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  • #21
    Re: So when is Star Tours closing for refurb?

    Originally posted by disneyfann121 View Post
    It's a sequel, with completely upgraded technology. That's not a refurb by any stretch of the definition. Was it a "refurb" when Universal replaced Back to the Future with the Simpsons ride?
    I don't see the point here since DLR is not replacing the Star Tours attraction with an attraction of a different subject which is what was done at USH in the case you mention above.

    From what I have read, the Star Tours "refurb" (I really don't think the label of the project is something to nit pick anyway) will consist of upgrading the current simulators so that they can be in sinc and work with the new films that have already been shot. There will also be some minor theme improvements and cleaning up of the queue area. The time frame given seems ample for that kind of stuff.

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    • #22
      Re: So when is Star Tours closing for refurb?

      Originally posted by Bill View Post
      Call me crazy, but who said anything about getting new simulators?
      I'm not sure anyone from Disney specifically said anything about getting new simulators, but from all of the new effects and ride features that are reportedly being added, if the old simulators were going to be used, they would have to be gutted to basically nothing more than a shell, and rebuild from there. Also, all of the mechanisms involved in movement would likely have to be replaced.
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      • #23
        Re: So when is Star Tours closing for refurb?

        Originally posted by Goofy Daddy View Post
        I don't see the point here since DLR is not replacing the Star Tours attraction with an attraction of a different subject which is what was done at USH in the case you mention above.

        From what I have read, the Star Tours "refurb" (I really don't think the label of the project is something to nit pick anyway) will consist of upgrading the current simulators so that they can be in sinc and work with the new films that have already been shot. There will also be some minor theme improvements and cleaning up of the queue area. The time frame given seems ample for that kind of stuff.
        Let's see...a completely new ride film, based on the prequels instead of the original Star Wars movies, in 3D, with many variable storylines, interactive elements, and a state of the art simulator...that's what you call a mere "refurbishment"?

        This isn't nitpicking, this is a fundamental difference. Every refurb I ever heard of involves touching up and sprucing up the existing elements and settings -- not replacing all of it with completely new scenes and technology that shames the original. Some refurbs involve little more than fixing up a few AAs and adding a fresh coat of paint.

        Have you ever heard of a "refurb" that took over ten years to prepare? Star Tours II has been in development for longer than that. If Indy closed down and reopened with an entirely different storyline based on the latest movie, with all new scenes and nothing recognizeable from the original except the name...you would call that a "refurb"? Oh, please.
        Last edited by disneyfann121; 12-01-2009, 01:57 PM.

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        • #24
          Re: So when is Star Tours closing for refurb?

          Originally posted by disneyfann121 View Post
          Let's see...a completely new ride film, based on the prequels instead of the original Star Wars movies, in 3D, with many variable storylines, interactive elements, and a state of the art simulator...that's what you call a mere "refurbishment"?

          This isn't nitpicking, this is a fundamental difference. Every refurb I ever heard of involves touching up and sprucing up the existing elements and settings -- not replacing all of it with completely new scenes and technology that shames the original. Some refurbs involve little more than fixing up a few AAs and adding a fresh coat of paint.

          Have you ever heard of a "refurb" that took over ten years to prepare? Star Tours II has been in development for longer than that. If Indy closed down and reopened with an entirely different storyline based on the latest movie, with all new scenes and nothing recognizeable from the original except the name...you would call that a "refurb"? Oh, please.
          You can call it something other than a refurb if the term irks you so much, really you can.

          It's Star Tours with a new film and upgraded technology, but it is still Star Tours and so it is different from your example from USH. Please feel free to call the project anything you feel compelled (obsessed?) to call it, but do have enough respect for others to allow them to label it as they see fit as well.

          As to an entirely different "storyline"...where did you get your information? The "storyline" (what most refer to as the "theme" of the attraction) is we are a group of galactic tourists being taken via a shuttle to vacation on an exotic world (Endor for the riginal version) and the trip has some misshaps and detours. As far as I have read, this basic storyline will still be in place except that via the new film the destination will no longer be Endor and the new technology will make it even more interactive than before. Upgrade, refurb, revisioning...what ever floats each individuals boat.

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          • #25
            Re: So when is Star Tours closing for refurb?

            Originally posted by Tomorrowland_1967 View Post
            Is Starcade listed as going down for refurb next year? Or the next?

            And why would they bother .. with a pending over-all plan to renovate the entire land? Which is slated sometime in the early part of the next decade.
            According to this week's update:

            Starcade: Closed January 4 through February 1 for refurbishment.

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            • #26
              Re: So when is Star Tours closing for refurb?

              Is there any update as to when this will occur? Not a big fan of the ride, but my sister-in-law loves it and wants to plan her trip so she won't miss it....

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              • #27
                Re: So when is Star Tours closing for refurb?

                Originally posted by BiggestDisneyFan View Post
                I'm not sure anyone from Disney specifically said anything about getting new simulators, but from all of the new effects and ride features that are reportedly being added, if the old simulators were going to be used, they would have to be gutted to basically nothing more than a shell, and rebuild from there. Also, all of the mechanisms involved in movement would likely have to be replaced.
                I see this scenario happening but not all of the simulator necessarily needs to be gutted out here. The seats and restraint devices can remain as-is bolted down to the frame, door mechanisms, actuators, etc probably don't need to be touched either. The interior wall and ceiling panels should definitely be replaced or at the least re-applied to the subframe because they rattle like a 62' chevy these days. Perhaps swap out the small monitors with new LCD screens, replace the projectors with newer HD models, and maybe even implement some LCD technology in the no smoking lamps up above. Other than that it's just a matter of adding a few wires to the master harness to accomidate more effects and better speakers.

                If you can find the right crews to do the job then closing the attraction for 6 months gives more than enough time to get the new version setup. However my intuition tells me that this will probably get delayed until early July and perhaps open with one or two severe glitches. But that's just my opinion.

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                • #28
                  Re: So when is Star Tours closing for refurb?

                  Originally posted by elsa View Post
                  Is there any update as to when this will occur? Not a big fan of the ride, but my sister-in-law loves it and wants to plan her trip so she won't miss it....
                  I was told by a CM a couple weeks ago.

                  Star Tours closes October 23rd, 2010!


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                  • #29
                    Re: So when is Star Tours closing for refurb?

                    Originally posted by Sorcerer's Apprentice View Post
                    I was told by a CM a couple weeks ago.

                    Star Tours closes October 23rd, 2010!

                    Thanks! I'll let her know. We can put off that visit for a while then!

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                    • #30
                      Re: So when is Star Tours closing for refurb?

                      It took them almost 2 months to install Captain Eo and we are still missing the majority of in-theater effects (the motion base floor was not installed until HISTA took over the theater). For them to do a complete overhaul of Star Tours in approximately 6 months seems wildly optimistic. Just look how long it has taken to build the viewing area for WoC...and it's STILL not completed. 6(ish) months for Star Tours from closure to re-opening either reeks of a cheap redo or they are going to have round-the-clock crews working under a strict deadline. Hopefully it's the latter rather than the former.
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                      • #31
                        Re: So when is Star Tours closing for refurb?

                        I really am so sad to see the classic Star Tours go.
                        Huge fan of the films, even the prequels, but I don't think that they should be brought in.
                        Yes obviously Star Tours is a bit dated but so what?
                        Even more so I hate that my best friend (he lives in NY) will never know what it's like to visit the OG Star Tours *sniffles*

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                        • #32
                          Re: So when is Star Tours closing for refurb?

                          Originally posted by ZomBats View Post
                          I really am so sad to see the classic Star Tours go.
                          Huge fan of the films, even the prequels, but I don't think that they should be brought in.
                          Yes obviously Star Tours is a bit dated but so what?
                          Even more so I hate that my best friend (he lives in NY) will never know what it's like to visit the OG Star Tours *sniffles*

                          Oh come on, you have to admit that it was getting outdated and it seemed a bit really cheesy. Besides, it'll probably get a DVD release like the BTTF ride did. However though I will miss the era it portrays because I'm not a huge fan of the prequels, especially Pod-Racing. Hopefully they keep all the set pieces left over from Adventure Through InnerSpace and the AT-AT/X-Wing replicas outside.

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                          • #33
                            Re: So when is Star Tours closing for refurb?

                            Captain EO countdown again? Anyone?

                            October 2010 sounds fine.

                            Spring 2011 sounds too soon. I expect late summer, like June or July.

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                            • #34
                              Re: So when is Star Tours closing for refurb?

                              Originally posted by d1mex View Post
                              Captain EO countdown again? Anyone?

                              October 2010 sounds fine.

                              Spring 2011 sounds too soon. I expect late summer, like June or July.
                              Lets see,

                              Star TOurs is closing in October and depending on when they plan to reopen it as Star Tours 2, I would say you're right.

                              Spring does sound too early for a reopening and a Summer date would be better. But it would depend on how fast they can get everything for Star Tours 2 in and to test everything.

                              So I'm projecting a late spring or early-mid summer opening for Star Tours 2.


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