[Question] HollywoodLand?

[jcman3777]

I saw in previous threads that the term "HollywoodLand" was being thrown around as the new name of Hollywood Pictures Backlot at DCA to fit with CarsLand getting a "land" at the end. Is this official that this is happening?

And I also saw that this "HollywoodLand" would receive atmosphere story changes along with attractions changing. Is this true?

I'd like to see a classic dark ride similar to Great Movie Ride (with state-of-the-art technology) at DHS replace Monsters Inc. That would add a lot of richness to the area. What do you think?

[Imagineer Scott]

Re: HollywoodLand?

I know MI isn't big enough of a showroom for it, but the area formely know as Millionaire might be big enough.

I do like that idea... one major issue though :/ DCA's Hollywood is modern while DHS' is in the 40s

[SCUBAbe]

Re: HollywoodLand?

hollywoodland would not be to orginal, but then again I guess all the lands derive from it in some way.

[JungleCruiseFan]

Re: HollywoodLand?

I like the name, because that's what the sign originally said. And I'm 75% sure it's official.

[Rob�]

Re: HollywoodLand?

Is this official that this is happening?

It is slated to be part of Phase Two of the overall
re-theme/expansion for the park.

And I also saw that this "HollywoodLand" would receive atmosphere story changes along with attractions changing. Is this true?

Generally speaking, yes.

I'd like to see a classic dark ride similar to Great Movie Ride (with state-of-the-art technology) at DHS replace Monsters Inc.

Monsters Inc.: Mike and Sulley to the Rescue
attraction was a "quick fix" overlay that cost
an substantial amount of money to incorporate
into a former attraction's layout.

The attraction's removal will more than likely will not happen.

What may happen is the attraction's exterior
would be remodeled to reflect the 1930's time period.

[Ice101]

Re: HollywoodLand?

I know MI isn't big enough of a showroom for it, but the area formely know as Millionaire might be big enough.

I do like that idea... one major issue though :/ DCA's Hollywood is modern while DHS' is in the 40s

:bang:

You don't know much about the DCA Expansion do you...?

[Bob Weaver]

Re: HollywoodLand?



The sign did indeed read "HOLLYWOODLAND" from 1923 to 1949, except the H deteriorated and toppled over sometime in between. The "LAND" was removed in 1949, but the sign continued to deteriorate and was only restored to good condition in 1978. I think it's very fitting to name a part of DCA "Hollywoodland" as a tribute to a small section of California with a long history, closely associated with the motion picture industry. Much more detail at: Hollywood Sign

[Imagineer Scott]

Re: HollywoodLand?

:bang:

You don't know much about the DCA Expansion do you...?

Hollywoodland is not in the 40s even though BVS is way back in time when Walt first visited California.

And yes, I do know about the expansion.

Be obnoxious all you want.

The sign did indeed read "HOLLYWOODLAND" from 1923 to 1949, except the H deteriorated and toppled over sometime in between. The "LAND" was removed in 1949, but the sign continued to deteriorate and was only restored to good condition in 1978. I think it's very fitting to name a part of DCA "Hollywoodland" as a tribute to a small section of California with a long history, closely associated with the motion picture industry. Much more detail at: Hollywood Sign

There's a plaque on this in DHS I remember seeing my last trip. It was a real estate company if I remember correctly!

[Ice101]

Re: HollywoodLand?

Hollywoodland is not in the 40s even though BVS is way back in time when Walt first visited California.

And yes, I do know about the expansion.

Be obnoxious all you want.

Sorry dude, but at this point I question everything you say with your lack of Disney knowledge. Over in the DisneySea Dilemma thread I am sure you thought I was being obnoxious too until a few other people trampled you for the same thing.

Hollywoodland is the planned retheme of HPB. So in that case HPB wouldn't be modern and be in the 1930s/40s

I really wonder how much you even know about Disney parks. I'll start respecting your input when you prove yourself that you deserve to be called a Disney Enthusiast.

[Imagineer Scott]

Re: HollywoodLand?

Sorry dude, but at this point I question everything you say with your lack of Disney knowledge. Over in the DisneySea Dilemma thread I am sure you thought I was being obnoxious too until a few other people trampled you for the same thing.

Hollywoodland is the planned retheme of HPB. So in that case HPB wouldn't be modern and be in the 1930s/40s

I really wonder how much you even know about Disney parks. I'll start respecting your input when you prove yourself that you deserve to be called a Disney Enthusiast.

There's no way MI, DAS, TS:TM, ect belong in Hollywood 1940s. Therefore, how is it 1940's? I always got the impression it was just a name change (and from an insider- it basically is at the moment)

Oh, and thanks for reminding me. You can reply to my post there if you want.

[Vashsky666]

Re: HollywoodLand?

I was under the impression that the Hollywoodland redo of Hollywood Pictures Backlot was part of a "Phase 2" plan that was not slated for the initial "Phase 1" of the rehab which would include the Carsland, WoC, Little Mermaid, and Buena Vista St stuff. But I don't know if the 1 billion dollars includes just "Phase 1" or both phases entirely.

If not, who knows if Disney will even consider approving more money since the economy has tanked so bad. If this is the case, than this "billion dollar do-over" will have to be completely over the top in terms of quality and showmanship or else it's goodbye to any chance of more money being approved for Disneyland's embarrassing young step-sister.

But perhaps the Billion dollars will include both phases and I'm wrong, I don't know. I'd like to know the answer to that question myself.

There is evidence to suggest, however, that the billion dollars will include "Phase 2" because of snippets of Hollywoodland model work that you see in the current Blue Sky Cellar Preview Center video. You can see it most evidently when they reveal the the model facade of the Hyperion Theater in a split second.

So what is it guys, any word that says that the billion dollars is going towards both phases??? If so, they don't make it very clear or at least very confusing...

[Coheteboy]

Re: HollywoodLand?

There's no way MI, DAS, TS:TM, ect belong in Hollywood 1940s. Therefore, how is it 1940's? I always got the impression it was just a name change (and from an insider- it basically is at the moment)

Oh, and thanks for reminding me. You can reply to my post there if you want.

:::big sigh:::

It's not just a name change. There's a red car involved that harkens back to the 40s. There's some plans to redesign the exterior of Hyperion Theater. A lot of the main street of the Backlot is already based loosely on old Hollywood architecture, much like it is in DHS.

With the addition of Buena Vista Street and the Carthay Circle Theater at the entrance, the rest of "Hollywoodland" is soon to follow, if all goes as planned.

None of this is really announced yet officially as it is all Expansion stage B.



Back in 2008 I saw some art from WDI that did clearly label the land as "hollywoodland". Toy Story Musical was already decided to be put into DCA as far back as 2008... perhaps earlier... they just never had a set "when" date.



EDIT: ALSO.. your argument about 1940s is flawed. Was Aerosmith around in the 40's? How many movies in the Great Movie Ride came after?

[Matterhorn Boy]

Re: HollywoodLand?

Monsters Inc.: Mike and Sulley to the Rescue
attraction was a "quick fix" overlay that cost
an substantial amount of money to incorporate
into a former attraction's layout.

The attraction's removal will more than likely will not happen.

What may happen is the attraction's exterior
would be remodeled to reflect the 1930's time period.

If they really are going to retheme the Hollywood area to the 40's, Monsters Inc, Muppets, Toy Story: The Musical and to a certain extent large parts of the animation building will all be out of place in it. The Muppets could probably be integrated into a re-do of the Great Movie Ride without breaking theme too much, provided it featured films of the period, but even that would be stretching things.

They have the right ideas about fixing this park, but it's like they can't go through with it. You can't create an effective themed period environment and then keep all of these contemporaneous trappings. If they can't realize this, they should just keep the area the way it is, confused and muddled. Because that's how it's always going to be, no matter what time period they halfheartedly attach to it.

[Coheteboy]

Re: HollywoodLand?

If they really are going to retheme the Hollywood area to the 40's, Monsters Inc, Muppets, Toy Story: The Musical and to a certain extent large parts of the animation building will all be out of place in it. The Muppets could probably be integrated into a re-do of the Great Movie Ride without breaking theme too much, provided it featured films of the period, but even that would be stretching things.

They have the right ideas about fixing this park, but it's like they can't go through with it. You can't create an effective themed period environment and then keep all of these contemporaneous trappings. If they can't realize this, they should just keep the area the way it is, confused and muddled. Because that's how it's always going to be, no matter what time period they halfheartedly attach to it.

While agree that things will be out of place... it's a lesser of the two evils by far.

Would you rather have the whole land be a "backlot" where everything is always a facade or movie studio production? Or would you want things to have at least the appearance of an older time period?

The design will be of a time period, but I don't think we can fairly ask DCA to stay in that time period with every attraction.

The Disney animation building especially would only have characters from Mickey Mouse to I dunno.. Mr. Toad or something.


Toy Story is very modern but I think it really is dependent on the outside of the theater. If it looks like we're in a theater from the 1940s, that's all I really care about as the production we're watching will always change.


The area where Muppets and Monsters is always kind of a tough one as that area is currently the real "Hollywood Studio" within the Backlot. The original idea was that Muppets were going to exit, Narnia was going to enter. Then there were the talk of Mickey's Philharmagic, but the theater space doesn't permit it.

There was also the Disney Channel live concert area... how 1940s is that? You tell me.


I think right now it is much too early to discuss what fits in and what won't. It's quite literally a long way from now and who knows, maybe Monsters Inc is done for? Maybe Muppets gets redone?

[Matterhorn Boy]

Re: HollywoodLand?

While agree that things will be out of place... it's a lesser of the two evils by far.

Would you rather have the whole land be a "backlot" where everything is always a facade or movie studio production? Or would you want things to have at least the appearance of an older time period?

If they're truly going to attempt to have this park be more like Disneyland, I'd expect something more than just changing the facades on buildings to only "appear" to be themed.

The design will be of a time period, but I don't think we can fairly ask DCA to stay in that time period with every attraction.

I'll agree with this somewhat, but as it stands other than TOT there's nothing else in the area that fits the theme. Surely something in a land themed to Hollywood of the 1940's should actually fit that theme. Is that really such a crazy thing to expect?

The Disney animation building especially would only have characters from Mickey Mouse to I dunno.. Mr. Toad or something.

And I personally don't think that's a bad idea at all. If they're trying to tie the park (And specifically this section of the park) to Walt Disney, maybe they should actually feature the animation he produced in his lifetime. Just a thought.

Why not build an omnimover attraction that takes us through a recreation of part of the Hyperion or Burbank Studios...show how they did it in the old days, and then have something at the end about how they do it today, with all of the modern Disney/Pixar characters you could shake a stick at. A compromise of period theming for all of those kids who must be entertained by cartoons that are "relevant".

Toy Story is very modern but I think it really is dependent on the outside of the theater. If it looks like we're in a theater from the 1940s, that's all I really care about as the production we're watching will always change.

Again, I don't think it's the facades that matter. I think that what's inside the buildings matters a whole lot too, especially in a themed period environment. Why would a theater in 1940's Hollywood put on a musical of Toy Story?

There was also the Disney Channel live concert area... how 1940s is that? You tell me.

Not a lick, but I always forget that's there in the first place. Add that to the list.

I think right now it is much too early to discuss what fits in and what won't. It's quite literally a long way from now and who knows, maybe Monsters Inc is done for? Maybe Muppets gets redone?

Maybe I'm jumping the gun, but I don't think the executives in charge of this have the heart to pull the plug on Monsters Inc. Maybe by the time this "Phase 2" comes to fruition they'll have the stomach to actually tear down what they've built and create something that's actually the caliber of a Disney Park.

[Ice101]

Re: HollywoodLand?

:::big sigh:::
......

And I thought I was the only one irritated by Scott's demand for respect although his knowledge is that of a slightly above average Annual Passholder's.

[WDITrent]

Re: HollywoodLand?

Hollywoodland is not in the 40s even though BVS is way back in time when Walt first visited California.

And yes, I do know about the expansion.

Be obnoxious all you want.





There's a plaque on this in DHS I remember seeing my last trip. It was a real estate company if I remember correctly!

Yes, it was obnoxious, and no, you don't know about the expansion.

And I thought I was the only one irritated by Scott's demand for respect although is knowledge is that of a slightly above average AP.

That also was a bit insensitive. I am a Northern Californian non-AP holder that visits Disneyland two to three times a year.

[Ice101]

Re: HollywoodLand?

Yes, it was obnoxious, and no, you don't know about the expansion.

) That is respectable.

That also was a bit insensitive. I am a Northern Californian non-AP holder that visits Disneyland two to three times a year.

But you aren't the average AP. The slightly above average AP, as I view it, knows about the expansion, a few rumors, but knows absolutely no details.

[Tomorrowland_1967]

Re: HollywoodLand?

1. I think there's a little misunderstanding what era The Hollywood Backlot section represents. There's more than just 1940s architecture. It's a combination of 1920s, 1930s, AND 1940s. If anything .. it's predominantly 1920s. And the Red Car dates as early as 1900. The Red Car was a prominent feature in LA for the first half of the 20th Century.

And with the retheming ... will be a new "Partners" statue when Walt arrived in Hollywood ... which was 1923.

So .. if we are going to pick a decade that is a proper "billing" for the area .. that would be 1920s.

Hence ... the 20s makeover of Sunshine Plaza.

2. Most of the Hollywood Backlot will have to wait BEYOND the proposed 2012 finish date on what is unnoficially known as "PHASE 1" of the DCA make-over plan.

Hopefully "phase 2" will gain steam .. which will tackle areas such as the warf, Grizzly Peek area, Condor Flats .. and major sections of the Hollywood Backlot area which will include the entire north section where Muppets, Monsters Inc., and everything else in that area. Not mention the be-lated plans to give the Hyperion Theater a full makeover with the waiting area enclosed into a proper lobby, along with other modifications.

[JungleCruiseFan]

Re: HollywoodLand?

But you aren't the average AP. The slightly above average AP, as I view it, knows about the expansion, a few rumors, but knows absolutely no details.

As much as I value your opinion, this thread isn't about how we feel about AP's.

*cough*scum*cough*