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  • #61
    Re: Third Park to be Marvel Theme?

    Originally posted by toonaspie View Post
    To me, this would be the best approach to a Marvel park. However Disney would still have several issues on their hands. The first being that Disney would be criticize for having a park that seems more in design with DCA 1.0. Fans would be outraged and would feel that Disney is selling out their brand for lower grade Six Flags style theme park approach.

    The second problem might be even bigger: if the Marvel Park is going to be on DLR property, Disney will want guests to pay the same price to go this park as they do for DL and DCA. I don't think there is anyway that a Marvel thrill park would warrant the same high admission prices as the other two Disney parks. The ticket prices would have to be the same as for any local Six Flags-like thrill park or close enough if they are to win over thrill park guests on a frequent basis.
    I know that universal and six flags have brought out the conception that the only way to do a comic book based area is to throw roller coasters in a park and call it a day. But there is WAY more you can do with the Marvel Universe that goes beyond just thrill rides. I have no doubt in my mind that it can appeal to every aspect of the family

    As far as admission would go I could see DLR offering tiered pricing. 1day 1 park, 1 day 2 park (your choice of parks), or the 1 day 3 park option. you could then do 3 day 1 park tickets and that would increase the amount of time families stay on property which in turn increases the amount of money they spend while there. or you could even offer a special vacation 3 day parkhopper. You could even use that same model in regards to Annual Passes
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    • #62
      Re: Third Park to be Marvel Theme?

      Originally posted by Malin View Post
      According to the Hollywood Reporter only 24% of the audience that watched the Avengers on opening Weekend were Families. I don't see how building a park themed specifically to Marvel is going to appeal to the Disneyland fanbase.
      doesnt mean anything without real statistics

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      • #63
        Re: Third Park to be Marvel Theme?

        I understand why people would hesitate at the thought of a Marvel theme park. The only example is Marvel Superhero Island at Islands of Adventure. That's a rather poor example though because that area and its attractions are based around the super-outdated Marvel cartoons of the 1990's. If Disney were to build this park, I'm hoping they would base the theme around the comic books, not the movies or tv shows.

        Sure it might feature roller coasters and thrill rides not seen in any disney park before, but don't assume it will be like Six Flags Magic Mountain or Knotts. If anything, it would be like Islands of Adventure but with even more immersive theming. Intense y'all!

        I, for one, am looking forward to seeing this rumored third park come into fruition.

        Today, I feel like driving through a cursed temple, taking a tour of a haunted antebellum mansion, plunging down a waterfall in a hollowed-out log, bobsledding down a famous swiss mountain, traveling through the darkest recesses of space, and watching fireworks explode over a fantastical castle.

        Yeah, that sounds fun.

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        • #64
          Re: Third Park to be Marvel Theme?

          Originally posted by toonaspie View Post
          To me, this would be the best approach to a Marvel park. However Disney would still have several issues on their hands. The first being that Disney would be criticize for having a park that seems more in design with DCA 1.0. Fans would be outraged and would feel that Disney is selling out their brand for lower grade Six Flags style theme park approach.
          Why would you assume they would take the Six Flags approach? Their current track record with Cars Land is anything but. Why couldn’t they do an incredibly immersively themed park with a mix of thrilling E-Tickets as well as some family friendly dark rides. There are numerous storylines they could adapt to a great dark ride on the scale of Pirates. This would also be a great place to put in the Ant-Man version of Innerspace. There are endless possibilities that do not involve a plywood face on the side of a coaster.

          Originally posted by toonaspie View Post
          The second problem might be even bigger: if the Marvel Park is going to be on DLR property, Disney will want guests to pay the same price to go this park as they do for DL and DCA. I don't think there is anyway that a Marvel thrill park would warrant the same high admission prices as the other two Disney parks.
          Again if it is done to the standard of the other Disney parks, there is no reason that it shouldn’t cost the same as the others.
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          • #65
            Re: Third Park to be Marvel Theme?

            Originally posted by toonaspie View Post
            To me, this would be the best approach to a Marvel park. However Disney would still have several issues on their hands. The first being that Disney would be criticize for having a park that seems more in design with DCA 1.0. Fans would be outraged and would feel that Disney is selling out their brand for lower grade Six Flags style theme park approach.

            The second problem might be even bigger: if the Marvel Park is going to be on DLR property, Disney will want guests to pay the same price to go this park as they do for DL and DCA. I don't think there is anyway that a Marvel thrill park would warrant the same high admission prices as the other two Disney parks. The ticket prices would have to be the same as for any local Six Flags-like thrill park or close enough if they are to win over thrill park guests on a frequent basis.
            While I do agree a whole park about Marvel is not worth 80 bucks....a park with say 4 BIG idea's and Marvel being on of those would be.

            We really have no facts yet.....and I'm sure some Imagneers are pushing for a park with at least ONE original land not based off a movie...or book or anything


            Another Problem I see...is land...I really hope they don't let this next theme park be limited by space...like the other two they built are. I hope they wait until they can do it without rushing it like what they did with DCA
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            • #66
              Re: Third Park to be Marvel Theme?

              I'm guessing that if a 3rd park gets built the final product won't have just Marvel but that it'll incorporate non-Marvel attractions as well. Just as DCA is often referred to as a Pixar park not everything in there is Pixar related.

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              • #67
                Re: Third Park to be Marvel Theme?

                Why does everyone assume a Marvel park would be like Six Flags? Is there something about the Marvel comics and films that screams 'coasters and carnival attractions only'? If anything, the Marvel adventures offer a lot more opportunities for innovative experiences than Cars or the classic cartoons do. Six Flags doesn't even make Marvel attractions, they have a licensing agreement with DC Comics. So the whole 'we don't want a carnival roller coaster Six Flags park at Disneyland' argument just makes no sense...anything they decide to base a third park around could turn out to be a carnival.

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                • #68
                  Re: Third Park to be Marvel Theme?

                  There are far more deserving properties, that are actual Disney movies that should get priority in a 3rd park. No Marvel.

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                  • #69
                    Re: Third Park to be Marvel Theme?

                    Originally posted by DARTH MAUL View Post
                    There are far more deserving properties, that are actual Disney movies that should get priority in a 3rd park. No Marvel.
                    What makes Marvel so undeserving?

                    What other properties would you consider more deserving?
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                    • #70
                      Re: Third Park to be Marvel Theme?

                      Originally posted by christianAdam View Post
                      What makes Marvel so undeserving?

                      What other properties would you consider more deserving?
                      There are few...that really do deserve a land/park more

                      Nintendo
                      Star Wars
                      Lord of the Rings

                      But really that's it....and even then Marvel is still on the top 5 Spiderman and Ironman are just as liked as Donald and Mickey

                      Heck to be fair after his cartoons what has he even really done that make's him worth the title as Disney Mascot? He does not do movies any more...or cartoons and even his last attempts were not very well received
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                      • #71
                        Re: Third Park to be Marvel Theme?

                        Originally posted by TylerDurden View Post
                        Why does everyone assume a Marvel park would be like Six Flags? Is there something about the Marvel comics and films that screams 'coasters and carnival attractions only'? If anything, the Marvel adventures offer a lot more opportunities for innovative experiences than Cars or the classic cartoons do. Six Flags doesn't even make Marvel attractions, they have a licensing agreement with DC Comics. So the whole 'we don't want a carnival roller coaster Six Flags park at Disneyland' argument just makes no sense...anything they decide to base a third park around could turn out to be a carnival.
                        I've wondered about this too, but I can't deny the correlation. Every comic book related attraction, Marvel or DC, has been a big steel coaster. (Spiderman is the exception that proves the rule.) For whatever reason, coasters and comics just seem to go together.

                        Maybe it's because the young male demographic that principally supports the comic book genre is more oriented towards thrills than theme. I think about my friends who are into comic books and they have passes to Six Flags, not DL.

                        Now, I think if anyone can change this, it will be Disney. The question is, how motivated will they be to try? The whole reason Disney bought Marvel was to attract the aforementioned young male demographic.
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                        • #72
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                          im excited as i see potential for this park to thrive

                          ---------- Post added 06-26-2012 at 04:02 PM ----------

                          Originally posted by Broadway Guru View Post
                          I've wondered about this too, but I can't deny the correlation. Every comic book related attraction, Marvel or DC, has been a big steel coaster. (Spiderman is the exception that proves the rule.) For whatever reason, coasters and comics just seem to go together.

                          Maybe it's because the young male demographic that principally supports the comic book genre is more oriented towards thrills than theme. I think about my friends who are into comic books and they have passes to Six Flags, not DL.

                          Now, I think if anyone can change this, it will be Disney. The question is, how motivated will they be to try? The whole reason Disney bought Marvel was to attract the aforementioned young male demographic.
                          ha even if disney does build an amusement park with cheap thrills it still will be better, nicer and more quality than any six flags park
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                          • #73
                            Re: Third Park to be Marvel Theme?

                            Originally posted by JerrodDRagon View Post
                            There are few...that really do deserve a land/park more

                            Nintendo
                            Star Wars
                            Lord of the Rings

                            But really that's it....and even then Marvel is still on the top 5 Spiderman and Ironman are just as liked as Donald and Mickey

                            Heck to be fair after his cartoons what has he even really done that make's him worth the title as Disney Mascot? He does not do movies any more...or cartoons and even his last attempts were not very well received
                            If you want to move Marvel into TL and give Star Wars its own park then you tell me where to sign! That would be an ultimate dream come true, to give Star Wars its own park?? I could only imagine how amazing that would be! in fact I'm surprised that George Lucas never tried doing something on his own (although after ep I II and III I'm glad he didn't)

                            LOTR isn't Disney and I know that Disney is using Nintendo licensed characters in their new movie but I don't see Nintendo selling to Disney...then again crazier things have happened
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                            • #74
                              Re: Third Park to be Marvel Theme?

                              Originally posted by JerrodDRagon View Post
                              There are few...that really do deserve a land/park more

                              Nintendo
                              Star Wars
                              Lord of the Rings
                              None of those are Disney properties. Why would an outside product “deserve” a Disney park more than a Disney product?
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                              • #75
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                                Boy, Im just not sure the DLR could handle this. Although Im not sure it couldnt either. I dont think many of you understand just how this would change the resort. Upon opening, DLR would be turned into a BONAFIDE destination resort equaling Universal Orlando. Now, couple that with the local AP's and you have absolutely MASSIVE amounts of people in a relatively small area. This would turn the resort into a vacation destination that would draw people in from every corner of America. Which is not the case now.

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                                • #76
                                  Re: Third Park to be Marvel Theme?

                                  Originally posted by planodisney View Post
                                  Boy, Im just not sure the DLR could handle this. Although Im not sure it couldnt either. I dont think many of you understand just how this would change the resort. Upon opening, DLR would be turned into a BONAFIDE destination resort equaling Universal Orlando. Now, couple that with the local AP's and you have absolutely MASSIVE amounts of people in a relatively small area. This would turn the resort into a vacation destination that would draw people in from every corner of America. Which is not the case now.
                                  I don't know...DLR pulls in its fair share of world travelers.

                                  As far as AP's would go you would have to just set it up differently.

                                  First - Choose which AP you want - So Cal, Delux, Premium

                                  Second - Choose your Park options - 1 park AP, 2 park AP, or the 3 park AP

                                  Third and Last - choose which park/s you want the AP for.

                                  If you want to go to a different park then what you have an AP for? maybe throw in a 20% discount.
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                                  • #77
                                    Re: Third Park to be Marvel Theme?

                                    Originally posted by Broadway Guru View Post
                                    I've wondered about this too, but I can't deny the correlation. Every comic book related attraction, Marvel or DC, has been a big steel coaster. (Spiderman is the exception that proves the rule.) For whatever reason, coasters and comics just seem to go together.

                                    Maybe it's because the young male demographic that principally supports the comic book genre is more oriented towards thrills than theme. I think about my friends who are into comic books and they have passes to Six Flags, not DL.

                                    Now, I think if anyone can change this, it will be Disney. The question is, how motivated will they be to try? The whole reason Disney bought Marvel was to attract the aforementioned young male demographic.
                                    I guess that makes sense. But I think young males are equally interested in highly-themed thrill rides such as Indiana Jones and Star Tours. Heck, Space Mountain is a well-themed roller coaster...what's to say Disney couldn't make roller coasters on the theme-level of Space Mountain, BTMRR, and Matterhorn and the thrill-level of the Incredible Hulk roller coaster?

                                    I think that if young males are the target demographic Disney needs, it's the target demographic they shouldn't shy away from in a third gate. So what if it's thrill-oriented? There are TWO other parks that offer family-friendly (and somewhat less masculine) attractions, what's wrong with one that differs from that formula. It could bring more families with teenagers to the DLR and offer locals a theme park with the same thrill-type rides as Six Flags/Knott's with the comfort, theming, innovation, service, and quality of a Disney park. I'm no expert, I know that, but to me that seems like a pretty good idea.

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                                    • #78
                                      Re: Third Park to be Marvel Theme?

                                      Looks as if Dubai beat Disney to it as of today... Apparently, there was a ground-breaking ceremony today for
                                      Marvel Adventure Theme Park in Dubai for 2013... (remember, its not Disney though!) :thumbup:

                                      https://news.google.com/news/story?h...ed=0CDEQqgIwAA
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                                      • #79
                                        Re: Third Park to be Marvel Theme?

                                        Originally posted by planetsix View Post
                                        Looks as if Dubai beat Disney to it as of today... Apparently, there was a ground-breaking ceremony today for
                                        Marvel Adventure Theme Park in Dubai for 2013... (remember, its not Disney though!) :thumbup:

                                        https://news.google.com/news/story?h...ed=0CDEQqgIwAA
                                        Thanks for the link!

                                        Based on that article though, it sounds like nothing more than a glorified mall or maybe a Chuck E Cheese lol. Didn't see anything about rides...hopefully that changes, or Disney can do better.

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                                        • #80
                                          Re: Third Park to be Marvel Theme?

                                          Originally posted by calsig31 View Post
                                          None of those are Disney properties. Why would an outside product “deserve” a Disney park more than a Disney product?
                                          I was just saying....other things that deserved there own land...as much or more
                                          (also Disney can just buy them..like Marvel)
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