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  • [Chat] Will there ever be a better system for Fantasmic crowds?

    Disney was awfully smart making a viewing area for WOC after seeing what happened with Fantasmic.
    I guess they weren't aware back in '92 that F! would be quite so popular and last this long

    I realize there's not much they can do to create a seating/standing area at this point but maybe there's a way they could improve it in the future.

    People trying to get across the New Orleans walkway during Fantasmic is a mess.
    CM's pointing in every direction with flashing cones, trying to direct the masses.
    A wimpy little rope that attempts to separate the viewers from the passerby...

    Who has an idea of what they could do to create more room/a better system for Fantasmic viewing?
    Or is it too late?
    Thoughts?

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    Re: Will there ever be a better system for Fantasmic crowds?

    They should make an alternate exit at Critter Country to the Mickey and Friends Parking Structure.



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    • #3
      Re: Will there ever be a better system for Fantasmic crowds?

      I'm pretty sure the Pirates of the Caribbean movie premiere used the same area and held way more people, of course they brought in extra equipment too

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        Re: Will there ever be a better system for Fantasmic crowds?

        They shouldn't allow people to wait for the show until 30 minutes prior to start. I think that would solve a lot of issues.

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          Re: Will there ever be a better system for Fantasmic crowds?

          Originally posted by flickor View Post
          I'm pretty sure the Pirates of the Caribbean movie premiere used the same area and held way more people, of course they brought in extra equipment too
          extra equipment? how about an entire theater... haha

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            Re: Will there ever be a better system for Fantasmic crowds?

            Originally posted by brenden View Post
            They shouldn't allow people to wait for the show until 30 minutes prior to start. I think that would solve a lot of issues.
            even an hour before would be better then it is, but this needs to be the norm on parades and fireworks too
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              Re: Will there ever be a better system for Fantasmic crowds?

              I have no problem with people waiting however long they want to before the show. If they want to waste a big chunk of their day sitting there, more power to them. As long as they relinquish whatever space they are occupying that they don't need as soon as the rest of their party arrives, I have no problem with it. It is those low-lifes who try to excessively take up more space that is necessary to the discomfort of others that I have an issue with.

              What they need to do is come up with an alternate way to exit from Fantasmic. Critter Country was metioned above. Another way would be to create a corridor behind Main Street to the front gate. That way there isn't as much of a blending of the Fantasmic and fireworks crowds.
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                Re: Will there ever be a better system for Fantasmic crowds?

                Originally posted by brenden View Post
                They shouldn't allow people to wait for the show until 30 minutes prior to start. I think that would solve a lot of issues.
                The only thing I see about that is there will be those people that wait at the ropes (waiting, queued or otherwise like WoC) and that would cause an even bigger traffic jam rather them being in a spot that we can at least walk around if we want to get to other places like HM or Splash. That area imho was just not built for it and it seems that is the best Disney can do when it comes to that particular show.
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                  Re: Will there ever be a better system for Fantasmic crowds?

                  I'm probably going to get killed for this, but what if they...

                  ...go back to having F! be a summer only event, so the crowding will be limited to certain days?

                  OR

                  ...change the pricing structure to discourage people from using DL as an after school/work hangout?

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                    Re: Will there ever be a better system for Fantasmic crowds?

                    Originally posted by Broadway Guru View Post
                    I'm probably going to get killed for this, but what if they...

                    ...go back to having F! be a summer only event, so the crowding will be limited to certain days?

                    OR

                    ...change the pricing structure to discourage people from using DL as an after school/work hangout?

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                    Agreed! I'm a little torn, since I feel that Fantasmic! is the best show Disney theme parks has ever, EVER produced.
                    However, the area just cannot handle the massive crowds that come with it, and the evening ambiance and charm of NOS is just completely destroyed as a result.

                    For that matter, I feel the same way about the fireworks, which result in the Hub being wall to wall crowds, nearly impossible to navigate, and most of Fantasyland being shut down for much of the night.

                    I know they are so crowded every night because they are fantastic shows, but it gets to be too much for me.
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                      Re: Will there ever be a better system for Fantasmic crowds?

                      Originally posted by Broadway Guru View Post
                      I'm probably going to get killed for this, but what if they...

                      ...go back to having F! be a summer only event, so the crowding will be limited to certain days?

                      OR

                      ...change the pricing structure to discourage people from using DL as an after school/work hangout?

                      :mob:
                      Ohhh boy do I disgree It's easily one of my top favorite things at the park, and I would just be devastated if it were a summer only event ((

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                        Re: Will there ever be a better system for Fantasmic crowds?

                        Originally posted by Broadway Guru View Post
                        I'm probably going to get killed for this, but what if they...

                        ...go back to having F! be a summer only event, so the crowding will be limited to certain days?

                        OR

                        ...change the pricing structure to discourage people from using DL as an after school/work hangout?

                        :mob:
                        Originally posted by greeeneyes17 View Post
                        Ohhh boy do I disgree It's easily one of my top favorite things at the park, and I would just be devastated if it were a summer only event ((
                        As a guest that only goes during the "non-busy" season I would hate for them to make Fantasmic summer only. Like the next trip for me is going to be in mid September... probably the first weekend Halloween stuff is open.
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                        • #13
                          Re: Will there ever be a better system for Fantasmic crowds?

                          A little off topic, but does Fantasmic run every night in October? I have never seen it before, and am really hoping to on this trip.

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                            Re: Will there ever be a better system for Fantasmic crowds?

                            I like the idea of an exit in Critter Country. I have been in the middle of the crowd exiting after the show. We were directed backstage on Main Street one time - which was a treat, but not good for every time as it is a castmember locker station. The way it is now with a narrow Adventureland and into Frontierland is how it is. Limited seating? Tickets only? FastPass or no entry? I'm not sure what the answer would be.
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                            • #15
                              Re: Will there ever be a better system for Fantasmic crowds?

                              How about if F! was moved to the other side of the ROA? Set up a big seating area by Big Thunder Ranch and distribute fastpasses like WOC....

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                                Re: Will there ever be a better system for Fantasmic crowds?

                                I don't think there'll ever be an exit in Critter Country or anywhere else for that matter. One of the main reasons for Disney to produce night time entertainment is to get people into the parks at times when it usually isn't as busy. Alot of people leave Disneyland at around 5,6pm. Having shows at night brings people back to the parks or keeps them there longer which equals more merchandise/food sales. Having an exit in Critter Country bypasses just about any shop/food place. Having a few thousand extra people each night walking up and down Main Street makes Disney more money.


                                Merchandise sales aren't the only reason for night time entertainment, but its still a big part (as it is for just about everything in the parks these days)

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                                • #17
                                  Re: Will there ever be a better system for Fantasmic crowds?

                                  Originally posted by peagreen View Post
                                  How about if F! was moved to the other side of the ROA? Set up a big seating area by Big Thunder Ranch and distribute fastpasses like WOC....
                                  well, if you are going to use the other end of the island, 1stly that is a LOT of infrastructure that would have to be swapped, secondly, how do you stage everything? The boats are boarded and prepped back there. Also, if you are going to do seating, then do that part similar to how WDW has it.
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                                  • #18
                                    Re: Will there ever be a better system for Fantasmic crowds?

                                    The only problem that I see with an Critter Country exit is that it would dump people out onto a city street, not the esplanade or the parking structure. There would then be a traffic control nightmare as the mass crowd tried to cross the street to get back to the structure.
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                                    • #19
                                      Re: Will there ever be a better system for Fantasmic crowds?

                                      there is also the issue of cutting through backstage and the visibility of Splash's showbuilding
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                                      • #20
                                        Re: Will there ever be a better system for Fantasmic crowds?

                                        Originally posted by frollofan View Post
                                        They should make an alternate exit at Critter Country to the Mickey and Friends Parking Structure.
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