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  • #81
    Re: Third Park to be Marvel Theme?

    Originally posted by TylerDurden View Post
    Thanks for the link!

    Based on that article though, it sounds like nothing more than a glorified mall or maybe a Chuck E Cheese lol. Didn't see anything about rides...hopefully that changes, or Disney can do better.
    Thanks for the link planetsix!

    It does seem like they've downsized their plans, perhaps through Disney's insistence, cause original images of the park seemed more grand. The current articles seem to frame the theme park more as glorified Chuck E. Cheese (aka Disney Quest).

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    • #82
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      This is an old article but I think it is the same thing.http://disneyandmore.blogspot.com/2009/11/dubai-world-marvel-super-heroes-theme.html
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      • #83
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        Yeah, the plans for this theme park originally looked amazing, but now they just are making a Marvel Mall. The original concept art and stuff can be found by clicking on the smiley face

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        • #84
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          I wonder if Marvel/Disney have the rights to the original concept art?
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          • #85
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            Originally posted by mondo View Post
            Ha. We posted the same link but you beat me.

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            • #86
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              Originally posted by Mr Wiggins View Post
              Appealing to "all audiences" is the old Disney. Today's Disney is a media marketing corporation run by media marketing experts -- targeting specific brands to specific demographics is their specialty; using theme parks as platforms for promoting brands is their business model...
              So is that actually a bad thing? Last I checked TWDC is a publicly-traded company that relies on making money. I don't think marketing supremacy and 'knowing your audience' is necessarily a bad thing.
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              • #87
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                Originally posted by christianAdam View Post
                I would have to disagree with you on that.

                Southern California is one of the largest hot-spots as far as the comic book generation is concerned. I believe if its done right you could hit every demographic out there. Young, old, family, boys, girls, teens, and everything else in between. Marvel has been around since 1961 (1939 if you count Timely Publications) so I think it has the potential of grabbing and keeping an audience.
                I agree that So Cal could do well with a Marvel Theme Park...but not Anaheim. Here's why: Because I believe that when people travel to Anaheim they go there for DL and DCA. As someone who has to travel to the park, I already need at least 3 days to see everything DLR has to offer. Add a park and my trip just went up a day--if not 2. DLR has gotten expensive and choices are going to have to be made.

                I live in No Cal. I used to live in So Cal and since I've moved, I haven't been to Universal Studios, Knotts, LA Zoo, Sea World or Lego Land. Why? Because if I am going to travel to So Cal, I am going to go to Disneyland. I don't have the time or the money to do more. I think that many visitors will feel the way I do.

                For locals, a Marvel park could do well, but for visitors coming to see Mickey Mouse, Iron Man better get out of the way! I believe that is one reason DCA did poorly--not enough Disney characters--isn't that why they put Mickey's face on the Sun Wheel? and Ariel in Small World?
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                • #88
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                  Originally posted by sleepybear View Post
                  For locals, a Marvel park could do well, but for visitors coming to see Mickey Mouse, Iron Man better get out of the way! I believe that is one reason DCA did poorly--not enough Disney characters--isn't that why they put Mickey's face on the Sun Wheel? and Ariel in Small World?
                  True, but it's also possible that an entire Marvel park will attract Marvel fans that maybe never come to SoCal to travel to Anaheim? It could go both ways really...
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                  • #89
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                    Assuming that this happens... will individuals finally concede that Disney is no longer capable of original attractions without having a franchise to back them?
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                    • #90
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                      Originally posted by planetsix View Post
                      Well, doesn't this sound quite familiar? :thumbdown
                      My thoughts exactly, sounds like another DCA. I think it is a given that a new park, especially 100 acres, have different lands. The Marvel characters mostly live in the real world, hence they'd need to think long and hard about how to design a theme park, instead of just a collection of rides. I think Carsland proves that you need more than just rides, you also should have a well thought out plan for theming. People aren't going to Carsland for fast rides, 2/3 of the rides are the "kiddie" rides that were excluded from DCA 1.0

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                      Originally posted by techskip View Post
                      Assuming that this happens... will individuals finally concede that Disney is no longer capable of original attractions without having a franchise to back them?
                      Carsland is based on Disney/Pixar, and its doing pretty well. There are tons of Disney/Pixar films which would be perfect fodder for theme park attractions. Tron Legacy did respectably considering the DVD and merchandising, if they built a quality Tron attraction I doubt anybody would complain.

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                      • #91
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                        I have serious misgivings about an all "Marvel" park. It's a fine line, because I'd be happy with a 3rd gate with a huge Marvel presence and think that is a great idea. But I would much rather see a more generic theme like heroes or adventure that would be a good home to several Marvel based lands and leave open an opportunity for Disney attractions and some original attractions. I think some Pixar films would fit there better then in the original parks and you could toss into the mix a few Disney classics too.

                        But I think that if they market too heavily as a Marvel park they'll run into a lot of problems. The issue of what kind of park it is and whether its just a thrill park will be inevitable and make families question if it's a park that they need to see. On the other hand, its easy to market Marvel offerings directly to that audience and get them interested in the park. But the general public is going to have a certain perception about it if its called a Marvel park rather then a Disney park featuring Marvel. I also think that there's a lot of people celebrating in this thread, not because they want a Marvel park, but because they think this means Marvel might stay out of DL.

                        ---------- Post added 06-26-2012 at 07:09 PM ----------

                        Originally posted by techskip View Post
                        Assuming that this happens... will individuals finally concede that Disney is no longer capable of original attractions without having a franchise to back them?
                        They're capable, but that's not Iger's vision for the company. He believes that every popular brand should be represented in every form of media. Original attractions have no place in this overall strategy.

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                        • #92
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                          Originally posted by sleepybear View Post
                          I agree that So Cal could do well with a Marvel Theme Park...but not Anaheim. Here's why: Because I believe that when people travel to Anaheim they go there for DL and DCA. As someone who has to travel to the park, I already need at least 3 days to see everything DLR has to offer. Add a park and my trip just went up a day--if not 2. DLR has gotten expensive and choices are going to have to be made.

                          I live in No Cal. I used to live in So Cal and since I've moved, I haven't been to Universal Studios, Knotts, LA Zoo, Sea World or Lego Land. Why? Because if I am going to travel to So Cal, I am going to go to Disneyland. I don't have the time or the money to do more. I think that many visitors will feel the way I do.
                          That's why they're doing it. Disney's strategy of resort expansion has always been to rip off the competition. The Disney/MGM Studios were built because Eisner found out about Universal expanding into Orlando. Pleasure Island was meant to cannibalize attendance from Church St. Station. And let's just say DCA was not nicknamed the "Universal Berry Farm" for nothing.

                          Disney views every day you spend off property as a day stolen from them. When and if they build a Marvel park, it will likely be a big steel park because they hope the target demographic (17-35 y.o. males) will spend one more day at DLR rather than go to Magic Mountain or Knott's.
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                          • #93
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                            I have serious misgivings about an all "Marvel" park. It's a fine line, because I'd be happy with a 3rd gate with a huge Marvel presence and think that is a great idea. But I would much rather see a more generic theme like heroes or adventure that would be a good home to several Marvel based lands and leave open an opportunity for Disney attractions and some original attractions. I think some Pixar films would fit there better then in the original parks and you could toss into the mix a few Disney classics too.

                            But I think that if they market too heavily as a Marvel park they'll run into a lot of problems. The issue of what kind of park it is and whether its just a thrill park will be inevitable and make families question if it's a park that they need to see. On the other hand, its easy to market Marvel offerings directly to that audience and get them interested in the park. But the general public is going to have a certain perception about it if its called a Marvel park rather then a Disney park featuring Marvel. I also think that there's a lot of people celebrating in this thread, not because they want a Marvel park, but because they think this means Marvel might stay out of DL.
                            This is what I was thinking... Why not make the park focus on a much broader theme like Adventures kind of like Islands of Adventure in Orlando where they won't be limited to ONLY Marvel? Instead, they can get complete Marvel fix while keeping with elaborately Imagineered originals as well? I just don't get why people would settle for only Marvel instead of having a lot of Marvel presence in the park while having some variety as well? Doesn't sound too bad, in fact, it sounds like it appeals to everyone in some way, even if you don't like Marvel necessarily? Like a compromise! :clap:
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                            • #94
                              Re: Third Park to be Marvel Theme?

                              Originally posted by Broadway Guru View Post
                              That's why they're doing it. Disney's strategy of resort expansion has always been to rip off the competition. The Disney/MGM Studios were built because Eisner found out about Universal expanding into Orlando. Pleasure Island was meant to cannibalize attendance from Church St. Station. And let's just say DCA was not nicknamed the "Universal Berry Farm" for nothing.

                              Disney views every day you spend off property as a day stolen from them. When and if they build a Marvel park, it will likely be a big steel park because they hope the target demographic (17-35 y.o. males) will spend one more day at DLR rather than go to Magic Mountain or Knott's.
                              Yes, I know. But I still don't think that this works in an area like Anaheim. I welcome this park if it means that these males aged 17-35 will go there and I can have DLR to myself.
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                              • #95
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                                Why are people saying a Marvel park is targeting male teens to young adults? If you are saying Marvel targets are 17-35 yrs old, you need to think about the audience at the same age range back in the '60 when Spider-Man, X-men first came out. Those fans would be 67-85 years old today. I am positive they are still Marvel fans even at their older age. I have seen toy commercials where the kids are like 7-10 years old. For the male audience I would say all ages, over many generations.

                                I am pretty sure there is a good age range for female audience too.
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                                • #96
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                                  A Marvel park could be great, but I don't see teens and adults running around in street with ironman mask on now do I.

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                                  • #97
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                                    There are girl costumes for girls, which means there are Marvel fans that are girls. If a girl buy a Marvel costume, there is a big chance that she would like to go to a Marvel park.
                                    Thor Girl Costume $27.90 - Girls Costumes

                                    Kids Black Cat Girl Costume $37.90

                                    The Avengers Black Widow Girl Costume $42.90 - Girls Costumes
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                                    • #98
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                                      A Marvel park could be great, but I don't see teens and adults running around in street with ironman mask on now do I.
                                      If giving the opportunity they will. at the last school dance you could dress however you wanted. Hands down number one group theme was super heroes, not only was the majority in super hero out fits but they were all Marvel super heroes with the exception of a couple supermans. My point is they are very popular characters in my age group. Also do teenagers even play out side anymore? (with Tumblr in my life I dont even remember what out side looks like xP)
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                                      • #99
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                                        Originally posted by Pinrar View Post
                                        Im most worried about what the park as a whole will look like. Harry potter has the awesome wizarding world to flesh out. Cars land had the giant rock formations and the cute town of RS...but what about marvel? What are the marvel lands going to look like? The only marvel land I can think that will be pleasant to be in will be stark expo. Everything else takes place in a boring generic city. Xaviers mutant school might be cool.

                                        im not sure about this, I think a Marvel park could have sveral lands that could be as impressing as The Carsland rockwork.

                                        When I was watching Thor I was imagining what a park would look like with a bridge like the one that leads to Asgard. It would be like a mainstreet of a park with a body of water dividing the different lands that make up the Marvel world.

                                        The design and layout of this park could be very much like the design and layout of westcot. A Center point which could be something like Asgard or Stark expo surrounded by water. On the outside sections of the river/ body of water different lands intertwine to create the many worlds within the Marvel Universe. Even westcoaster had a coaster in the plans very much like California Screamin but it was mostly hidden behind large architectures of the countries that would have been built on that corner of westcot.

                                        A nicely design Marvel park could be quite interesting and still entice families not just teens and adults.

                                        Also, the name of the park would play a big part of its success. It can not be called Idsney Marvel park or something like that. The park has to have a slightly more generic name so that it can evolve. That is why I have suggested something like Disney myths and legends them park. The Marvel brand could be a subname used within the parks walls but necessarily have to be part of the main title. It would be just like Pixar within a Disney park. The Pixar brand is used as a surname for the attractions.

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                                          When I was watching Thor I was imagining what a park would look like with a bridge like the one that leads to Asgard. It would be like a mainstreet of a park with a body of water dividing the different lands that make up the Marvel world.
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                                          It would be absolutely stunning!
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