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  • Alan-A-Dale
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    One thing about the original Disneyland castle is that it has become very iconic over the past 50 years. It is very much instantly recognizable (especially to those of us who grew up watching Walt on TV on Sunday nights).

    I think that in Europe -- there was probably a concerted effort to make sure they did NOT build a castle that look just like the American icon.

    However, I would believe that in Hong Kong, the population would very much *want* a castle just like the one they've seen on TV for so many years.
    Last edited by Alan-A-Dale; 03-13-2005, 09:32 AM.

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  • MickeyMania
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    The DLP castle is the whimsical, fantasy twin of the one in DLR. No point in recreating an authentic castle when you're in Europe, no?

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  • Jspider
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    Originally posted by mrfantasmic
    The fact that they're all different is somewhat refreshing. While a lot of rides are recycled from park to park (grr... ) the castle at least gives every park it's own identity.
    So why the Hong Kong decision? You've got me!
    from what I understand and you all seem to be forgetting is that the Hong Kong Disneyland will have less land then any of the other Magic Kingdoms, up until now the origional disneyland has been the smallest and so they're simply copying alot of the scale designs from Disneyland in order to utilize the land effieciently in the same way Disneyland does

    I also hear that the Hong Kong Disneyland castle has more cement in it then DL's does mostly because of how close it is to the ocean

    I dissagree on the recycled ride, there are differences in EVERY version of Pirates in every park, and the Haunted Mansion also tends to have differences in every park (Tokyo and WDW had the same version until Tokyo started to get HMH) the ToT's have also changed from park to park (DCA's looks different from WDW's and Tokyo's will look totaly different and I hear paris will be different too) Pooh changed from clone to clone in scene to scene

    the fantasyland darkrides also haven't had direct clones, space mountain is different in all parks

    I can't think of many rides at all that have been cloned totaly the same they all have small or large differences between them

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  • WickedQueen
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    The reason the castles are so different and WHY they are allowed to be different are two different answers.
    #1. First off ... Gemini Cricket is correct. The castles (all four) are: Sleeping Beauty Castle and Cinderella Castle. The castles are NOT where the princess' live ... the castles are just named after the princess'. This is why they are not named Cinderella's Castle and Sleeping Beatuy's Castle. I know it is a little mis understanding ... but it makes sense! So they don't have to look the same because they are not the same castle. EXCEPT for the castle in WDW and the one at TDL. This is because they are the " pick 'em park". They went through DL and MK and picked what they liked about each park and what they liked the put in their park. They duplicated DL's Snow White Grotto and they duplicated MK's castle.
    #2. The reason that the one in Paris doen't match the one in DL is because people in Europe see castles ALL THE TIME. (They are in Europe!) So, if they were to duplicate the DL castle ... then the Europeans would be like ... THAT is a castle ... and laugh! So, theirs had to be bigger and much more grand! (Side note: For the new park in HK, they are gonna duplicate the castle from DL! The park will only be less then half the size of DL, so they need a smaller castle!)

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  • DisneyParkFan
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    Originally posted by Mr. Disney
    Actually the castles are only named after the princesses, they're not necessarilly theirs. Cinderella Castle in Walt Disney World doesn't look anything like he one in the movie, actually, it looks more like Sleeping Beauty's Castle from the movie. and Sleeping Beauty's Castle in Disneyland looks a lot more like Snow White's from the movie. That's what makes them so charming (for me at least).
    I think that Sleeping Beauty Castle in DL was originially supposed to be Snow White Castle but got a name change as the newer movie came out. Anyone else hear/read this?

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  • Witches of Morva
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    ORDDU: One more thing in regard to why Hong Kong Disneyland chose to duplicate the California version of a Sleeping Beauty Castle--instead of the Paris version: My sisters and I were told by someone in the know that the Paris version--pretty as it is--has developed a lot of leaks over the years--due to the intricate rooves and the way water drains off of them. It is, supposedly, a nightmare to maintain. For this reason, we have been told the Paris version of Sleeping Beauty Castle will never be duplicated again.

    ORWEN: The smaller Disneyland version is much cheaper to maintain and less costly to build. And, since we all live in the era of cost cutting, I guess we're all supposed to be glad Hong Kong Disneyland has a castle at all...

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  • Witches of Morva
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    ORWEN: Well, I hate to disagree with you, Mr. Disney, duckling. But I don't see any similarities between the castle in the Snow White film and the Disneyland version of Sleeping Beauty Castle. If you look closely enough, you'll see that there's hardly any feature about the two that matches.

    ORDDU: I would say that the theme park version of Cinderella's Castle has SOME similarities to the animated film version of Cinderella, though. The tall, steep rooves are examples that come readily to mind.

    ORGOCH: Who the heck even CARES?! What I always wanted was the Horny King's Castle, instead a Snoozin' Floozie's er Cindersmelly's!!! I say git them dang prissy dames out a the way and let a REAL character git his chance ta live a life a luxury!!!

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  • mrfantasmic
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    The fact that they're all different is somewhat refreshing. While a lot of rides are recycled from park to park (grr... ) the castle at least gives every park it's own identity.
    So why the Hong Kong decision? You've got me!

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  • Mr. Disney
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    Actually the castles are only named after the princesses, they're not necessarilly theirs. Cinderella Castle in Walt Disney World doesn't look anything like he one in the movie, actually, it looks more like Sleeping Beauty's Castle from the movie. and Sleeping Beauty's Castle in Disneyland looks a lot more like Snow White's from the movie. That's what makes them so charming (for me at least).

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  • Cousin Orville
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    Originally posted by mp3piratesavvy
    Why is Hong Kong getting Disneyland's original castle? Thats the stupidest thing disney has done since the budgets started cutting in tomorrowland
    At first, they were gonna only do the original Orange Groves before Anaheim was built, but they figured at least they could do a Castle. :devil:

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  • DisneyParkFan
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    Can I put my two cents in?

    I read that DLP Sleeping Beauty Castle was designed to look more "storybook" in architecture and landscaping because of all the "real" castle in Europe. It does rock. It is beautiful and wonderful to walk through. And the dragon is awesome. La Chateau de la Belle au Bois Dormant is my favorite Disney theme park castle. Although I will always have a soft spot in my heart for the "castlecake" os WDW's 25th. =8^)

    I don't think all the castle have to look alike. Different castles would give each park its own "personality". Following that train of thought: TDL and DLHK are getting "cheated" out of their own castles.

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  • mp3piratesavvy
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    Why is Hong Kong getting Disneyland's original castle? Thats the stupidest thing disney has done since the budgets started cutting in tomorrowland

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  • Indy95
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    Originally posted by The Mad Hatter
    No...WDW and TDL are the same in looks and name.
    Though...if I may add...the Tokyo Castle houses the Castle Mystery Tour, not found in WDW.

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  • Momzilla59
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    Originally posted by Gemini Cricket
    Secondly, the Paris castle should be Belle's, but the dragon is really neat and Belle didn't fight a dragon so it wouldn't work if they changed it now...
    How do you figure that the Paris castle should be Belle's?
    Is the Hong Kong castle going to be Mulan's?

    The house of the beautiful girl who sleeps in the woods....for me, that's Sleeping Beauty!

    I think it's nice that the castles are different in 3 of the parks. It gives them each a different flavor. I think TDL got the short end of the schtick!

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  • Cousin Orville
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    Originally posted by Club 33
    Well, you see in France they actually have castles. Here in the USA you throw a castle at us and we say "wow!" because we dont have castles. In France, Disney needed something particualarly magical to create the same sense of wonder with the French. This is also why the DLP castle is thought to be the most beautiful of all the Disney castles.
    Yes. or Oui. The DL castle is shamelessly copied in miniature from an existing one in Bavaria. It would never read as Disney, but as mad ludwig the man who built the Neuschanstein Castle. WDW's is borrowed in detail from mostly French castles, so the DLP one had to be more of a cartoon proportioned castle that defies comparison and is french inspired, but all Disney.

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  • Not Afraid
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    If they put DL's castle in France it would be the laughing stock. So, they created a castle that was as impressive as any actual castle in France. Also, the similarities - especially the landscape - are designed after the film, which wasn't finished when DL's castle was built.

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  • Gemini Cricket
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    First off, it's Sleeping Beauty Castle. Not Sleeping Beauty's Castle. (I'm a nerd, I know.)

    Secondly, the Paris castle should be Belle's, but the dragon is really neat and Belle didn't fight a dragon so it wouldn't work if they changed it now...

    Cinderella and Sleeping Beauty bought multiple homes. They must have had great financial advice from someone...

    DLP's castle outrocks them all. IMHO.

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  • Jspider
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    Originally posted by The Mad Hatter
    But they should at least look somewhat similar...but they don't.
    no they look similar one just looks like a version you might see if you were um on "medication" basicaly just a toontownish version of it kinda

    they have similarities

    I wouldn't mind getting that stain glass thing they have to replace our dolls (and maybe their dragon

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  • The Mad Hatter
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    Originally posted by Club 33
    Now do you think they sould be named differently of that they should look the same?
    No...WDW and TDL are the same in looks and name.

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  • Club 33
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    Originally posted by The Mad Hatter
    But they should at least look somewhat similar...but they don't.
    Now do you think they sould be named differently of that they should look the same?

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