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  • [Chat] Has Mr. Toad Lost to the test of time?

    Mr. Toad's Wild Ride is one of Fantasyland's opening day attractions, and the only attraction that boasts its ability to send riders literally to HELL. With Snow White and Mr. Toad removed from their original Walt Disney World homes, should Disneyland be concerned about their Toad Hall? Once a popular attraction Mr. Toad has one of the shortest ride wait lines in the entire park. The new generations don't even know who he is and is completely surprised when they end up in hell. I personally believe Toad Hall is due for a change in residence. Pinocchio was added into the courtyard and I rather like that ride! I would rather see Belle's Magical Journey or something (though I prefer beauty and the beast ride above all). Who is alright with a change, who thinks I've committed blasphemy and who has good ride suggestions?
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    Re: Has Mr. Toad Lost to the test of time?

    Here's my opinion on Mr. Toad. Growing up, my parents would never take us on it exactly because it featured a scene in hell. We would go to Fantasyland and hit every dark ride, except for Mr Toad. Fast forward twenty years. I'm 25. I'm there with family, and they head off with the kiddies to ride Dumbo, and since I'm standing next to a nearly line-less Mr Toads, I jump on for the first time in my life.

    It was weak, in my opinion. The cheapness of the ride really stood out: painted plywood set pieces, low-tech effects, a few busted light bulbs here and there. I think that lack of riding it as a kid, really soured it for me as an adult. Nostalgia keeps a lot of rides alive at Disney, and if you don't have that nostalgia, you might not get the ride.

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    • #3
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      I would never want to see Toad go - but I would love the ride to be updated. There is a huge cult following for this ride, and since Disney closed the one in Florida under a great deal of controversy and protest from avid fans, who actually formed sit-in's in the park to prevent it's removal, I doubt they they will get ride of the one remaining version. That having been said, I have always wished they would turn it into a real wild ride. An indoor roller coaster type ride. Same characters and music, same premise, just more three dimensional sets and a more "hair raising" experience so it really lives up to its name as a wild ride. But I would never want it replaced with anything other than a new and improved Toad
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        Dont ask my opinion
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        • #5
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          ITA. Mr. Toad is fabulous, and really, it doesn't have a short line at all most of the time. The line doesn't reach Peter Pan or Dumbo proportions, but it rivals Alice and Storybook, as well as the lines ofr other attractions in the park. Even those who don't know the story think that it's fun and get a kick out of the Hell scene.
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          • #6
            Re: Has Mr. Toad Lost to the test of time?

            Yes, it has. That was a very easy answer.

            Now here's a question for the OP: When is the line ever short???
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            • #7
              Re: Has Mr. Toad Lost to the test of time?

              NEVAH!!

              Mr.Toad is badass end of story.

              Besides, all of the FL dark rides behind the castle are kind of untouchable, if one goes something similar in scale and style would have to replace it. DL's courtyard is also much smaller than FL's so expansion/construction doesn't seem worth it.

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              • #8
                Re: Has Mr. Toad Lost to the test of time?

                Don't touch my toad.
                Last edited by doppio; 07-07-2012, 01:00 AM.

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                • #9
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                  It's not at all surprising that modern audiences have no idea who Mr. Toad is - the original film was released 63 years ago, back in 1949. What Disney needs to do is rerelease The Adventures of Ichabod and Mr. Toad to movie theaters again. Then start rereleasing all their classic movies to theaters, too, because that's where they deserve to be seen. Then modern audiences won't be so unfamiliar with these characters.

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                  • #10
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                    Mr. Toad's Wild Ride was my favorite ride when I was five! I loved it as much as Indiana Jones. I have great memories riding that with my dad, we would pretend like I was actually driving and my dad would yell stuff like "WHERE ARE YOU GOING? DON'T DRIVE THROUGH THE FIRE PLACE!!" "AAA THE POLICE, STOP!!" I was five and really got a kick out of it! So yes it is nostalgia that keeps the love for that ride alive. I would be extremely sad to see it go, I have very good memories associated with it. I actually like the painted sets and such, I don't know how I would feel if they changed or "upgraded" it.

                    I am part of the newer generation who has no idea who Mr. Toad actually is, yet that didn't matter.
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                    • #11
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                      I was wondering about the line comment too. I never see it short. Pooh is short, Monsters Ink is short. Toad, not so much. As far as age goes, up keep should be brought into account first. Also, not being based on a popular movie should never stop a well themed attraction from being built. Otherwise, we'd never have Splash Mountain. if it's in the Disney canon, it's fair game for an attraction. Thinking like that keeps out a lot of good films that would make great theme park additions. I'm in my late 20s, and even I didn't know who this character was as a child. It took a bit of research, but I never felt less invested in the ride because of that. My only real issue with it, is that it's never felt quite right for the fantasy theme. Feels more like Critter Country or something. But that's besides the point.

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                        Re: Has Mr. Toad Lost to the test of time?

                        Originally posted by Prof. Emelius View Post
                        I would never want to see Toad go - but I would love the ride to be updated. There is a huge cult following for this ride, and since Disney closed the one in Florida under a great deal of controversy and protest from avid fans, who actually formed sit-in's in the park to prevent it's removal, I doubt they they will get ride of the one remaining version. That having been said, I have always wished they would turn it into a real wild ride. An indoor roller coaster type ride. Same characters and music, same premise, just more three dimensional sets and a more "hair raising" experience so it really lives up to its name as a wild ride. But I would never want it replaced with anything other than a new and improved Toad
                        I actually like that idea a lot! If only Mr. Toad wasn't such an obscure character WDW would have got this instead of Seven Dwarves mine train! Lol that could have been a helluva good time (pun intended).
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                        • #13
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                          Anyone who doesn't at least have an idea who Mr. Toad is should blame their public (or private) school for not having Wind and the Willows on the curriculum.

                          That being said, this is a discussion with no real middle ground. You either grew up on Mr. Toad or you didn't. You either love the ride or you don't.

                          On the subject of Hell you do end up there for a very good (at least Disney good) reason, if you follow the story of the ride. :P

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                          • #14
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                            its been too long since I rode it, why exactly did we end up in hell? Also, it seems to me that Mr Toads is the only fantasyland dark ride based on a movie that doesn't follow the plot of the movie, so that makes me be more impressed by it then Snow White for example. However, for a few years I've been trying to figure out a way for WDI to get rides for Beauty and the Beast, Princess and the Frog, Tangled, Aladdin, Hercules, Hunchback of Notre Dame and Lion king in to the DLR. Each of those can fit in 1 or 2 different lands, but where is there room for more fantasyland rides (Tangled, BatB, Hercules, Hunchback of Notre Dame), what about adventureland rides (Aladdin, Lion King), New Orleans Square (Princess and the Frog)? Then the question becomes, which do we want most if we can even fit them? Personally, I'd choose Beauty and the Beast and Tangled if there is room for them anywhere. And when most if not all of the movies listed in my post are more well known then Mr Toad, it really is a question of, is it blasphemy to take out a DL original in favor of a new ride (even using the same track layout)
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                            • #15
                              Re: Has Mr. Toad Lost to the test of time?

                              Originally posted by Retrocool View Post
                              It's not at all surprising that modern audiences have no idea who Mr. Toad is - the original film was released 63 years ago, back in 1949. What Disney needs to do is rerelease The Adventures of Ichabod and Mr. Toad to movie theaters again. Then start rereleasing all their classic movies to theaters, too, because that's where they deserve to be seen. Then modern audiences won't be so unfamiliar with these characters.
                              The Wind in the Willows is still a classic book; even if most haven't seen the film; they may very well have read the book or seen another adaptation of it.

                              I'd love to see the 1949 film re-released, though. I've never seen it.
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                                Re: Has Mr. Toad Lost to the test of time?

                                Originally posted by Malina View Post
                                The Wind in the Willows is still a classic book; even if most haven't seen the film; they may very well have read the book or seen another adaptation of it.

                                I'd love to see the 1949 film re-released, though. I've never seen it.
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                                • #17
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                                  I also have it on VHS. Great movie.

                                  And as said many times, this ride always boasts a wait.
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                                  • #18
                                    Re: Has Mr. Toad Lost to the test of time?

                                    Never seen the movie or read the book, but I always liked the ride. I grew up with it though like others here so maybe thats what it is, but it a fun for me. I hope it never gets removed, but yeah they could update it, make it a bit less cheap looking. Look how they updated SW with modern effects, not sure why they cant for Toad. And yeah, Toad is ONLY at DL now. Nowhere else on the planet unlike most of the others so that makes it a bit more valuable as well. Of course that doesnt mean squat if its not getting the crowds but like others said its always a line, at least when I'm there. It fall to 10 min waits at the end of the night, but seem to be 20-30 min average. SW and Pinochio are the total walk ons most of the day and they are both based on very famous films.

                                    Anyway I disagree, I would like it to stay for all I stated above and I'm one of those change and change often people. But this just works IMO.

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                                    • #19
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                                      ORDDU: Mr. Toad is a timeless classic and should remain right where it is, along with Snow White, Alice in Wonderland, Peter Pan, Pinocchio and Sleeping Beauty.

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                                      • #20
                                        Re: Has Mr. Toad Lost to the test of time?

                                        Originally posted by mickeyfan42 View Post
                                        but where is there room for more fantasyland rides
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