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  • [Question] Fewer trees in the hub

    When did they remove so many large trees from the hub Central Plaza? I was surprised by how sunny and hot it is now. Did they do that to provide better viewing of the fireworks over the castle? Years ago there were a lot of mature trees, with twinkling white lights at night, and that was a great place to rest in the shade on a hot day.

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    I didn't notice this when I was there 2 weeks ago!

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      Originally posted by Bob Weaver View Post
      When did they remove so many large trees from the hub Central Plaza? I was surprised by how sunny and hot it is now. Did they do that to provide better viewing of the fireworks over the castle? Years ago there were a lot of mature trees, with twinkling white lights at night, and that was a great place to rest in the shade on a hot day.
      I believe so. But I don't see the trees being much of an issue viewing the pyro. But it all boils down to where your seeing it.

      It could also be that some of the trees were getting too old and had to be removed before they presented a danger by falling down on unsuspecting guess. Probably they did that after that one branch in NOS snapped off due to old age.

      Either way, it does provide a good view of the castle from main street and would be considered a good trade off.


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        I remember when they removed the old trees and replaced them with younger ones. I have no clue why, it could've been a scale issue with the castle.

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        • #5
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          Don't they also replace the trees along main St periodically. It seems like they don't want those trees growing too large or else it would mess with he walkways.

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          • #6
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            At the D23 event where we got to see a screening of the restored "Disneyland USA," Tony Baxter shared with us that he rescued those trees -- twinkling lights and all -- as they were being ripped out. They now live in his backyard!
            My finger points.

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            • #7
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              There used to be some big olive trees in the Hub which were cut out some time prior to the 50th and replaced with the current ones, pretty sure Tony Baxter has a few in his backyard and a few others got moved around to the sounding areas. If anyone thinks this is bad go see MK's hub.
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                Wow, I wish I could even have one of those trees - with the original lights. Even though the lights were all white, it made Disneyland seem like Christmas all year. Gave it a really nice look at night. I remember sitting there as a kid, we were exhausted so we waited for one of the vehicles on Main Street just to save us that much walking. But the twinkling white lights, the summer fireworks, the Haunted Mansion, Tomorrowland and Nature's Wonderland all combined to make it seem like a place where it was always Christmas, the 4th of July, Halloween, a world's fair, and summer vacation all at the same time every night.
                Last edited by Bob Weaver; 10-01-2009, 07:52 PM.

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                    Originally posted by Bass Shakers View Post
                    At the D23 event where we got to see a screening of the restored "Disneyland USA," Tony Baxter shared with us that he rescued those trees -- twinkling lights and all -- as they were being ripped out. They now live in his backyard!
                    +1

                    I can verify this story. I was there, too. And they were olive trees, for what it's worth.

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                    • #11
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                      they change the trees every so many years but it had been awhile since it was done. They replaced all the trees in 2005 with smaller ones and removed the large ones that were blocking the views of the castle. The ones that were not removed are trimmed back quite often.


                      Around that time they also removed all the huge pine trees that used to be between the castle and the Matterhorn. They used to put strings of lights on those for Christmas time. They were huge and threw off the perspective of the mountain. They also cleared up the view when the new cable system for tink was added

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                      • #12
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                        It's funny that they ever used olive trees in the first place, because many people are allergic to the pollen, and because olive trees make a huge mess when the fruit drops. We used to have one. You would think they would prefer conifers or at least jacarandas.

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                        • #13
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                          They used to spray the trees with a hormone-based chemical that would keep them from pollinating. No pollen = no allergens and no fruit.

                          They have jacarandas along the tramway where it parallels Downtown Disney. At certain times of the year, the ground there is stained purple from the flowers that fall.
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                          • #14
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                            All I know is that if they had to replace them, the Tabebuia trees were the perfect choice to replace them. The hub is stunning now in Spring.

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                            • #15
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                              If I recall correctly the old trees in the hub were Ficus, known for their sidewalk cracking roots. Disney must have been spending a mint on root barriers, root pruning and preventative trimming to protect the pavement. You really have to know what you're doing when you root prune.

                              Pink tabebuia was a nice choice for a replacement - one of my favorite small to medium trees and, like MacDaddy said, beautiful flowers in springtime!
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                                Originally posted by Young at Heart View Post
                                If I recall correctly the old trees in the hub were Ficus, known for their sidewalk cracking roots. Disney must have been spending a mint on root barriers, root pruning and preventative trimming to protect the pavement. You really have to know what you're doing when you root prune.

                                Pink tabebuia was a nice choice for a replacement - one of my favorite small to medium trees and, like MacDaddy said, beautiful flowers in springtime!
                                Except, unless my memory is failing me, we were told this at the D23 Disneyland, U.S.A. event, where Tony Baxter was on the panel, and they talked specifically about these trees. And I'm 99% sure they said they were olive trees.

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                                • #17
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                                  I really don't remember what kind of trees, but when I was a kid the Central Plaza was a shady place that was great for relaxation. Now it seems like shade is scarce there.

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                                  • #18
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                                    The entertainment princess designed a fireworks show for the 50th that could only be enjoyed properly with a clear view of the castle, forcing everyone in the park into the hub. The trees were removed to clear the sightlines. You can thank Steve Davison for this. The show must go on, shade and beauty be damned into yesterland.

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                                    • #19
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                                      Would you like to hear from Horticulture?

                                      The trees in the Hub were Olive trees. One of them that was taken out has actually been relocated to another part of the park. Besides Olive trees, there are also Flowering Pear trees. Trees were taken out because 1. The scale of the trees in relation to the castle and Main street and 2. For firework veiwing....in 1955..fireworks weren't in the plan when planting these trees. Jacarandas and Conifers wouldn't work because they don't fit the Old Town Main Street Look...don't fit in the story. If you have any more questions...please ask!

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                                      • #20
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                                        Originally posted by dland_lover View Post
                                        Except, unless my memory is failing me, we were told this at the D23 Disneyland, U.S.A. event, where Tony Baxter was on the panel, and they talked specifically about these trees. And I'm 99% sure they said they were olive trees.
                                        In May 2005, Carolwood Pacific Historical Society sponsored a tour of Baxterland in Anaheim Hills for its members. Tony was presented with a gold plaque for the "popcorn cart" olive tree which now resides next to his driveway. (The second olive tree is in his backyard.) Disney Magazine reprinted an old Baxter family photo of teenaged Tony and his grandmother standing in front of that same olive tree, next to the popcorn cart, in 2004.

                                        Tony remarked that the final cost to get those two trees from Disneyland to his house in Anaheim Hills and the subsequent repair work to the road asphalt that the crane damaged was in the neighborhood of $10K.

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