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The Long-Forgotten Haunted Mansion Effect Thread 7: Further Realms of Fright

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  • Has any reason been discovered for the removal of the "La-La" track at Disneyland in 1976? It seems strange it got removed so early on while Florida kept their's until the Re-Haunting and Tokyo has actually made that track one of the most prominent Graveyard tracks.

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    • Whatever the specific reason was seems la-la-long forgotten.
      "My mental facilities are twice what yours are, pea brain!"

      The conversation continues at Long-Forgotten, the blog.



      ......... .....May April March!.....................

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      • Has anyone come to a consensus on how the hatbox effect is achieved today? I've noticed two light sources that seem to be at a distance to project a 3D image on maybe a curved glass screen within the box itself, facing our direction... sort of like the 3DS screens but on a curved surface? Or is it just something else that gives the head dimensionality? Or am I just late to the party?

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        • Originally posted by GameNBurger View Post
          Has anyone come to a consensus on how the hatbox effect is achieved today? I've noticed two light sources that seem to be at a distance to project a 3D image on maybe a curved glass screen within the box itself, facing our direction... sort of like the 3DS screens but on a curved surface? Or is it just something else that gives the head dimensionality? Or am I just late to the party?
          Yeah, it didn't take long to figure him out. Here's what I wrote about it in a comment at the LF blog:

          The head on the shoulders is a molded face, like a mask, with a rear-projected image and real hair on the two sides. As the projector switches off, the face drops down and back between the shoulders, turtle-like. It's too dark inside his collar there to see anything once it's down, as everything's painted black (the "black art well" trick). Some of the youtube videos are in slow motion, and you can plainly see the head shooting back. As it does so, a spotlight comes on that plays down the front from the shoulders to the knees (approximately) before breaking up. If you happen to detect the face's withdrawal (or even if you don't), the face and that spotlight seem to be one and the same thing, giving the illusion that his face mysteriously transports through his body. It's ingenious that if perchance you notice the face withdrawing, it looks like it's part of the show.

          The hatbox is classic Yale Gracey-type trickery. Most of the front is taken up with a window composed of scrim (?) or something like it. A two-way mirror bisects the interior. What looks to the eye like the back half of the interior is simply the front half reflected. The face is right behind the mirror, and when it lights up, you can see it (exactly like the original HHG mirror gag). Because outside of the lit-up face the mirror is still functioning as a mirror, it looks for all the world like the head is floating in three-dimensional space in the center.
          Additional observations have only strengthened this explanation, so I stand by it as firmly as ever.
          "My mental facilities are twice what yours are, pea brain!"

          The conversation continues at Long-Forgotten, the blog.



          ......... .....May April March!.....................

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          • Hatbox Ghost easter egg in the updated Autopia queue as part of their "ASIMO and his pet robot bird go on a roadtrip" story.

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            • Originally posted by HBG2 View Post

              Yeah, it didn't take long to figure him out. Here's what I wrote about it in a comment at the LF blog:



              Additional observations have only strengthened this explanation, so I stand by it as firmly as ever.
              Interestingly enough, either the face in the hatbox is also projected onto a head, or I was seeing things, but on my last ride through there was just a blank face in there, similar to how the face looks when the projection and head motion desyncs.

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              • It's rear-projected, like the one on his shoulders.
                "My mental facilities are twice what yours are, pea brain!"

                The conversation continues at Long-Forgotten, the blog.



                ......... .....May April March!.....................

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                • Originally posted by HBG2 View Post
                  It's rear-projected, like the one on his shoulders.
                  Good, I wasn't just seeing things after all.

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                  • The lower-rear of the hatbox has a bulky, boxy projection, no doubt necessary to house the projector that projects the face. It shows up clearly in this officially-released photo:

                    "My mental facilities are twice what yours are, pea brain!"

                    The conversation continues at Long-Forgotten, the blog.



                    ......... .....May April March!.....................

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                    • That makes sense, I actually forgot all about that video.

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                      • Originally posted by FigmentJedi View Post
                        Hatbox Ghost easter egg in the updated Autopia queue as part of their "ASIMO and his pet robot bird go on a roadtrip" story.

                        Nice catch.
                        "My mental facilities are twice what yours are, pea brain!"

                        The conversation continues at Long-Forgotten, the blog.



                        ......... .....May April March!.....................

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                        • Eddie Sotto posted a previously unknown (?) concept art for the Jean Lafitte / HM Mega Theme on his personal Twitter account:

                          https://twitter.com/boss_angeles/sta...99345739804672
                          Last edited by DRF; 03-29-2017, 01:28 AM.

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                          • Originally posted by DRF View Post
                            Eddie Sotto posted a previously unknown (?) concept art for the Jean Lafitte / HM Mega Theme on his personal Twitter account:

                            https://twitter.com/boss_angeles/sta...99345739804672
                            VERY cool. I've added that to the popular "Jean Lafitte" post at LF.
                            "My mental facilities are twice what yours are, pea brain!"

                            The conversation continues at Long-Forgotten, the blog.



                            ......... .....May April March!.....................

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                            • Wander into The Haunted Mansion in Disneyland's New Orleans Square and you will now notice a small addition to its winding queue. Tucked in the back corner

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                              • Interesting. Possibly covers a CM phone or stores MaxPass scanning equipment?
                                "In Hell, everybody loves popcorn."

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