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  • Re: Disney's California Adventure Project Tracker VII

    Green I-Beams...hmm... that makes me think of certain park that everyone praises:
    http://www.thirdamendment.com/DisneySeaNautilus.jpg

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      You're not going to end the issue by showing a beautiful weathered copper ornate walkway near some impressive rockwork and a full-sized copy of a sub so well designed that people adopt its name as their own. That pretty picture will just remind people how basic our stuff is by comparison.

      DisneySea eye candy is not the cure to GBOD (green beam obsession disorder). I have a picture which will distract people with a case of GBOD. Easily upset people should shield their eyes.



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        Originally posted by Nautilus View Post
        Green I-Beams...hmm... that makes me think of certain park that everyone praises:
        http://www.thirdamendment.com/DisneySeaNautilus.jpg
        Different context, different execution, different presentation.

        Not even close to Paradise Park, and it's this kind of argument that makes me fear for some of the MiceChatters here who are reaching so hard to justify the ongoing half-heartedness in DCA: With all that reaching, y'all might pull something.

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          The green, combine with the copper rosettes, is clean, classy and beautiful. It is a nice fit for the area. That's it.
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            It's a park. Don't most parks have that same green?
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              Originally posted by MasterGracey View Post
              Different context, different execution, different presentation..
              same green beams.

              Originally posted by MasterGracey View Post
              Not even close to Paradise Park, and it's this kind of argument that makes me fear for some of the MiceChatters here who are reaching so hard to justify the ongoing half-heartedness in DCA: With all that reaching, y'all might pull something.
              Are you trying to take over for Al Lutz? It ain't gonna work. There's is only one Al Lutz in this world. He was DCA's worst critic and even he seems to be doing what the rest of us are: waiting until construction is done before we label it as a half-hearted attempt

              Originally posted by spacejockey View Post
              It's a park. Don't most parks have that same green?
              Yes. Besides the teal that was there before, I don't know any other color besides dark green that would work.

              Yellow/Orange too bright and would clash with everything.. Blue wouldn't look right w/ the blue water in the bay. Black is too dark. I guess brown or beige would work but they'd be boring and flat colors... Dark green gives the right pop of color without being too distracting.
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                Originally posted by Professortango View Post
                Paradise Pier lacks these details and the new additions don't seem to be along the same lines. It looks very nice, pleasant, and pretty. But it doesn't feel real, and that's what Disney theming means to me.
                They are not done yet. It's fine to talk about how we are feeling about things, but to compare a work in progress to completed parks is ludicrous. It makes no sense. It's like comparing the just laid plaster of the Sistine Chapel ceiling to the finished Mona Lisa. You simply can't. One is done, one is still a work in progress. Yes, the green beam has issues, but it's a small part of a whole project that is still months away from being done. And possibly even YEARS from being done as I'm sure they have plenty they still want to add and touch up and do after this first round is done. So I have no problem with people stating their opinions about it, but to pass judgment based on how completed Disney projects look is a bit much for me. Sorry Professortango, I don't mean to be rude to you, yours is the just the most recent in a long line of judgment passing and comparisons I don't mean to sound rude or harsh to you. Just the issue in general. But I do agree with you, as it stands now, it is lacking in those details. We have to wait and see what, if anything, gets done to it now or in the future.

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                  Do we have any clue when the water is going back in the "Ocean" I heard it was suppose to be filled in September but now it seems like it wont be filled till at least November.
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                    Originally posted by Nautilus View Post
                    Green I-Beams...hmm... that makes me think of certain park that everyone praises:
                    http://www.thirdamendment.com/DisneySeaNautilus.jpg
                    That would be all well and good if the beam in question actually had rivets and such. Also, notice the rust and aging on the Mysterious Island's metal structures. That's part of what missing from the Pier beam. Aging gives scenic elements a sense of history and permanence. The beam, as well as the lighthouses, look like they were built yesterday, which doesn't agree with the rest of the theming. Everyone keeps claiming how the Pier is supposed to be so specifically set in the 1920's, but that means it would've been built around the turn of the century for the architecture style to make sense. Than means age, at least a little bit of it.

                    I'd also like to point out that the structures in MI are meant to be all metal, not the odd combo of metal with wood supports that the viewing area extension is showing. I just don't know that that type of construction would've existed back then. What makes sense about building that way?
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                      Steel Pier - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

                      This pier was built of wood with steel underpinnings. I imagine there may have been other, similar combinations.
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                        Originally posted by Nautilus View Post
                        Green I-Beams...hmm... that makes me think of certain park that everyone praises:
                        http://www.thirdamendment.com/DisneySeaNautilus.jpg
                        A picture that shows everything that is wrong with the current stuff in DCA and illustrates the complaints exactly.

                        In TDS, you have a natural color, 'texture' (through the rivets), aging, and it actually meshes with the entire concept of the structure. Here we have sterile, artificial looking, completely unnatural color, completely flat paint and surface, and no blending with the structure at all.

                        Looking at TDS shows just how bad this element is today.

                        Which is why I continue to hope... this is just the primer/base coast.
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                          Originally posted by MasterGracey View Post
                          Different context, different execution, different presentation.

                          Not even close to Paradise Park, and it's this kind of argument that makes me fear for some of the MiceChatters here who are reaching so hard to justify the ongoing half-heartedness in DCA: With all that reaching, y'all might pull something.
                          Me, I'm not reaching to justify DCA. It seems more like you are reaching to crush California Adventure. You see green beams and make a huge deal about it. First of all, what is wrong with green? Then, why make a huge fuss about it? Have you seen the finished Paradise Park? Maybe it will look good! You don't know. Save your judgement and spare this huge debate. I guarantee there will be another chance when it's finished. You let the lack of wrap-around boardwalk kill the Fun Wheel for you, now are these green beams going to kill World of Color for you? I don't know if I'm crazy or not, but I think green looks better than just plain old iron. I'm sure if Disney built a pier amusement park in the late 1800's and operated it during the 1920's, they would have painted their railings green. They've been painting their railings since 1955. In some cases, you can't spare thematic consistency for what looks right. Thematic inconsistencies are all over every Disney theme park. Take a look around DisneySea and find some things you don't like about it. You probably won't notice anything at first, but I'm sure it's still filled with its share of minute, minute, minute flaws, and I'm sure you won't care. This is why you should save your judgement. You're judging the entire Paradise Pier while it is entirely under construction, half-finished, blue wall-infested, in the middle of painting, hardly any landscaping, and an empty concrete lagoon filled with show equipment.

                          Rant over.

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                            I guess if the thing that people are gonna whine over the most is the color of a beam then the DCA re-do must be going pretty well overall.
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                              Originally posted by MasterGracey View Post
                              Different context, different execution, different presentation.

                              Not even close to Paradise Park, and it's this kind of argument that makes me fear for some of the MiceChatters here who are reaching so hard to justify the ongoing half-heartedness in DCA: With all that reaching, y'all might pull something.
                              I'm 100% on board with what you just said.
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                                Originally posted by WDITrent View Post
                                Me, I'm not reaching to justify DCA. It seems more like you are reaching to crush California Adventure. You see green beams and make a huge deal about it. First of all, what is wrong with green? Then, why make a huge fuss about it? Have you seen the finished Paradise Park? Maybe it will look good! You don't know. Save your judgement and spare this huge debate. I guarantee there will be another chance when it's finished. You let the lack of wrap-around boardwalk kill the Fun Wheel for you, now are these green beams going to kill World of Color for you? I don't know if I'm crazy or not, but I think green looks better than just plain old iron. I'm sure if Disney built a pier amusement park in the late 1800's and operated it during the 1920's, they would have painted their railings green. They've been painting their railings since 1955. In some cases, you can't spare thematic consistency for what looks right. Thematic inconsistencies are all over every Disney theme park. Take a look around DisneySea and find some things you don't like about it. You probably won't notice anything at first, but I'm sure it's still filled with its share of minute, minute, minute flaws, and I'm sure you won't care. This is why you should save your judgement. You're judging the entire Paradise Pier while it is entirely under construction, half-finished, blue wall-infested, in the middle of painting, hardly any landscaping, and an empty concrete lagoon filled with show equipment.

                                Rant over.
                                Sharing one's opinion on one green beam does NOT mean people are slamming the entire Paradise Park. Stop reading things that aren't there.
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                                  Originally posted by flynnibus View Post
                                  Which is why I continue to hope... this is just the primer/base coat.
                                  I was hoping that as well.......until they placed those circular, protruding designs on the surface of the beams. Now I'm not so certain they're going to do anything further with the them.
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                                  • Re: Disney's California Adventure Project Tracker VII

                                    I'm not sure if this has been mentioned before, but did anyone else notice that the new lanterns at the Lucky Fortune Cookery are the EXACT same lanterns from the Teacups.....just with some Asian symbols on them?






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                                      Wow! Good eye Reader. I would have never noticed the same lanterns.
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                                        This is probably to satisfy my own curiousity, but if anyone else is interested in how the Little Mermaid ride is going to fit into that space, here ya go:

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                                        • Re: Disney's California Adventure Project Tracker VII

                                          [QUOTE=Macro;1055598885]You're not going to end the issue by showing a beautiful weathered copper ornate walkway near some impressive rockwork and a full-sized copy of a sub so well designed that people adopt its name as their own. That pretty picture will just remind people how basic our stuff is by comparison.

                                          DisneySea eye candy is not the cure to GBOD (green beam obsession disorder). I have a picture which will distract people with a case of GBOD. Easily upset people should shield their eyes.



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