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  • Re: Can we get some real entertainment?

    Sorry, I just went through the first two pages of this extravaganza. But I wonder what makes someone like the AP holder going on a Wednesday in January feel as if they should be a full menu of parades and shows the same as a visitor in the summer.

    Back in the land before time, and/or AP's, they used to call it...the "off-season".
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    • Re: Can we get some real entertainment?

      dont bands count?
      because i could spend my day listening to the various bands unless theres a off season for them
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      • Re: Can we get some real entertainment?

        Originally posted by ICe101 View Post
        I find that to be so wrong. When you don't compare Disneyland to anything, then all that you can believe is that Disneyland is always doing good. Disneyland needs to be compared to others in order for it to stay top-notch.
        Again, that is YOUR opinion and a need of YOURS. I myself do not need some other resort to decide for myself if what DL does or doesn't do is good in my eyes. I have no doubt others would agree with me, and still others with you. What "side" the majority is on we may never know but you make your statements as if it is some sort of law and everyone else should just accept it as a fact. YOU may need other examples for yourself to hold up next to DLR for comparisen, I don't. Also, as explained several times, IMO, your basis for comparisen is flawed as many factors come into play making any comparisen results between DLR and the other Disney resorts very dubious at best.

        Originally posted by ICe101 View Post
        If it doesn't then we start to buy into the cheap, low quality stuff that Disneyland puts out like Celebrate A Street Party. I dare Disney to though that show into Disneyland Paris or Tokyo Disneyland. Would they ever do such a thing there? Absolutely not, so what is the difference with Disneyland? NOTHING.
        AGAIN, you state your personal opinion as if it were a proven fact. You have no idea what the other resorts may or may not do in the future. You also refer to the Street Party example as if it was a unanamous forgone conclusion that there is something wrong with it. That is your opinion that it is somehow not worthy of DLR and it's guests (again because rather than looking at it as "does it work well for DLR" you insist on looking at it as "would it be something other parks do?"). For now, it works there and appears to be pretty well accepted. Is it the same as what Paris and Tokyo have right at this moment? Nope. You know why? Because DL is not in Paris or Tokyo.

        Originally posted by ICe101 View Post
        Disneyland is being cheap. And their is no difference in culture/economy or anything else big enough to make Disneyland seem up to par with the other resorts.
        I hope you are not actually trying to argue here that society/culture in Japan or France is no different than in California, I am hoping I'm misreading that statement. Setting that aside, my example of differences in culture was mostly pointing out why those places may not have a "down season" like DLR does here in the states and thus do not follow the same pattern of down time and refurbs that DLR does. The cultural differences DO also have an influence over the type of entertainment offered at those other resorts though. If you think differently then you really need to do some social studies research.

        Originally posted by ICe101 View Post
        I can't believe you don't want to compare DL to even WDW.
        ...And I can't believe you DO want to compare them and still expect to have any crediblity in this discussion. The core debate here is the amount of entertainment offered at DLR and your caviet of "compared to other resorts" attached to it and you actually think is a proper and credible comparisen to hold up another resort that is easily 3 times larger than DLR. Seriously? Is that what you concider a fair and credible comparisen? WDW offers more entertainment than DLR everyone! DLR must be being cheap because this other resort with 3 times the number of hotels and parks offers more entertainment than it does. Wow, just wow.

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        • Re: Can we get some real entertainment?

          Originally posted by Radiobarry View Post
          Sorry, I just went through the first two pages of this extravaganza. But I wonder what makes someone like the AP holder going on a Wednesday in January feel as if they should be a full menu of parades and shows the same as a visitor in the summer.

          Back in the land before time, and/or AP's, they used to call it...the "off-season".
          Another poster addressed this somewhere here. Being an AP holder myself who comes during the off season, I go knowing full well I wont be getting a full offering of attractions/shows, but I a going so I can have fun with what is offered with the bonus that crowds will be lighter than peak season when everything is offered, but you stand in line for most of it.

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          • Re: Can we get some real entertainment?

            Originally posted by Goofy Daddy View Post
            Another poster addressed this somewhere here. Being an AP holder myself who comes during the off season, I go knowing full well I wont be getting a full offering of attractions/shows, but I a going so I can have fun with what is offered with the bonus that crowds will be lighter than peak season when everything is offered, but you stand in line for most of it.
            I also prefer the off-season for the same reasons. I think you made some excellent points in this thread that I agree with, Goofy Daddy.

            I think there's been some contradictions in this thread in that the original poster claimed Disneyland needs to be treated as something unique and independent, yet at the same time wants to compare it to every other Disney park around the world directly. Am I wrong?

            I think what we can come away with in these arguments is that it's certainly not a "fact" that DLR's live entertainment isn't plentiful right now, but purely just one person's opinion, since it's a complete variable to determine what "enough" actually is in the context of DLR itself for 2009-2010.

            Maybe the OP can get some head-way on his argument though if he can list a time in Disneyland's history when they had lots of large, complex, live entertainment during the off-season. And even if they did, it probably wasn't during an economic recession. But I think most of us agree with the OP that the Fantasyland Theater is kind of being wasted right now.
            Last edited by scorsese; 12-27-2009, 07:58 PM.

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            • Re: Can we get some real entertainment?

              Originally posted by scorsese View Post
              I also prefer the off-season for the same reasons. I think you made some excellent points in this thread that I agree with, Goofy Daddy.
              Well, thanks!

              Originally posted by scorsese View Post
              I think there's been some contradictions in this thread in that the original poster claimed Disneyland needs to be treated as something unique and independent, yet at the same time wants to compare it to every other Disney park around the world directly. Am I wrong?
              I'm not sure about that. Unless I have misread, the OP and some who have supported their view on this thread appear to have a stance not that DLR should be unique, but rather that they should do things just like "the other parks". I jumped into the fray and voiced the reasons I don't think that is a good idea and stated why. In addition to that if you look at each park you will see they do not do things the same as other resorts either. ALL of them share some common attractions and the over all Disney Brand but they ALL have different approaches to entertainment and guest relations and seasonal schedules.

              Originally posted by scorsese View Post
              I think what we can come away with in these arguments is that it's certainly not a "fact" that DLR's live entertainment isn't plentiful right now, but purely just one person's opinion, since it's a complete variable to determine what "enough" actually is in the context of DLR itself for 2009-2010.
              I can agree with that but I would also add that even if there was a consensus that DLR needed some improvement in the Entertainment aspect of the resort, though other resorts might be a place to look at as possible ideas, it is not an automatic "do it like they do" fix as the OP seems to be saying.

              Originally posted by scorsese View Post
              Maybe the OP can get some head-way on his argument though if he can list a time in Disneyland's history when they had lots of large, complex, live entertainment during the off-season. And even if they did, it probably wasn't during an economic recession. But I think most of us agree with the OP that the Fantasyland Theater is kind of being wasted right now.
              IMO that would not really be headway...that would be looking backwards. DLR was different back then so what they did then and what they can/should do now are not nessisarily compatable anymore. In the past, if memory serves, DL did offer everything (or as much as they could) even during the off season however they would be closed during weekdays and operate shorter hours during those slow times.

              Personally I agree with SOME of the OPs points. DLR could improve on its use of some of their spaces that are being either misused or not used at all. They are making poor choices here and there with other venues (such as the recent rumor of the Billy Hill shows being cut by ten minutes). I agree improvement can be made around the DLR.

              I do disagree with personal opinions being offered as if they were proven facts that everyone should just know and agree with. Things like certain shows or parades are bad and would never be accepted in one place or another or that other parks do it this way and DLR doesn't so they are cheap. Those are personal opinions, which are welcome here of course, if they are delivered in that way, not as if it were some gospel carved in stone.

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              • Re: Can we get some real entertainment?

                im not sure if anyone mentioned this already but, what happened to Aladdins Oasis??? i was a kid when i last saw it but i remeber it was a dinner and a show kinda thing.

                i never payed attention to when it closed..did the DCA aladdin show have anything to do with it closing?

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                • Re: Can we get some real entertainment?

                  Originally posted by DizneyMonstro View Post
                  im not sure if anyone mentioned this already but, what happened to Aladdins Oasis??? i was a kid when i last saw it but i remeber it was a dinner and a show kinda thing.

                  i never payed attention to when it closed..did the DCA aladdin show have anything to do with it closing?
                  They use the front door area now for Jasmine/Aladdin meet and greets but the small show area inside is unused as far as I know. They could put a medium sized show there, about the size of the Billys show. Yeah that is one of the under utilized spots to be sure.

                  As far as the why and if the Hyperion show had anything to do with it I sure don't know.

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                  • Re: Can we get some real entertainment?

                    We LOVED Animazement and ALWAYS made it a point to see it when it was running. We saw it many , many times and it was wonderful. Snow White was next and not very good at all.

                    Animazement was the last truly GREAT stage show at Disneyland IMO and it is truly missed.

                    If I remember correctly though, there were those who criticized it at the time of it's running. I guess there will always be those who don't appreciate a good thing and will find something bad to say about it. They of course were on "another" mouse thread type planet site though and NOT Mice Chat. Mice Chat is the ONLY site with credibility IMO.

                    I have many pictures of live Animazement and it always brings a smile to my heart when I view them.

                    Bring Back Animazement!!
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                    • Re: Can we get some real entertainment?

                      Disneyland does not need to spend extra on entertainment because of the huge numbers that flock to the park year round.
                      I am surprised they set off fireworks during the off season weekends, it was back in the day, that the fireworks ended labor Day weekend until the next summer, with the exception of during Christmas.
                      Disneyland used to have a lot of special entertainment during the off season to lure people into the park, State Fair and Circus Fantasy come to mind, plus the had named entertainment, I remember watching Cheep Trick perform out on the River Stage on TSI. known named groups on the TLT stage, Big Bands were also a long time staple.
                      But remember, the park used to close at 6 p.m during the week, Monday through Friday, Saturday till 10 maybe 11 and Sunday at 9.
                      Park attendance during the week during the winter would run from 6000 to maybe 15000 on a good day. Saturday, 35000-50000 and Sunday, 25000 to 30000, so giving something extra was a way of boosting attendance.
                      Now Friday through Sunday it is summer time year round, and the mid-week crowds would rival the weekend crowds back in the 80's.
                      So the bottom line is why if you are Disney would you spend the extra money on entertainment when the people are going to show up in droves anyway?
                      Answer: your not

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