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    CASE STUDY: Raising the Bar in Themed Design

    As critical as I may sometimes be, I think it is worthwhile to reflect on how far things have advanced in the last fifty years of this art-form.

    This thread will be a visual comparison & examination as to how designers at WDI (and other shops) have raised the bar in park design over the last five decades, and give us a place to judge and discuss past & future projects.

    (Because Walt’s Disneyland will serve as the original benchmark or baseline, I have placed this thread in the Disneyland thread).

    I will use three (very gray) tiers in this visual examination:

    Tier III – Substandard
    . Lower than what we "expect from Disney" - due to inferior design, materials and/or craftsmanship or simple obsolescence to due to age.

    Tier II – Disney Standard. The standard quality of themed design that we have come to expect from Disney Parks.

    Tier I – Higher Standard. A quality of themed design that surpasses the Disney Standard (and what may hopefully become the new Disney standard).

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    We’ll start with the Park Icon, the Castle:

    Tier III – Substandard: Magic Castle at Lotte World Korea (b. 1989).

    Tier II – Disney Standard: Sleeping Beauty Castle (b. 1955DL, 2005HKDL); Cinderella Castle (b. 1971MK, 1983TDL)



    Tier I – Higher StandardTier III – Substandard: Original DL (b. 1955, extinct), TDL (b. 1983)




    Tier II – Disney Standard
    : HKDL (b. 2005)


    Tier I – Higher Standard: DLP (b. 1992)



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    Animated Robot

    Tier III – Substandard: – MK Space Mountain Queue


    Tier II – Disney Standard: – DL Star Tours Queue (b. 1987)


    Tier I – Higher Standard: – S.I.R. from MK Alien Encounter preshow (b. 1994, extinct)



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    Many more examples to follow.
    Last edited by RandySavage; 12-05-2009, 11:58 PM.

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    Jungle Cruise Crocs

    Tier II - Disney Standard MK (b. 1971)


    Tier I - Higher Standard HKDL (b. 2005)

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      Pooh Attraction Interiors

      Tier II - Disney Standard DL (b. 2003), MK (b. 1999), HKDL (b. 2005)


      Tier I - Higher Standard TDL (b. 2000)

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        Um. There's no robots in DL's Space Mounain queue.

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          Yeti AA & environment

          Tier III - Subtandard DL (b. 1978)


          Tier I - Higher Standard AK (b. 2006)

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            And we know that DL can make nice trees (like TDL) for Pooh.
            Splash is a great example. The trees in the ride are nice.
            Quote by Al:
            To that end I'd like the Internet community to join me in reminding the Disney company that "it all started with Walt." As you can see below we've created some T-shirts, plus a few simple graphics that you can copy and paste into your websites to let folks know how you feel.
            -Al Lutz


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              Re: Raising the Bar in Themed Design: A Case Study

              Originally posted by RandySavage View Post
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              Pooh Attraction Interiors

              Tier II - Disney Standard DL (b. 2003), MK (b. 1999), HKDL (b. 2005)


              Tier I - Higher Standard TDL (b. 2000)
              Oh my goodness. I knew the difference was extreme...but I didn't know it was this extreme. Wow. Major kudos to all those involved in the TDL version for doing a Pooh attraction right.

              I'll post more thoughts on this thread in general later, but for now, suffice it to say I'm really enjoying examining your comparisons, and I look forward to seeing more.

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                Rear of Castle

                Tier II - Disney Standard DL (b. 1955), HKDL (b. 2005)


                Tier I - Higher Standard DLP (b. 1992)
                Last edited by RandySavage; 12-05-2009, 11:58 PM.

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                  Arabian-themed area

                  Tier II - Disney Standard: MK (b. 2001)



                  Tier I - Higher Standard TDS (b. 2001)

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                    My Personal Opinion is that DLP
                    Castle is lower than Disneyland.

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                      Italian Riviera

                      Tier III - Substandard Universal Orlando (b. 1999)


                      Tier I - Higher Standard TDS (b. 2001)

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                        Randy ... hopefully you will be doing the Tomorrowlands. (Current DL, original '55, current TDL, HKDL's - substandard -- WDW's, DLP's- Disney Standard. Port Discovery, TL:67 - High Standard
                        MY SIGNATURE:
                        Dear Peoplemover Fans, If you want to see a new attraction that at least mimics the 1967 Peoplemover in a future Tomorrowland remodel, you need to write to the powers-that-be, and let them know. If you don't - Then the next time Tomorrowland is remodeled, you will see a land barren of any "Peoplemover" type attraction.

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                          wow! I love this thread. As Datameister said, the Pooh comparison is eye-opening.

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                            ^ I think the Tomorrowlands need to be evaluated & tiered piece-by-piece rather than as a whole.

                            For instance,

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                            Star Jets

                            Tier III - Substandard TDL (b. 1983)


                            Tier I - Higher Standard
                            MK (b. 1995)

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                              Skull Rock

                              Tier II - Disney Standard DL (b. 1960, extinct); TDL (b. 1983)





                              Tier I - Higher Standard DLP (b. 1992)


                              Note the lanterns in the cavern as eyes!
                              Last edited by RandySavage; 12-05-2009, 11:59 PM.

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                                I like the paris one alot, It looks like it has been weathered by a storm. I love the waterfall!
                                keep these pictures coming! XD

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                                  That makes me miss the Skull Rock of my childhood a lot! So much fun to run around in. Great at night too.

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                                    Tower of Terror Exterior

                                    Tier II - Disney Standard DCA (b. 2004), WDSP (b. 2008)



                                    Tier I - Higher Standard DHS (b. 1994), TDS (b. 2008)


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                                      nice angle of the Hotel Hightower! love the comparisons.
                                      Last edited by Casey Jr; 12-05-2009, 04:08 PM.

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                                        Philharmagic Exterior/Queue

                                        Tier II - Disney Standard MK (b. 2003)



                                        Tier I - Higher Standard HKDL (b. 2005)

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