park (as well as an even WORSE CM experience I had at Disneyland Paris park, which I’ll get to later) I probably will still go back to Paris, despite the CM’s. Why? Because Disneyland Paris park is one of the most beautiful Disney parks in the world, and I love unique the spins the Imagineers did on several of the classics. Why should I suffer by denying myself their wonderful creations, just because it happens to be located in France with the nastiest CMs alive, and their Blue Lagoon restaurant literally crawling with rats? (I lost my appetite, there was no refund, three parties left like us, the CMs were fully aware of it, and you bet I have photos.) When I do finally return, which I’m sure will be several years from now, I will make sure to check out at least these two shows (and hopefully, by then, Toon Studios)


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                          >>Also, on a technical note, because I’ve never seen this mentioned anywhere, the ‘collapsing space shuttle’ effects, nearly all of them (minus the fireball) is EXACTLY the same design as the in-cabin effects on the Tokyo DisneySea attraction “Storm Rider”.<<
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                          Interesting... I never made a connection on this... maybe because I have only visited Armagedon twice: first time I went to WDSP and the first time I took G-Fan with me to DLRP.
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                          I’m a geek that way, always looking at possible ways finished, built attractions use elements of previous attractions. It’s just guessing, but I really do think that Armageddon was originally supposed to be a re-themed “Storm Rider”, and they just decided on doing the collapsing room bit. Like the feeling you got on “Rocket Rods” that there was just something there that was unfinished. It wasn’t until I rode Test Track later that I saw what it was. This time, I experienced the reverse, having been on Storm Rider first…


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                          >>THEY COULDN’T EVEN DO THE DRAGON? <<

                          Same sentiments of being cheated I had the first time I rode this turkey tram tour.. makes you wish you were watching TDS' BraviSEAmo! doesn't it??
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                          Astonishingly enough, I still haven’t seen BraviSEAmo. Yes folks, that’s how bad I am with making shows when I’m on vacation. I truly like to go at my own pace, soak in the atmosphere, and re-ride every attraction until I can mentally deconstruct how each of them work. As a result, shows always get pushed to the back burner. I caught “Illuminations” at Epcot purely by good timing (and I’m so glad I did), but seriously haven’t seen even ONE other scheduled show in all of my visits to Walt Disney World because, quite simply, I don’t go to theme parks for the shows.

                          But when something is presented like “Mickey’s Philharmagic”, that runs all day, I’ll go check it out when I’m in the area. Which brings a VERY interesting question to mind…. What makes Cinemagique and Anamagique any different then Mickey’s Philharmagic as far as operation? Isn’t it just a movie? If there’s actors involved at parts… well… Muppets 3D at MGM and DCA uses them and still runs them all day, as does T2:3D at the universal parks. Why would a movie attraction need individual showtimes? It just strikes me as really odd if they’re truly “THE” attractions to see at Disney Studios. Hence my harsh use of the word ‘contempt’, when I saw how they schedule the showtimes. Like “Mystic Rhythms”, I put both attractions in the back of my head, and walked past the entrances to find I had always either just missed a performance, or had a significant wait until the next one… and with a beautiful park like Disneyland Paris to explore, with so many unique attractions to re-ride, it pained me (with the limited time I had in the resort) to hang around waiting for a show. Probably because when I was little, I always had to see the shows at Disneyland with my mom, and was always itching to get back on the rides. Now that I’m grown up and can see and do what I want, I still have the same ‘gotta ride that again’ feeling when I go to the parks.

                          That said, I’m obviously cheating myself out of some great attractions by not making time for the shows. BraviSEAmo and Mystic Rhythms are way up on my priority list when I head to TDR next month in time to catch my beloved Castle Mystery Tour before it’s unjust demise. And next time I’m at MGM, I will make it a point to see their version of Fantasmic, because I’m curious of seeing the differences between Disneyland’s and theirs first-hand.


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                          >>I literally screamed, escaped her grasp and darted to the exit. She yelled ‘I am calling security’. She didn’t need to… I was already leaving.<<
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                          The Disney difference in France.. These CMs haven't got a clue. But I could tell you about the screaming match I had to endure with a latin-New Yorker CM in the MK's Pooh Ride... But the CM's pulled you by the arm... I would have filed a complain wih Guests Services and the police for assault!
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                          Yes, but then that would be taking MORE time away from going back to Disneyland Paris park (which I did) and re-riding Pirates and Phantom Manor until my eyes bleed. To each his own, but my time is the most important thing to me.


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                          >>no guest deserves to be yelled at, especially when I was neither making a scene<<

                          I agree, but when they hire trash, you get treated like such.. You should have been there to see how I was screamed at by that Pooh CM in front of dozens of guests...
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                          Oh do tell. I found, much like you, that the most unruly CMs seem to be in the Florida and Paris parks. But nothing, and I mean NOTHING came close to the unimaginably rude way the Paris CMs treated us. With all the glowing reviews of the ‘magic’ of Paris, I am truly saddened to have to report this one….

                          I was saving this for Pt. 2, but I’ll tell it now because it fits with the discussion, and I really want to focus on the positive things in my next report. On our first day, there was a certain particularly nasty CM me and my partner encountered while riding the beautiful Disneyland Paris railroad. To make a long story short, we were both exhausted (and freezing) after spending nearly 8 hours in the park. So, like any Disney park pros, we hopped on the train and rode it around a couple cycles. We were in one of the trains that had two rows of bench seating, and were sitting in the back row, all the way towards the end of one of the cabs. Again, Disneyland Paris was almost dead, and there were only 8 or so other people sitting around us in our cab, with seas of open seats for any new passengers. I turned around to lean back on the back of the cab part, putting my legs over my partner to stretch them out, hoping to get a brief little nap in to recharge my batteries. This worked for quite a few trips around the park, and eventually, my partner dozed off too (even though he was sitting up!). Happy and peaceful, we were awoke minutes later by a rotating CM happened to hop on to our cab and yell at us to wake up. We were so sleepy, it took us a while to come to, and by this time I must admit I was a little confused as to why we were being yelled at. Probably because, again, it was in French. He then began to yell broken English at us. I didn’t quite understand what the problem was. After all, the park wasn’t due to close for another 4 hours, and certainly there wasn’t a rule where you had to get off the train after a circuit. I looked around to see if the problem could be that my half-laying down position (which probably took the length of a single passenger’s seat) could be the culprit, but no…. the train was nearly empty. Finally, he stuttered out something that referred to me not being able to sit with my head against the side of the cab, and that I would have to sit straight, upright, on the bench. I still wasn’t exactly sure what he meant, so I sat up more, thinking it was because I was half slid down. It was then when he DEMONSTRATED how I should sit, by sitting down himself, in our row, straightening his back against the bench seat, got up then pointed to the seat, motioning for me to copy him. I said, “Okay, fine… you don’t have to yell.” And proceeded to scoot up, having to take the shopping bags piled on my legs and partner, and move them safely to the ground as I pulled myself up and moved into ‘proper position’. Apparently, this wasn’t fast enough since he starting yelling “move! NOW! Sit right! NOW! F***ing IMBECILE! You move NOW, sit right or OFF OF MY TRAIN” Yes, that’s right… not only was I being yelled at for my horrific behavior of leaning, but was apparently an imbecile. Not only a regular imbecile, mind you, but a FU**ING imbecile. He yelled this to us in plain sight (and ears) of several small children and their families who believe me, were equally horrified. One little girl actually started to cry. That’s when my partner snapped, yelling at the guy “Hey, I don’t know what your problem is, but don’t bring it here. There’s no reason to treat people this way. And watch your mouth in front of children.” This infuriated him, and he began to yell in French with the occasional “don’t tell me how to do my job” type of thing popping up in English. The train come to the next stop (in Frontierland), and my partner lept to his feet and went face-to-face with this guy who was still yelling. I cringed ‘cause I really thought my partner was going to punch him in the face, so I saved it by yelling back “Just stop, let the guy have his fantasy of being lord of the trains.” The CM stopped yelling and looked at me strange. Then I said to his face “After all, being conductor of a fake railroad in a theme park is the highest achievement you’re ever going to have in life. So, hats off to you sir, congratulations!” Then, looking at the kids, I said to them “Don’t you want to grow up and be just like the train guy?” The kids (and parents) all started laughing hysterically, and the CM ran off. Needless to say, our next stop was the guest relations office, where my partner gave a full report. We rode the railroad later in our trip, and guess what? We never saw that guy again. By FAR, the most insane thing I’ve ever experienced at a Disney park. In Tokyo, they’ll fire CMs for putting their hands in their pockets. Can you even IMAGINE what the Japanese reaction would be to an incident like this? And even with our complaint, they offered nothing as far as making up for this outrageous behavior. I am never one to ask for freebies, but the fact that they didn’t even OFF any condolences (besides apologies) in the form of a simple meal voucher or something similar, shows how completely different and out-of-touch the French staff is from the “Disney Experience”. Surely in ANY of the American parks, more would’ve been done as an apology. My partner wanted to leave after the first day because of this, and I didn’t even have the heart to tell him that they also should’ve done something special for us after being treated that way. I just made up some excuse for their behavior being related to low morale and low wages, mainly because I’m a diehard who didn’t want to leave the resort after a day. (Hell, I’d probably stay during a riot…) It’s still very very unfortunate that my partner (who is very new to the theme park scene) had to experience this guy on the very first day of our trip thereby placing a ‘scar’ of sorts on any enthusiasm on his part to accompany me to future theme park excursions. “Really” I’ve told him “Tokyo is just completely different… you’ll see.” He doesn’t seem to believe me, and I hope (after this) I’ll have the chance to prove that this was an exception, and not the rule.


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                          >> And what trip report would be complete without video and photos?<<
                          I'll be looking forward to that and your reviews and comparisons on the rides versus the other parks.. and I hope Bloona tunes in as well.. Hehehe!!
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                          Bloona tunes? This a reference I don’t know?

                          I’ve been slammed with work, so I haven’t had the time to finish pt 2 quite yet, with my full essay-like Disneyland Paris park TR and it’s accompanying photo and video website (literally over 500 photos to edit and sort…..) but I think it will be worth the wait. My main focus will be finally being able to point out the differences in all of the dark rides and cloned attractions between the four main resorts, as well as my personal opinions as to which versions are best.

                          In fact, here’s a little preview: I was amazed that, despite all the hype, I didn’t find Paris’ Peter Pan to be, as a whole, better then Disneyland’s. Although Paris’ version is the newests, and boasts several newly added effects (such as steam coming out of that first chimney you fly over in the loading area and the projection of peter’s shadow in Wendy’s room as you ‘take off’), I was amazed to discover that the “starfield over neverland” sequence uses a combination of static, non-twinkling fibre optics and plain white LEDs, vs. Disneyland’s sea of shimmering (and, most importantly, twinkling) fibre optics. Because this single sequence is the most emotionally stirring to me in the ride (and completely absent from the Tokyo and Florida versions) I can’t rate it the highest of the four, although it certainly comes in a close second. There’s something unbelievably magical about the way Disneyland’s starfield room literally shimmers in hundreds of sparkling, magical stars that has never been recaptured in the clones. Since they even embedded sparkling fibre optics into the concrete columns of the “Sleeping Beauty Stained Glass Walkthough” in Disneyland Paris’ castle, it’s especially surprising (and puzzling) why they didn’t go all-out with the higher-end star effects in Paris’ Peter Pan. Surely, if this one show room was upgraded to Disneyland’s style, I would rate Paris’ version the best of the four by far, as it is an interesting combination of the Florida and Tokyo version’s more oversized show scenes and ride vehicles, combined with some of the more intimate touches of Disneyland’s (kicked up a notch or two in overall sleekness…). I’ll be curious to see if the rumored Hong Kong version ends up being the one that will incorporate the best features of every version and end up being the best.


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                          Anyways... final recommendations... If you hated the Auto stunt show...stay clear of the MGM version which is just basically the same as WDSP... And.. about the Santa Fe, I stayed there as well in Nov 1992 when the place was brand new and they used to charge about $150 a night. Not sure what they charge now... But I did enjoy it back then, the rooms were comfy and also because all of the fountains and rivers among the gardens were operational and gave the hotel an animated and enjoyable feel... However, I have to say that the last few times I have made my visit to the Santa Fe, I have been disappointed with how neglected it looked.. I sure hope this has changed by now based on your glowing review.

                          Anyways.. Thanks for posting your views on this.
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                          I’m just not that big a fan of ‘audience interactive’ shows. It creeps me out and makes me feel all ‘themeparky’ (for the lack of a better word.) Disney parks work best when they really transport you into their own little world, not when they treat you like a tourist (which is a negative trend I’ve seen in a lot of their stuff recently). In DisneySea, you almost get the feeling that the lands and attractions are going on when you’re not there. Ships transporting goods, volcanos erupting, Captain Nemo doing experiments…you’re more of a visitor ‘intruding’ on a secret world. All the great Disney attractions have this feeling. The exception to the rule are the Indy attractions, as even though they literally use the tourist angle in their storyline (although Japan’s isn’t as much in-your-face with it as Anahiem’s), it still manages to take you, for just a brief moment, completely out of reality and into it’s own world. And on vacation, the last place I want to be is reality.

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                            Re: Disneyland Paris Resort TR Part One: Icky Studios Paris

                            Well you just seem to have great luck with CMs in France don't you?

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                              Re: Disneyland Paris Resort TR Part One: Icky Studios Paris

                              You can read my stories about the Santa Fe Hotel here :-

                              http://www.miceage.com/ianparkinson/ip100305a.htm

                              And my visit to the Studios here :-

                              http://www.mouseplanet.com/paris/studio1.htm

                              Ian
                              "I'm surrounded by idiots"

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