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  • [Chat] The name "Disneyland Monorail System"

    Whatever happened to the name "Disneyland Monorail System?" Ever since the attraction opened in 1959, it was either known as the Disneyland-Alweg Monorail System in the early years, or the Disneyland Monorail System.

    Up until the 90s, there was a sign above the Tomorrowland Station the read "Disneyland Monorail System." When Tomorrowland changed for the worst in 1998, they replaced it with a sign that simply read "Monorail." After that, the only place you could find the attraction's full name was on the sides of the Mark V trains.

    The problem now is that WDI did not even bother carrying the name over to the Mark VII trains. Now you can't find any signage with the attraction's full name.

    I think it's wrong for Disneyland to identify the attraction as just "Monorail." There are plenty of monorails around the world, but only one Disneyland Monorail System. For a monorail system that has so much history behind it, why would they want to identify it with a generic name?

    Recently, I posted a thread on proper attraction names . In that discussion, some of us mentioned it's okay to abbreviate names of attractions. People will never say a full name like "Disneyland Monorail System." However, it's the meaning behind the original name that matters. In this case, there's a lot of meaning and history in the name "Disneyland Monorail System."

    What would Walt fans think if Disneyland decided to remove all "Disneyland Railroad" signage in favor of signs that read "Railroad?" No one ever calls it the Disneyland Railroad, but there is meaning in the name even though people will abbreviate it.

    I think the reason why the lack of proper monorail signage has gone unnoticed is because it was a gradual process. When the Mark VII monorails debuted, the fascinating design of the new trains overshadowed anything that it lacked (except when the heat/window problem became an overwhelming nightmare).

    What are your thoughts?


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    Re: The name "Disneyland Monorail System"

    I'm sure it won't be too long until they rename it "Aladdin's Magic Carpet" with flat open-air vehicles and to save money they will have guests pedal-power it. And they will call that "innovative" and "magical." Or else they will just make the entire track a giant planter (with succulents only) and someone in the company will get an award for that. Monorail fans will then have to commiserate with Skyway fans, Mine Train fans and ATIS fans.

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    • #3
      Re: The name "Disneyland Monorail System"

      Didn't you forget PeopleMover fans?

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      • #4
        Re: The name "Disneyland Monorail System"

        The park forgot them, but I haven't, in fact I'm one myself. Yes, PeopleMover fans.

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        • #5
          Re: The name "Disneyland Monorail System"

          Remember the Mark Is had the Santa Fe railroad logo on them - Retlaw owned the rails at Disneyland and had agreements with Santa Fe around co-sponsorship. Alweg was the creator of the monorail configuration Disney used - Disneyland built it and hence the Disneyland-Alweg designation.

          Both the Santa Fe and Alweg partnerships eventually ended, and it became the Disneyland Monorail System. But I do remember when the Mark IIIs were on the beam that there was a sign "Monorail" at the Tomorrowland station. The trains did have the Disneyland Monorail System names on them...along with the Disneyland U.S.A label on the tail cone.

          While I think the MarkVIIs beautiful trains, the whole episode of getting them on the beam showed a lack of thought and management...it's not surprising they forgot the name...I'm sure that effort went into the new in-cab lighted logos... :blush:

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            Re: The name "Disneyland Monorail System"

            Originally posted by Circa1966 View Post
            Remember the Mark Is had the Santa Fe railroad logo on them - Retlaw owned the rails at Disneyland and had agreements with Santa Fe around co-sponsorship. Alweg was the creator of the monorail configuration Disney used - Disneyland built it and hence the Disneyland-Alweg designation.

            Both the Santa Fe and Alweg partnerships eventually ended, and it became the Disneyland Monorail System. But I do remember when the Mark IIIs were on the beam that there was a sign "Monorail" at the Tomorrowland station. The trains did have the Disneyland Monorail System names on them...along with the Disneyland U.S.A label on the tail cone.

            While I think the MarkVIIs beautiful trains, the whole episode of getting them on the beam showed a lack of thought and management...it's not surprising they forgot the name...I'm sure that effort went into the new in-cab lighted logos... :blush:
            Correct. It was the same thing with the Santa Fe & Disneyland Railroad. Once that partnership ended, it was just the Disneyland Railroad. Thankfully, it's still the Disneyland Railroad to this day.

            Also, WDI still didn't get the name completely right on those interior lighted logos... But who cares when you've got an awesome looking monorail, right?

            I guess whatever WDI does, Disneyland just has to accept.

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            • #7
              Re: The name "Disneyland Monorail System"

              I remember hearing plans to call the new Mark VII's part of the "Disneyland Resort Line", or something like that. Something with Resort in it, all I remember.

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                Re: The name "Disneyland Monorail System"

                The fact that it is now a resort instead of just Disneyland Park definitly had an effect on the name.

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                • #9
                  Re: The name "Disneyland Monorail System"

                  Originally posted by TrevorD View Post
                  The fact that it is now a resort instead of just Disneyland Park definitly had an effect on the name.
                  Resort? Where's the golf course?

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                  • #10
                    Re: The name "Disneyland Monorail System"

                    Originally posted by Steve DeGaetano View Post
                    Resort? Where's the golf course?
                    And wheres a Disney themed Casino in this resort. LOL

                    I seriously don't know why it was called a resort in the first place.


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                    • #11
                      Re: The name "Disneyland Monorail System"

                      ^Top of the matterhorn. They had to tear out the hoop to put in the 9 holes.

                      The other nine are in DCA. Im sure you could easily find 9 holes in the construction area.

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                      • #12
                        Re: The name "Disneyland Monorail System"

                        Originally posted by Code90 View Post
                        Also, WDI still didn't get the name completely right on those interior lighted logos... But who cares when you've got an awesome looking monorail, right?
                        Well, I don't know - Walt used to infer that the devil was in the details - he'd care.

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                          Re: The name "Disneyland Monorail System"

                          Originally posted by Code90 View Post
                          Also, WDI still didn't get the name completely right on those interior lighted logos... But who cares when you've got an awesome looking monorail, right?
                          If I'm not mistaken, the logos inside read Disneyland Monorail Mark VII, acknowledging the train design itself rather than the attraction name.

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