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  • [Idea] Spaceship Earth replace Innoventions?

    So I was looking over the usual Tomorrowland rumors and ideas and thinking about all the ways the land could be fixed and whatnot and it struck me.

    Why not replace Innoventions with Spaceship Earth? It's a great omnimover ride about timetravel which is a very futuristic concept. Ontop of that it is a ride that has the same spirit as the carousel of progress.

    A move like this could create some synergy between Florida in California in that the rides could share some parts and costs as they could replicated many of the animatronics for the new version. The ride would still be fresh and different because the sets would be setup differently and the track layout would be different due to the massive differences between the buildings.

    The Innoventions building still has a rounded ceiling for the end starfield effect.

    They could also end the ride slightly earlier to avoid the boring decent part that exists now. Perhaps they could simply keep it to photoing the riders and getting their location down so they could still do that globe effect for the ending. The whole create your own future thing could be on a couple demo stations at the exit along with some games similar to the Epcot version.

    The bottum floor and half the top floor of Innoventions could be the ride with the exit continuing the huge starfield effect


    It'd be a great counterbalance for the park and an awesome people eater. They could easily invovle Honda as the sponsar and maybe even feature Asimo in it too. Or they could get a similar sponsor to the one at Epcot.

    If they pave out enough of the origional rides weaknesses they could really have another excellent darkride in the park.


    What do you guys think? Would it work? would it fit?
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  • #2
    Re: Spaceship Earth replace Innoventions?

    Not enough room. And it would require tearing down the existing Carousel building.

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    • #3
      Re: Spaceship Earth replace Innoventions?

      I would say no for several reasons. First, it's Futureworld's most iconic attractions and should only appear there. Second, it fits much better with the overall feel and theme of Epcot then it does with TL. The differences are subtle, but I tend to think that futureworld is meant to be more of a showcase of mankind's achievements, whereas Tomorrowland is more meant to stimulate your imagination to envision a more utopian future. There's a lot more looking at where we came from and where we're going in the theming of classic Epcot and there's a subtle difference in the ideal theming of TL that would make it not fit well there in my opinion. Of course, the TL theme is so lost at this point, it makes my point somewhat moot.

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      • #4
        Re: Spaceship Earth replace Innoventions?

        No. Before they do anything to steal Epcot's flagship attraction, they need to fix the finale over at WDW. And it wouldn't work. There's nothing Tomorrowland-y about the theme.

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        • #5
          Re: Spaceship Earth replace Innoventions?

          Why on Earth do you think that SSE would ever fit in the Innoventions building? Do you have any idea how large the geosphere even is?

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          • #6
            Re: Spaceship Earth replace Innoventions?

            Innoventions is sponsor city, from a business perspective I don't think that Disney would want to change what they have in there already until at least the sponsorship deals expire.

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            • #7
              Re: Spaceship Earth replace Innoventions?

              Originally posted by ryno1986 View Post
              Why on Earth do you think that SSE would ever fit in the Innoventions building? Do you have any idea how large the geosphere even is?
              Its radius is smaller than that of Innoventions - it gains volume by being taller, but the difference is still smaller than you'd imagine, I think. The Innoventions building definitely has room for a sizable attraction inside.

              That being said, I haven't been on Spaceship Earth, so I really can't say if I'd want it in Disneyland. I'd probably prefer something new.

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              • #8
                Re: Spaceship Earth replace Innoventions?

                We don't have the fairway for a Golf Ball that big out in California.

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                • #9
                  Re: Spaceship Earth replace Innoventions?

                  Although it wont fit, I like the idea. Spaceship Earth is a great ride. I wish they would put more of a ride in that spot. We need more things to do.
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                  • #10
                    Re: Spaceship Earth replace Innoventions?

                    ok well i like the idea, it sounds fun to me

                    i used to be a fan of innoventions, but after my last visit, there was nothing there and now they can put something else in it. i'm sure my brother will get over it )
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                    • #11
                      Re: Spaceship Earth replace Innoventions?

                      I agree with other posters that SSE should remain unique to Epcot but I do think that it's an interesting idea and maybe a unique attraction in the spirit of SSE would be a welcome addition to TL. Innovations just dosen't do anything for me but if DL must have some kind of edu-tainment element to it in TL than a ride would be better than the tech expo concept (Maybe an updated Adventure through Innerspace could go here?).
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                      • #12
                        Re: Spaceship Earth replace Innoventions?

                        Fitting it would be the most difficult part but lets say you used Buzz sized Omnimover vehicles rather then the huge ones in Florida and perhaps slowed down the system slightly to pass the scenes at a different pace to allow narriration to fit. It doesn't have to have the exact same scenes only a few scenes in common.

                        Keeping in mind that the last refurb largely altered then general theme which was communications and is now technology in general. You could easily do scenes similar to those featured in Epcots long missing attractions.

                        I think you could manage to make up for most of the space by making this a two level darkride. The ride in Epcot doesn't exactly reach all the way to the top since the most impressive scene in the ride is located at the peak of the track with much of the dome still towering above making a beautiful starfield effect. Almost all the ride after this is the create your own future feature that is totally cropable from the ride in general. I'd also argue most of the scenes in the Future Sphere are pushed closely together due to the unusual shape of the building.


                        I'm going to argue that this ride belongs in Tomorrowland the same way the Carousel of Progress did. The Carousel of Progress was also predominatly a showcase of man's achivements over a specific set of time and had pretty much the same optomisum about the future. If anything most of the origional Epcot tries to borrow from this Tomorrowland attraction.


                        Besides the current Tomorrowland is more of a scifi experience then anything else and we already have spaceships done three times over and shrinking is going out of style . Time travel is really the only type of interesting vehicle the future has left.
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                          Originally posted by Mike_M View Post
                          I agree with other posters that SSE should remain unique to Epcot but I do think that it's an interesting idea and maybe a unique attraction in the spirit of SSE would be a welcome addition to TL. Innovations just dosen't do anything for me but if DL must have some kind of edu-tainment element to it in TL than a ride would be better than the tech expo concept (Maybe an updated Adventure through Innerspace could go here?).
                          Haha I suppose its fair enough.

                          I can totally understand were it strikes people as wrong to copy what is probably the last vestige of the origional Epcot. I'm actually pretty amazed that Spaceship Earth is still Epcot's signature ride given how much Disney pushes Test Track/Mission Space or the massive popularity of Soarin.

                          I personally think it'd be great to see the Future Sphere given the praise it deserves as a franchisable ride . Also I suppose I'm confident that while the theme is copyable and repeatable along with a few of the scenes. Most of the ride would never clone over exactly making the Epcot rendition the longer one of the two with the most impressive midway point.

                          That said I do think an impressive version of most of the scenes could be replicated in Anihiem along with the more genearl theme being performed in a stronger fashion.

                          It's truely sad that Spaceship Earth is now left to carry much of the weight of its fallen brothers (World of Motion, and I'm not sure how similar Horizens was).
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                          • #14
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                            I'd love to see a photoshop of how Spaceship Earth would dominate the Disneyland skyline.

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                            • #15
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                              Isn't Spaceship Earth as big as the Matterhorn or even bigger? I think it would overpower the Matterhorn, Space Mountain, and SBC. I do love that ride though.

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                                Re: Spaceship Earth replace Innoventions?

                                Originally posted by HSM Fans View Post
                                Isn't Spaceship Earth as big as the Matterhorn or even bigger? I think it would overpower the Matterhorn, Space Mountain, and SBC. I do love that ride though.
                                I'm sure that if they actually built the sphere at DL, they would build the foundation quite a bit lower than Innovations is currently (like they did with Space mtn & Splash Mtn) so that it would not be easily visable to the rest of the park. It's location though would give an interesting new focal point as you entered TL from the Hub (Almost like a futuristic version of looking down Main Street at SBC).
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                                  Re: Spaceship Earth replace Innoventions?

                                  Originally posted by Mike_M View Post
                                  I'm sure that if they actually built the sphere at DL, they would build the foundation quite a bit lower than Innovations is currently (like they did with Space mtn & Splash Mtn) so that it would not be easily visable to the rest of the park. It's location though would give an interesting new focal point as you entered TL from the Hub (Almost like a futuristic version of looking down Main Street at SBC).
                                  Yep, think like Soarin.

                                  Though I'd also argue a teardown isn't the only way to go about things.

                                  Nothing says that the ride has to strictly remain a sphere or anything. In fact a few scenes might do better with more even leveling. Granted then you lose the whole progressing forwards in time as you travel upwards deal . Nothing stops Disney from hollowing out the current building and tunneling down.

                                  It's not like the rides need to have identical track just related scenes that share some parts/ideas. Even that could be optional though, if there were still left over parts from WoM they could combine some of that in (granted I perfer the Spaceship Earth expereince to the vague memories I have of WoM).
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                                  • #18
                                    Re: Spaceship Earth replace Innoventions?

                                    Cool idea. But I agree with most of the people. It should stay a Futureworld exclusive.
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                                    • #19
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                                      I think if Spaceship Earth did come to DLR it should be as the centerpiece of a third park. As far as replacing innoventions, I'd rather it be rplaced with Mission:Space.
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                                      • #20
                                        Re: Spaceship Earth replace Innoventions?

                                        Originally posted by CaliforniaAdventurer View Post
                                        We don't have the fairway for a Golf Ball that big out in California.
                                        I believe in the Sleeping Beauty Castle thread someone mentioned the castle looking like it belongs in a mini-golf course...

                                        Originally posted by Syndrome View Post
                                        I think if Spaceship Earth did come to DLR it should be as the centerpiece of a third park. As far as replacing innoventions, I'd rather it be rplaced with Mission:Space.
                                        No pavilion should be copied to another park.

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