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The Long-Forgotten Haunted Mansion Effect Thread 7: Further Realms of Fright

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  • Originally posted by Grinning Ghost View Post

    The playback speed is slower at WDW on those two tracks. The same foyer organ recording is used in all three Mansions. The music room piano is also the same as the one in Tokyo, but they corrected the playback speed there.
    Ah okay. Well, I hope they leave it that way. Another difference I’ve noticed from watching videos of the Tokyo mansion is that the load area music continues until the conservatory. I think that the slightly slowed organ track sounds a little more ominous during the portrait hall and library scenes, but that may just be because I distinctly remember riding through the WDW portrait hall with the sinister 11 staring at me with glowing red eyes and the organ track in the background when I was 6 or 7 years old. I’m still upset about the relocation of the sinister 11 for that reason.

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    • Interesting tweet on the Tokyo Haunted Mansion from Marc Sasaki's #TDRHistory posts. The Tokyo Haunted Mansion's main reason for being in Fantasyland was that it was kicked out of Westernland so they could have the space to build Big Thunder Mountain as a Phase 2 project.

      https://twitter.com/MarcSasaki/statu...02835230244864
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      • The happy haunts have received your sympathetic vibrations, and are beginning to materialize...

        They're assembling for a..."swinging" wake...and they'll be expecting ME...

        I'll see you ALL...a little laterrr...

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        • BTW only one pop-up ghost in the graveyard was working. Just One Ghost...

          The opera singers were still missing. I suppose that's because It Ain't Over Till The Fat Lady Sings...

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          • Originally posted by FoxxFur View Post

            It's definitely going to look weird for a bit until WDI is able to go in and balance everything, but once they're done, it should look exactly the same. The WDW stretch room has been LED since it was redone in 2007, and it looks fine - honestly, probably better than the florescent tubes ever did. I believe the Ballroom has also been mostly LED since then too. MK Pirates has been LED-only for several years now and you'd never know.

            Last I heard, and honestly I'm very out of the loop on this, WDI has still not been pleased with the way that LEDs look when they are run through a flicker circuit, so much of the practical lights in the Mansion should remain incandescent for now. I'm not sure if this has changed recently, but they would definitely need to bring the show down if they were planning on switching all of those flickering lights over to LEDs, which is why they're messing about with the general fill lights instead.
            The Ballroom went LED only in the last couple years, ever since about 2016 or so the whole ride has been in a gradual transition of being upgraded to all LEDs... The exterior lighting was the first they did right before that year's MNSSHP IIRC. You are correct about the "flicker circuit theory," which is why stuff like the Caretaker's lantern and hallway light fixtures remain incandescent.

            The Attic portraits are still the same as they were, no new upgrades there. And Little Leota has also always been a standard definition digital video projection, even though she did get a new projector about a year ago or so. Constance also got a new projector recently, and the carpet will gradually be replaced inside the ride as well. The Library will eventually glow like Tokyo's (probably for WDW's 50th). And the drapes covering the new portraits in the Gallery are to obscure the recently-installed camera system.

            ALSO... Thought it was worth mentioning since no one else did, legendary servant Ginger Honetur passed away about a week ago or so, as some of you may already know. May she Rest in Peace.

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            • Originally posted by Grinning Ghost View Post

              The playback speed is slower at WDW on those two tracks. The same foyer organ recording is used in all three Mansions. The music room piano is also the same as the one in Tokyo, but they corrected the playback speed there.
              The Foyer Organ in Florida is actually slightly different, the one note at the end "hangs on" for a bit. Guess they dragged it out to make it loop like they did with the Attic Piano.

              The Music Room piano WAS at the correct playback speed after the ReHaunting in '07, but they changed it shortly after to match the lower-key Foyer Organ. Def has a more sinister sound to it.

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              • What do we know about the wallpaper in the Conservatory? Does anyone have a good shot of it (specifically for making a wallpaper-tile jpeg)?

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                • Originally posted by Kreepy Karl View Post
                  What do we know about the wallpaper in the Conservatory? Does anyone have a good shot of it (specifically for making a wallpaper-tile jpeg)?
                  Here's the only copy I have.

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                  On another note, the new photo opp at Walt Disney World's Haunted Mansion has recently debuted in the Portrait Gallery as the 13th attraction to feature a photo opp (Get it guys? 13th?) and looks, to put it as PC as possible, f*ing awful. There isn't much media of it out there yet, but the recent videos look atrocious. The flash coming from behind the Knight and Medusa (whose curtains hide the new cameras that are part of the system) is disproportionately brighter than the lightning coming from the windows or behind the portraits, is not synced up with the lightning, and on the rare occasions it inadvertently does, is still much brighter than the strobes, even with the upgraded LED portraits! This all occurs literally RIGHT AFTER the Ghost Host remarks, "No flash pictures, please!"

                  https://disneyparks.disney.go.com/bl...unted-mansion/

                  https://www.instagram.com/p/Bv6wiF1n...on_share_sheet

                  https://youtu.be/CuSQEqftynw?t=10

                  I know it's an unpopular opinion around here, but I didn't mind Pepe Le Queue and the new HitchHikers that much. They're fun additions I guess, but I could take it or leave it and people have legitimate grievances with it that I think are totally valid criticisms. But THIS on the other hand, this is indefensible! They aren't even TRYING to preserve the aesthetic and atmosphere of the attraction anymore, it lights up the entire hallway like an iPhone flash, and is visible all the way from the Music Room!

                  WDI, plz get your sh*t together.
                  Last edited by Scream! Or Sugar?; 04-07-2019, 08:56 AM.

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                  • My natural inclination with new stuff like this is to give them a little time to fine-tune the thing. Maybe (and only maybe) they can coordinate the flash with the lightning a little more naturally, and (less likely) decide they don't need such a brilliant flash to get the picture. But yeah, this doesn't look good right now. At least DL looks safe for the moment. They wouldn't be able to do a photo op during the walk-thru portion of the ride, which is where the lightning is, and I can't think offhand of any other place where the flash wouldn't be totally gratuitous and out of place.
                    "My mental facilities are twice what yours are, pea brain!"

                    The conversation continues at Long-Forgotten, the blog.



                    ......... .....May April March!.....................

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                    • Originally posted by HBG2 View Post
                      My natural inclination with new stuff like this is to give them a little time to fine-tune the thing. Maybe (and only maybe) they can coordinate the flash with the lightning a little more naturally, and (less likely) decide they don't need such a brilliant flash to get the picture. But yeah, this doesn't look good right now. At least DL looks safe for the moment. They wouldn't be able to do a photo op during the walk-thru portion of the ride, which is where the lightning is, and I can't think offhand of any other place where the flash wouldn't be totally gratuitous and out of place.
                      Update: Apparently the new system wasn't designed to sync up with the lightning at all. Maintenance can't do anything, it's all under the thumb of WDI to properly tune it. If they WERE to sync it up with the lightning we'd need an entirely new audio track for the Gallery thunder being that the flash goes off more often than the strobes in the windows do. I wish they'd just turn it back off, it's really ruining the Mansion for me. And it's not like there aren't cameras which are capable of capturing images under low light, especially if it's going to be in a stationary spot. Open that shutter real wide!

                      And honestly, I wouldn't count on Disneyland being safe from this crap. Instagram is already lighting up with "#HauntedMansionPhotoPass" posts and there's plenty of young-ins who defend it and describe the flash as not distracting at all. Peep the Disney Parks blog post, zero negative comments. Corporate is creaming themselves over this reaction, it's what they YEARN for, what makes you so sure that in Instagram central California the House is safe from this? Based on what you've seen in Florida thus far, do you really think that WDI cares whether or not something looks gratuitous and out of place? They'll probably end up putting one in the HitchHiking Ghosts scene (where it SHOULD'VE been to start with).

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                      • Phantom Manor reopening has been dated to May 3.


                        Tom Fitzgerald presentation of some of the updates:
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                        • …So basically, Phantom Manor has gotten Constance. Not only has she gone mad, demanding that the guests marry her in quite the same voice as Constance at the end of the ride (complete with psycho laughter), but she now has four or five suitors, all of them murderd — though by the Phantom (confirmed to be Henry Ravenswood; he has an Aging Man-style Changing Portrait to himself now, too) rather than Melanie herself, of course.

                          Wheeee.

                          Also, I need you Forgottenistas' help. It may be a little outside your area of expertise, but.

                          See, this clip has been going around:

                          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bQDRKTNgbek

                          Featuring a nice variation on Grim Grinning Ghosts, it purports to be from a 1994 Disneyland Paris edition of the Feel the Magic Show, and features a live appearance by the Phantom and Melanie (the clip is somewhat infamous for the fact that, in PM's version of the Master Gracey Heresy, it supports the idea of the Phantom being romantically interested in Melanie, as opposed to being an obsessively protective father).

                          Weird thing is, the Internet is telling me that Feel the Magic wasn't brought to Disneyland Paris until 1997, and has no records of any Phantom Manor bit being in it.

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                          • Originally posted by Thaddeus Twain View Post
                            So basically, Phantom Manor has gotten Constance. Not only has she gone mad, demanding that the guests marry her in quite the same voice as Constance at the end of the ride (complete with psycho laughter), but she now has four or five suitors, all of them murderd — though by the Phantom (confirmed to be Henry Ravenswood; he has an Aging Man-style Changing Portrait to himself now, too) rather than Melanie herself, of course.
                            The Constance saga is Tom Fitzgerald's baby so I can't say I am that shocked.

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                              • Originally posted by HMF View Post
                                The Constance saga is Tom Fitzgerald's baby so I can't say I am that shocked.
                                Exactly.

                                They may also have been feeling some pressure to make Melanie less of a totally hapless victim. After all, the illness that eventually doomed "We wants the Redhead" at POTC is probably the same one that already gave us "She wants a red head" at the HM nearly a decade and a half ago. Now, a milder strain of the same virus may have crossed the Atlantic.

                                Also, the PM will have more of a HM ambiance than it used to have. Possibly this is due to a puzzling, irrational, but apparently irresistible drive at WDI to homogenize the rides, such as we have seen in the unnecessary Disneylandification of the Orlando HM, a phenomenon which Foxxy has well-chronicled and well-lamented at the Passport to Dreams blog. Here again, a milder strain of the same virus seems to have crossed the Atlantic.

                                But not the Pacific. Thankfully, Tokyo seems to be inoculated against these nasty bugs and has the legal luxury of extending a bony finger to any such wayward impulses.
                                "My mental facilities are twice what yours are, pea brain!"

                                The conversation continues at Long-Forgotten, the blog.



                                ......... .....May April March!.....................

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                                • New post up at Long-Forgotten.
                                  "My mental facilities are twice what yours are, pea brain!"

                                  The conversation continues at Long-Forgotten, the blog.



                                  ......... .....May April March!.....................

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                                  • Originally posted by FigmentJedi View Post
                                    Interesting tweet on the Tokyo Haunted Mansion from Marc Sasaki's #TDRHistory posts. The Tokyo Haunted Mansion's main reason for being in Fantasyland was that it was kicked out of Westernland so they could have the space to build Big Thunder Mountain as a Phase 2 project.

                                    https://twitter.com/MarcSasaki/statu...02835230244864
                                    This makes sense and it invalidates another "fun fact" that doens't really make sense and appears to just be a fabrication: That it was placed in Fantasyland because in Japan ghost stories are fantasy. There is a difference between fantasy and fairytales, and I believe that in Japan the HM is just as out of place in Fantasyland as it would be anywhere. Japan has a big tradition of horror, so the original reason given does not really make sense. Thanks for the insight!

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                                    • There's a lot more fun than fact in a LOT of Disney "fun facts."
                                      "My mental facilities are twice what yours are, pea brain!"

                                      The conversation continues at Long-Forgotten, the blog.



                                      ......... .....May April March!.....................

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                                      • Originally posted by HBG2 View Post
                                        Also, the PM will have more of a HM ambiance than it used to have. Possibly this is due to a puzzling, irrational, but apparently irresistible drive at WDI to homogenize the rides, such as we have seen in the unnecessary Disneylandification of the Orlando HM, a phenomenon which Foxxy has well-chronicled and well-lamented at the Passport to Dreams blog. Here again, a milder strain of the same virus seems to have crossed the Atlantic.
                                        Speaking of which, there's reports from CM previews that the refurb replaced some of Phantom Manor's original arrangements with regular Haunted Mansion music, including the Ballroom.
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                                        • Phantom Manor seems to be in soft openings, the Vincent Price narration's back and some new effects are peppered throughout. Music was definitely changed in a few places which sucks.
                                           

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