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    In another thread I raised the possibility of DL selling the resort to an outside company and running it as a franchise like the foreign parks.

    What would this mean to you? Would it change your view of DL? Would you see DL as "lost forever?" Would you keep your pass? How would it affect DL's ops? More attractions? Fewer?

    There's a strong case either way. Tokyo is seen as the gold standard w/ its high level of theming and non-reliance on movie-based attractions. OTOH, Paris is closer to what we have in CA: a main park that has lots of style but little substance and a lackluster second gate.

    What do you think?
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  • #2
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    No.

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    • #3
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      Sure, if it was sold to a non-profit corporation managed by Disneyland fans.

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      • #4
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        Let's not go there.

        Because I sure as hell wouldn't.

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        • #5
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          A company like the OLC that would really run the place well would be the only change I'd welcome (or as Bob suggested, a company run by Disneyland fans, though we'd start running out of room to put all the old attractions in :P ) . If it was a company like Six Flags or pretty much any of the other American theme park companies... no thank you.
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          • #6
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            Originally posted by Bob Weaver View Post
            Sure, if it was sold to a non-profit corporation managed by Disneyland fans.
            If a sale were necessary this is a Great idea, I would be one of the first to sign up to invest.

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            • #7
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              They should do that with WDW. Not Disneyland. It would make more sense. Disneyland's losses are a lot more manageable than the losses due to that huge behemoth in Florida.

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              • #8
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                If it were to go under new management, I for one wouldn't just hand it over to a group of huge disneyland fans. No offense to anyone here, but it'd just turn out to be a disaster because we'd be bringing back the old. Walt said that disneyland will never be complete as long as there is imagination and by bringing back old attractions, it goes against that philosophy (from my point of view) and also would probably be bad for business. Bringing back revamped versions of those attractions would be great, but that's a different vibe from what I'm getting from other's postings.

                Alos, from a business sense, a disneyland fan management wouldn't be a smart idea in my opinion.

                IF new management were to come in, I'd look at wanting to bring a chief creative person to manage the whole thing - a single creative leader to decide what's best for the park and direct it into something that is innovative. Below that person, I'd want to see a strong business leader. This is what I saw in the original Walt and Roy Disney partnership. There was Walt with the strong creative leadership with Roy right behind him to make those creative things happen from a business stance.

                Today, it seems that management is heavy on the business side, but with a new president in place and some changes in the upper management for the company itself, I'm curious to see how things will change.

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                • #9
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                  Keep the old classics, expand and add new.


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                  • #10
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                    I would be extremely hesitant, but I'd be willing to give them a chance to do as well as Oriental Land Company does. If they can take better care of the park than Disney and Disney retains some veto power I think I would accept it.

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                    • #11
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                      If it was by the same company that owns TDL, yes.

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                      • #12
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                        Originally posted by ryanvalle View Post
                        If it were to go under new management, I for one wouldn't just hand it over to a group of huge disneyland fans. No offense to anyone here, but it'd just turn out to be a disaster because we'd be bringing back the old. Walt said that disneyland will never be complete as long as there is imagination and by bringing back old attractions, it goes against that philosophy (from my point of view) and also would probably be bad for business. Bringing back revamped versions of those attractions would be great, but that's a different vibe from what I'm getting from other's postings.

                        Alos, from a business sense, a disneyland fan management wouldn't be a smart idea in my opinion.

                        IF new management were to come in, I'd look at wanting to bring a chief creative person to manage the whole thing - a single creative leader to decide what's best for the park and direct it into something that is innovative. Below that person, I'd want to see a strong business leader. This is what I saw in the original Walt and Roy Disney partnership. There was Walt with the strong creative leadership with Roy right behind him to make those creative things happen from a business stance.

                        Today, it seems that management is heavy on the business side, but with a new president in place and some changes in the upper management for the company itself, I'm curious to see how things will change.
                        I don't know how I would feel about under new management.
                        But I do have to comment on the supposed intent of what Disneyland is and isn't (this museum talk that is shoved down our throats when Disney wants us to buy into a move that maybe wasn't wise due to saving money). I see the point of the line (if in full context), but at the same time think you can continue to move forward without destroying history (if Walt really didn't think we should hold on to elements of the past, then main street, Frontierland and Lincoln would have never been built).

                        Second,
                        Not sure if I go along with the suggestion that Disney fans would be creative enough to run a park.
                        I actually think when it got down to it, a TRUE disney fan would treat the park with the high respect and make sure the park got the best that it deserves.
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                        To that end I'd like the Internet community to join me in reminding the Disney company that "it all started with Walt." As you can see below we've created some T-shirts, plus a few simple graphics that you can copy and paste into your websites to let folks know how you feel.
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                        • #13
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                          I would only want it to ever have the possibility of being sold to OLC; no one else.

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                          • #14
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                            ^WDW needs OLC desperately. But Disney will not ever sell Disneyland.

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                            • #15
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                              Really just depends on the company. Because I have far more allegiance to Disneyland the theme park than to Disney the company, I really wouldn't necessarily have any problem with Disney no longer owning the park. The key thing is that whoever is running the park needs to be ensuring that the place is constantly improving. Elements that are not functioning as well as they should be are touched up, removed, and/or replaced altogether. New elements are exemplary in every category imaginable - simple fun factor, variety, thematic appropriateness, hourly capacity, marketability, safety, re-rideability, widespread appeal, timelessness, classiness, etc. As long as that's being done, I don't care who's doing it.

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                              • #16
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                                Bad idea.

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                                • #17
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                                  Originally posted by ryanvalle View Post
                                  If it were to go under new management, I for one wouldn't just hand it over to a group of huge disneyland fans. No offense to anyone here, but it'd just turn out to be a disaster because we'd be bringing back the old. Walt said that disneyland will never be complete as long as there is imagination and by bringing back old attractions, it goes against that philosophy (from my point of view) and also would probably be bad for business. Bringing back revamped versions of those attractions would be great, but that's a different vibe from what I'm getting from other's postings.

                                  Alos, from a business sense, a disneyland fan management wouldn't be a smart idea in my opinion.

                                  IF new management were to come in, I'd look at wanting to bring a chief creative person to manage the whole thing - a single creative leader to decide what's best for the park and direct it into something that is innovative. Below that person, I'd want to see a strong business leader. This is what I saw in the original Walt and Roy Disney partnership. There was Walt with the strong creative leadership with Roy right behind him to make those creative things happen from a business stance.

                                  Today, it seems that management is heavy on the business side, but with a new president in place and some changes in the upper management for the company itself, I'm curious to see how things will change.
                                  Here were I have trouible the word "Imagination"
                                  I fell Disneyland been lacking for sometime now!
                                  NO "E"Attraction for over 15 years?
                                  Have not gear to the guest, the way that Walt and Roy would want!
                                  I think Disneyland is loseing it's magic......
                                  Soaring like an EAGLE !

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                                  • #18
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                                    There has been a few times when people wondered if the company would sell off it's theme park ventures and focus on the studio aspect of Disney. I really think that my feelings would depend on the company that decides to take the reins.

                                    If the company was in it for the long term and actually cared about how they presented the Disney product then I would be indifferent, if the end result was more then what Disney initially offered I might even be grateful. If the company continued Disney's modern tradition of squeezing every penny out of Guests with high markups on low quality products, to the point of further driving the beloved old park into the ground, then I would be upset... but no more upset then I am now.

                                    It also depends on Disney's relationship with said company. If Disney played "nice" and offered lucrative liscensing opportunities and the company continued to gouge Guests despite the low costs then I would be upset at the company. If Disney played "hard" and charged a fortune just so the "new Disneyland" could have Disney characters then I would be upset with Disney.

                                    And you have the company strategy to think about. Is the company in it for the long haul with long term investments and a goal of maintaining a longstanding customer base? Is the company in it for the short term, fixing up the park so they can re-sell it to another investment firm or company at a profit? Is the company in it for the "big profits", essentially squeezing every penny possible out of the park and then ultimately scrapping it?

                                    So my opinion of "Under New Management" really depends on the motives, goals, and relationships established by the new management.
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                                    • #19
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                                      I actually like the idea.......so long as the new owner loved the place. There are sports team owners out there that actually lose money all the time but don't mind because they love the sport.

                                      Same kinda thing could work for Disneyland.
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                                      • #20
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                                        Originally posted by ryanvalle View Post
                                        If it were to go under new management, I for one wouldn't just hand it over to a group of huge disneyland fans. No offense to anyone here, but it'd just turn out to be a disaster because we'd be bringing back the old. Walt said that disneyland will never be complete as long as there is imagination and by bringing back old attractions, it goes against that philosophy (from my point of view) and also would probably be bad for business. Bringing back revamped versions of those attractions would be great, but that's a different vibe from what I'm getting from other's postings.

                                        Thank you.

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