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  • #21
    Re: Raising the Bar in Themed Design: A Case Study

    Originally posted by RandySavage View Post
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    Skull Rock

    Tier II - Disney Standard DL (b. 1960, extinct); TDL (b. 1983)





    Tier I - Higher Standard DLP (b. 1991)


    Note the lanterns in the cavern as eyes!
    The lantern eyes are cool
    but I think I actually prefer DL's
    Quote by Al:
    To that end I'd like the Internet community to join me in reminding the Disney company that "it all started with Walt." As you can see below we've created some T-shirts, plus a few simple graphics that you can copy and paste into your websites to let folks know how you feel.
    -Al Lutz


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    • #22
      Re: Raising the Bar in Themed Design: A Case Study

      I love the Hong Kong DL facade, it looks amazing, especially with all the trees giving it a false sense of big size. Hong Kong DL fantasyland is VERY charming IMO.

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      • #23
        Re: Raising the Bar in Themed Design: A Case Study

        Originally posted by DLFreak71 View Post
        The lantern eyes are cool
        but I think I actually prefer DL's
        yeah me too!

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        • #24
          Re: Raising the Bar in Themed Design: A Case Study

          Originally posted by Casey Jr View Post
          nice angle of the Highstone Manor! love the comparisons.
          Highstone Manor? What are you talking about!?

          Its the Hightower Hotel

          Although that would be one pretty big mansion

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          • #25
            Re: Raising the Bar in Themed Design: A Case Study

            woops. I think I was thinking about the ride in rct3: twilight isles.

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            • #26
              Re: Raising the Bar in Themed Design: A Case Study

              Originally posted by RandySavage View Post
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              Skull Rock

              Tier II - Disney Standard DL (b. 1960, extinct); TDL (b. 1983)



              Tier I - Higher Standard DLP (b. 1991)


              Note the lanterns in the cavern as eyes!
              I also like DL's better... I'm starting to think this thread is a tad bit bias.... But it is very interesting!


              Originally posted by RandySavage View Post
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              Jungle Cruise Crocs
              Tier I - Higher Standard HKDL (b. 2005)
              Woah! Never seen those before. Amazing.

              Originally posted by RandySavage View Post
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              Tower of Terror Exterior

              Tier II - Disney Standard DCA (b. 2004), WDSP (b. 2008)



              Tier I - Higher Standard DHS (b. 1994), TDS (b. 2008)


              I actually would rank Disneyland and DLP's TOT above DHS'. But yes, TDS' is the best.

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              • #27
                Re: Raising the Bar in Themed Design: A Case Study

                Originally posted by JungleCruiseFan View Post
                I actually would rank Disneyland and DLP's TOT above DHS'. But yes, TDS' is the best.




                Uhhh

                one hundred and one

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                • #28
                  Re: Raising the Bar in Themed Design: A Case Study

                  Originally posted by Imagineer Scott View Post




                  Uhhh
                  DHS's looks like a freaking comet hit it or something. It just does not seem very natural (by natural I mean a freak storm removing half of a hotel with just a strike of lightning )

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                  • #29
                    Re: Raising the Bar in Themed Design: A Case Study

                    Originally posted by ICe101 View Post
                    DHS's looks like a freaking comet hit it or something. It just does not seem very natural (by natural I mean a freak storm removing half of a hotel with just a strike of lightning )


                    :lol:

                    Alrighty, wharever you say.

                    one hundred and one

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                    • #30
                      Re: Raising the Bar in Themed Design: A Case Study

                      I would agree w/ most of the ratings (for the most part)
                      but the skull, Disney had it right the first time (IMO)
                      To bad it was removed
                      Quote by Al:
                      To that end I'd like the Internet community to join me in reminding the Disney company that "it all started with Walt." As you can see below we've created some T-shirts, plus a few simple graphics that you can copy and paste into your websites to let folks know how you feel.
                      -Al Lutz


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                      • #31
                        Re: Raising the Bar in Themed Design: A Case Study

                        Its sad how all of the "less standard" ones are from the US. Why is it that we can not receive the same kind of detail in our parks as in the ones out of the US. In some places yes we have amazing detailing but then you look at a part like TDS and your mouth drops in the difference. Sometimes it doesn't even look like a park but a living breathing area in its natural environment.
                        "All our dreams can come true, if we have the courage to pursue them." Walt Disney

                        Now I understand that "Blue Sky" means "No limits, nothing is a bad idea, everything is possible," along with "May never happen." But I prefer to define it this way: "Blue Sky = Hope." Unknown Author

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                        • #32
                          Re: Raising the Bar in Themed Design: A Case Study

                          There are always going to be varying opinions, so what I tried to do was cast aside my personal sense of aesthetics and objectively judge an attraction / building / feature’s superiority or inferiority by inputting quantitative, indisputable factors such as:

                          -time-adjusted cost of design & construction
                          -value of materials used
                          -size, depth and complexity of architectural design
                          -cost and technicality of special effects

                          By entering such inputs, a computer would tell us that the 2009 Bentley Flying Spur is a superior automobile to the 2009 Honda Accord, despite an individual’s personal opinion that the Honda is better.

                          I understand how some Micechatters feel that the 1960 DL skull rock or DL castle, to them on a personal or aesthetic basis, are superior to their DLP cousins. Right or wrong, that cannot be argued and it is a waste of everyone's time to try to do so.

                          What can be successfully demonstrated by the objective categories listed above is that the Paris versions of the castle and skull rock are "superior", in that they cost more (inflation-adjusted), used higher quality materials in construction, are larger, have more advanced special effects (when fully functioning), have more intricate architectural detailing, etc.

                          Again, if you personally think DL's castle is superior to DLP's, this does not make your feelings wrong, but the contrary is supported by the limited measurable data. If you can provide data that contradicts the rankings, please do.
                          Last edited by RandySavage; 12-05-2009, 05:16 PM.

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                          • #33
                            Re: Raising the Bar in Themed Design: A Case Study

                            Great thread! :clap:

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                            • #34
                              Re: Raising the Bar in Themed Design: A Case Study

                              Originally posted by Imagineer Scott View Post




                              Uhhh
                              Calm down, I just personally don't like the color and architecture of DHS' as much as DCA's.

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                              • #35
                                Re: Raising the Bar in Themed Design: A Case Study

                                Originally posted by RandySavage View Post
                                *****

                                Yeti AA & environment

                                Tier III - Subtandard DL (b. 1978)


                                Tier I - Higher Standard AK (b. 2006)
                                Too bad its been in B mode more than its ever been in A mode.

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                                • #36
                                  Re: Raising the Bar in Themed Design: A Case Study

                                  I agree with everything except the TOT comparison. I think DHS and DCA should be in the came tier, then TDS on the highest tier.

                                  Very interesting thread. Great idea.


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                                  • #37
                                    Re: Raising the Bar in Themed Design: A Case Study

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                                    Peter Pan exterior

                                    Tier III - Substandard MK (b. 1971), TDL (b. 1983)


                                    Tier I - Higher Standard DL (b. 1983), DLP (b. 1992)
                                    Last edited by RandySavage; 12-05-2009, 11:56 PM.

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                                    • #38
                                      Re: Raising the Bar in Themed Design: A Case Study

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                                      Toontown coaster

                                      Tier II - Disney Standard DL (b. 1993) TDL (b. 1996)


                                      Tier I - Higher Standard MK (b. 1996)

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                                      • #39
                                        Re: Raising the Bar in Themed Design: A Case Study

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                                        Small World exterior

                                        Tier III - Substandard MK (b. 1971)


                                        Tier II - Disney Standard DL (b. 1966), TDL (b. 1983), DLP (b. 1992), HKDL (b. 2008)

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                                        • #40
                                          Re: Raising the Bar in Themed Design: A Case Study

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                                          Pooh Attraction - Owl

                                          Tier II - Disney Standard MK (b. 1999), DL (b. 2003), HKDL (b. 2005)



                                          Tier I - Higher Standard TDL (b. 2000)
                                          Last edited by RandySavage; 12-06-2009, 12:32 AM.

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