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    I just saw Wall-e this morning this post isnt about the film but ill suffice it to say it is awesome in so many ways not the least of which is its very powerful message.

    At its heart it takes many of the behaviors of people today and projects them into the near future, out of control consumerism, digital alienation of people, the increased weight gain of a lethargic over fed improperly fed populace.

    ( As a truly disabled person with MS the scenes of the overweight atrophied humans getting around in hover chairs reminds me of the many times I needed to use an electric wheelchair only to find they were all taken by people I suspect were just too overweight and out of shape and not really disabled with a debilitating disease)

    But all these seem to fly in the face of the way in which Disney markets to its guests! In a way the film IS about a typical guest experience at the parks being bombarded with junk food and plushy toys from china, t-shirts and just plain overpriced junk.

    I havent been in the last few weeks but i am curious to see how they are marketing wall-e in the parks, are there endless plush robots etc??

    I guess one question is, IS there a way for Disney to both capitalize on the films popularity but do it in a way that PROMOTES the films messages??

    As for new ride/attraction ties there are possibilities but only if they also promote the messages of the film.

    It does have monorails in it (they no longer work btw! how prophetic!)

    And it has a people mover but it would be an impractical design for the parks as it is just a flat platform for carrying robots and people.

    "This would be a great place if we could only get rid of all these people." - Walt Disney

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    Fisrt I take my hat off to you, keep up the fight. I haven't seen the movie yet but I think the people mover would be the perfect tie-in.
    Dave

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    • #3
      Re: Wall-e consumerism at the parks? And Possible ride tie ins?

      There is a plush. It is unusual in that it is not a "furry" plush, more of a straight fabric stuffed-toy. The fabric is printed with the details of Wall-E like his power-remaining light and such. Not very cute and cuddly really and I am a big fan.

      I did pick up an "infinitely-posable" action figure. It sits next to me here at the computer and is quite amusing. $8.95 at the Emporium...
      Last edited by mickeyandme67; 06-28-2008, 10:46 AM. Reason: x
      Permanecer sentado por favor...

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        Actually it was hard to find Wall-E stuff in the park - or at least the variety that one finds on Ebay and the Disney Store. They had: plush, interactive Wall-E and Eve, and the small figures but did not have the U Command Wall-E or the remote control Wall E and Eves nor did they have the Wall-E MP3 player speakers. I hope they roll more stuff out as "I love Wall-E" and want to share my money with Disney!!!
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        • #5
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          interesting commentary, personally I am not a fan of the movie... but I am curious how Disney will handle the message that went with the movie itself.
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            Originally posted by techskip View Post
            interesting commentary, personally I am not a fan of the movie... but I am curious how Disney will handle the message that went with the movie itself.
            Is there a Wall-E thread where I can see your reasoning? You are breaking Boy Solo's heart.

            In other news, not much merch that I could find in the park, but the merch I found was adorable.

            "I'm not funny. What I am is brave." - Lucille Ball

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            • #7
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              I'm betting Disney will just simply ignore the film's "message" and do anything and everything they can with Wall-e to make money out of it through us.

              I'm all for Wall-e Park influenced junk all over the place.

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                Originally posted by ashley solo View Post
                Is there a Wall-E thread where I can see your reasoning? You are breaking Boy Solo's heart.

                In other news, not much merch that I could find in the park, but the merch I found was adorable.
                They have a review section, I posted my thoughts on there.

                Originally posted by Micoofy Duck View Post
                I'm betting Disney will just simply ignore the film's "message" and do anything and everything they can with Wall-e to make money out of it through us.

                I'm all for Wall-e Park influenced junk all over the place.
                I am glad I am not the only one who will see irony in a Wall E AA scooping up and compacting cups, napkins, maps, and kid's meal boxes and other discarded items with Wall E plastered all over it!
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                • #9
                  Re: Wall-e consumerism at the parks? And Possible ride tie ins?

                  Reading some of the posts about buying wall-e merchandise is interesting I wonder how many have seen the film yet?

                  Even tho I am a firm believer in the message of the film, I am also a big robot fan and the full sized fully functional wall-e for $250 is very tempting! LMAO :-)

                  Unfortunately for us all the message of the film is most likely going to become a reality in this century as the film predicts, if for no other reason than runaway over population, even if we all lived a "green" lifestyle there are just too many humans and many more billions on the way to be sustained by the earth. With our ever growing overweight problems, increasing alienation due to living vicariously thru the internet, and detachment from the reality of how much resources we consume needlessly we are already about 1/3 of the way there now.

                  I personally believe the future survival of the human race is in space but not for the reasons in the film.

                  One thing I keep thinking is were there other ships like Axiom out there somewhere? It didnt seem like there were there was no mention of any other vessels and although difficult to tell how many humans on board it didnt seem like more than thousands when they were all called to the Lido Deck during the crisis, so what happened to all the many billions of other humans....... hmmmm

                  I am glad Lasseter and pixar had the power and the inspiration to use that power to make this film it clearly could not have been made by corporate entertainment without the power pixar has to do what it wants.

                  As for any upcoming attraction tie ins the escape pod from the film would make a nice ride vehicle
                  Last edited by GothicManor; 06-27-2008, 11:09 PM.

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                  "I wanted to retain my individuality. I knew if someone else got control, I would be restrained." —Walt Disney

                  "The fun is in always building something. You see, we never do the same thing twice around here. We're always opening up new doors." —Walt Disney

                  "I've always been bored with just making money. I've wanted to do things; I wanted to build things, to get something going..." —Walt Disney

                  "I can never stand still. I must explore and experiment. I am never satisfied with my work. I resent the limitations of my own imagination." —Walt Disney

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                  • #10
                    Re: Wall-e consumerism at the parks? And Possible ride tie ins?

                    Is there a rumor that there will be a hidden WallE at TSMM as well as Tinkerbell.
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                    • #11
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                      Well here's my WALL-E Chinese-produced consumerism I got today:


                      I'm guessing these are available at the parks and not just at the Toys R Us?

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                        Re: Wall-e consumerism at the parks? And Possible ride tie ins?

                        Originally posted by AtomicBear View Post
                        Is there a rumor that there will be a hidden WallE at TSMM as well as Tinkerbell.
                        There is now

                        One thing I just thought about. It wasn't until the humans got back to Earth that they "learned"... because even in space they were just amassing garbage and then chucking it out!
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                          Heres a BIG question about it:

                          If there were only a few thousand people on Axiom and it was apparently the only ship where were the other 99.99% of the billions of humans?

                          The earth evacuation apparently took place in 2100 ish by then there will over 10 billion humans (way too many for earth to support we are past the limit now) are we to assume when BNL CEO and earth president Fred Willard dons his gas mask and says "lets get the Heck out of here..." that only a few of the rich and powerful got to board Axiom for the 5 yr space cruise and the rest of humanity had to stay and perish suffocating and starving to death??

                          hmmm............

                          "This would be a great place if we could only get rid of all these people." - Walt Disney

                          sigpic

                          "Whenever I go on a ride, I'm always thinking of what's wrong with the thing and how it can be improved."
                          — Walt Disney

                          "I wanted to retain my individuality. I knew if someone else got control, I would be restrained." —Walt Disney

                          "The fun is in always building something. You see, we never do the same thing twice around here. We're always opening up new doors." —Walt Disney

                          "I've always been bored with just making money. I've wanted to do things; I wanted to build things, to get something going..." —Walt Disney

                          "I can never stand still. I must explore and experiment. I am never satisfied with my work. I resent the limitations of my own imagination." —Walt Disney

                          "Get a good idea and stay with it. Work it until it's done and done right." —Walt Disney

                          "Freedom of speech in all forms and in its broadest sense — has become vital to the very survival of a civilized humanity." —Walt Disney



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                          • #14
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                            BnL Jingle:

                            "Buy n Large, it's your Superstore, All you need and so much more, Happiness is what we sell, that's why everyone loves B n L... "

                            Ironic that shelves at Walmart and Costco will will be full of Wall-e toys (made in china, lets just hope they arent "overly" toxic) to be sold by Disney......

                            "This would be a great place if we could only get rid of all these people." - Walt Disney

                            sigpic

                            "Whenever I go on a ride, I'm always thinking of what's wrong with the thing and how it can be improved."
                            — Walt Disney

                            "I wanted to retain my individuality. I knew if someone else got control, I would be restrained." —Walt Disney

                            "The fun is in always building something. You see, we never do the same thing twice around here. We're always opening up new doors." —Walt Disney

                            "I've always been bored with just making money. I've wanted to do things; I wanted to build things, to get something going..." —Walt Disney

                            "I can never stand still. I must explore and experiment. I am never satisfied with my work. I resent the limitations of my own imagination." —Walt Disney

                            "Get a good idea and stay with it. Work it until it's done and done right." —Walt Disney

                            "Freedom of speech in all forms and in its broadest sense — has become vital to the very survival of a civilized humanity." —Walt Disney



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                            • #15
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                              Yeah its ironic...

                              All I know is Pixar is the brains behind the great Disney films of the past decade.

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                              • #16
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                                Actually, I could see a Wall-e attraction being a good fit for EPCOT.

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                                • #17
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                                  Originally posted by GothicManor View Post
                                  so what happened to all the many billions of other humans.....
                                  It's PEOPLE!, Soylent Green is PEOPLE!!!! Turns out it's yummy and more fattening than a Monte Cristo though.

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                                  • #18
                                    Re: Wall-e consumerism at the parks? And Possible ride tie ins?

                                    Originally posted by GothicManor View Post
                                    Heres a BIG question about it:

                                    If there were only a few thousand people on Axiom and it was apparently the only ship where were the other 99.99% of the billions of humans?

                                    The earth evacuation apparently took place in 2100 ish by then there will over 10 billion humans (way too many for earth to support we are past the limit now) are we to assume when BNL CEO and earth president Fred Willard dons his gas mask and says "lets get the Heck out of here..." that only a few of the rich and powerful got to board Axiom for the 5 yr space cruise and the rest of humanity had to stay and perish suffocating and starving to death??

                                    hmmm............
                                    Spoiler
                                    The movie made it seem like the Earth evacuation did take everyone -- at one point when Wall-E and Eve are in the shopping market store, if you look at the signage it says things like, "Everything Must Go!" and "Evacuation Sale!", theoretically because they must sell everything before the last of the humans leave Earth.


                                    As for Wall-E in the parks, the People Mover could be used sort of how it was in the movie, but the chairs would still need to be attached to it. I do like that idea however, and the ride could be about what happened after the humans returned home, which wouldn't be so thought provoking that people wouldn't go and buy the Wall-E toys in the park afterwards.

                                    Outside of DL, Wall-E could fit in many different places in Epcot -- the Land and the Universe of Energy both could use some freshening up, and including Wall-E helping to either "replant Earth" or find "new Energy" would be good ways to show people how things that we are doing today could lead to better solutions for the future. Again, not giving guests the message that they shouldn't buy those Wall-E toys, since he's helping after all

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                                    • #19
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                                      I have been thinking Disney missed an opportunity here with Wall-e

                                      Yes you have to offer products and make some money but the products could have been:

                                      1. more educational about the environment
                                      2. More environmentally sound
                                      3. not made and shipped 1,000s of miles from china
                                      4. Packaged in recycled biodegradable packaging using less packaging maybe corrugated brown cardboard to hit home that its different?
                                      5. include little picture storybooks about the film but with a message that it was too late for the people of wall-e's world but it may not be too late for us and have a little wall-e show how your family can do things like wast less electricity, change to cfl bulbs, recycle, only buy what you need, buy local food, etc etc,
                                      6. include a coupon on the packages from a major maker of cfl bulbs for a free bulb or $1 a cfl bulb

                                      OR SOMETHING

                                      The reasons I am sure they didnt do this are

                                      Pixar couldnt convince them of it or didnt think of it

                                      They were too afraid that all subsequent packaging for all other products would have to be similar

                                      No one actually thought of it

                                      I dont know which is sadder.......

                                      "This would be a great place if we could only get rid of all these people." - Walt Disney

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                                      "Whenever I go on a ride, I'm always thinking of what's wrong with the thing and how it can be improved."
                                      — Walt Disney

                                      "I wanted to retain my individuality. I knew if someone else got control, I would be restrained." —Walt Disney

                                      "The fun is in always building something. You see, we never do the same thing twice around here. We're always opening up new doors." —Walt Disney

                                      "I've always been bored with just making money. I've wanted to do things; I wanted to build things, to get something going..." —Walt Disney

                                      "I can never stand still. I must explore and experiment. I am never satisfied with my work. I resent the limitations of my own imagination." —Walt Disney

                                      "Get a good idea and stay with it. Work it until it's done and done right." —Walt Disney

                                      "Freedom of speech in all forms and in its broadest sense — has become vital to the very survival of a civilized humanity." —Walt Disney



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                                      • #20
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                                        Originally posted by Grandicorney View Post
                                        It's PEOPLE!, Soylent Green is PEOPLE!!!! Turns out it's yummy and more fattening than a Monte Cristo though.
                                        I thought that too, I mean where did all their food come from??

                                        we saw that they just chucked trash out into space from the ship but where did they get the resources to make the stuff to throw out? from minning asteroids or something? but what about organic matter?

                                        was there food "recycled" ???

                                        was it soylent green???!!! :-)

                                        "This would be a great place if we could only get rid of all these people." - Walt Disney

                                        sigpic

                                        "Whenever I go on a ride, I'm always thinking of what's wrong with the thing and how it can be improved."
                                        — Walt Disney

                                        "I wanted to retain my individuality. I knew if someone else got control, I would be restrained." —Walt Disney

                                        "The fun is in always building something. You see, we never do the same thing twice around here. We're always opening up new doors." —Walt Disney

                                        "I've always been bored with just making money. I've wanted to do things; I wanted to build things, to get something going..." —Walt Disney

                                        "I can never stand still. I must explore and experiment. I am never satisfied with my work. I resent the limitations of my own imagination." —Walt Disney

                                        "Get a good idea and stay with it. Work it until it's done and done right." —Walt Disney

                                        "Freedom of speech in all forms and in its broadest sense — has become vital to the very survival of a civilized humanity." —Walt Disney



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