[Question] Does printing invalid fastpasses reduce the amount of valid passes given out per day?

[Quarar44]

I was just curious as to whether the stacks of invalid fastpasses left on top of the machines all the time take a toll on the valid fastpasses output of each machine. I.e. if the machine prints a ton of invalid fastpasses would it have less valid passes to give out throughout the day?

[RatherBeAtDLand]

Re: Does printing invalid fastpasses reduce the amount of valid passes given out per

No, definitely not. I can assure you of that.

[swampymarsh]

Re: Does printing invalid fastpasses reduce the amount of valid passes given out per

I can assure you it does. Nobody can get FPs when they have to refill the machines more often because of wasted paper. This could mean 10 or 20 less FPs a day if the machines are busy went it runs out.

[Disneytwins]

Re: Does printing invalid fastpasses reduce the amount of valid passes given out per

No, it's all computerized. The computer knows when the FPs are invalid and therefore the "ticket" is not entered into the "capacity".

Basically, the computer is spitting out an error to the user and basically telling you "I'm not going to count you because you made a booboo"

[Quarar44]

Re: Does printing invalid fastpasses reduce the amount of valid passes given out per

So the machines get refilled? I was under the assumption all this time that they loaded the machines before the park opened and whenever the machine ran out of paper it ran out of FPs. Thanks for the info!

[SoarinMatt]

Re: Does printing invalid fastpasses reduce the amount of valid passes given out per

I refilled paper for fastpass machines at Soarin' and Tower about twice a day.

[ohmyjustin]

Re: Does printing invalid fastpasses reduce the amount of valid passes given out per

I refilled paper for fastpass machines at Soarin' and Tower about twice a day.

Someone please tell me it's not weird that I really want to see a machine get refilled in person...

[G24T]

Re: Does printing invalid fastpasses reduce the amount of valid passes given out per

So the machines get refilled? I was under the assumption all this time that they loaded the machines before the park opened and whenever the machine ran out of paper it ran out of FPs. Thanks for the info!

I know for sure that at Indy there's a themed box in the corner of the fp distribution area (directly to the right as you enter) that has some computer looking things and big square blocks of blank fastpasses.

I've watched them load it before and basically they insert the block of tickets into a housing vertical-wise and then load the top tickets (face-up) into a feeder that's directly above the housing. I'm not sure if it's the same all over the resort but that's just what I saw at Indy.

[sir clinksalot]

Re: Does printing invalid fastpasses reduce the amount of valid passes given out per

Someone please tell me it's not weird that I really want to see a machine get refilled in person...

Just think of it as the cashier at the grocery store refilling the register spool except with fastpasses. Not very exciting.

[flynnibus]

Re: Does printing invalid fastpasses reduce the amount of valid passes given out per

I was just curious as to whether the stacks of invalid fastpasses left on top of the machines all the time take a toll on the valid fastpasses output of each machine. I.e. if the machine prints a ton of invalid fastpasses would it have less valid passes to give out throughout the day?

capacity is tracked by the computers - not by the # of tickets in the machine.

[JMazz]

Re: Does printing invalid fastpasses reduce the amount of valid passes given out per

How sad. Someone(s) voted this as a "bad" question (as in 2 stars). It is a good question, simply based on the fact that the OP didn't know the answer.

///5 stars///

Another question...

Does the computer know that the paper is out while I am trying to get a valid FP? As in, I insert my day ticket, no FP comes out nor any paper whatsoever, Can I get a pass at the next machine that does have paper? I would just do an experiement on my own, but I don't have the luxury of being to just hop on over there multiple times per year to wait for an empty machine.

My guess is that the system knows when the paper is out and it just wont read your ticket and/or there is a indication of some sort that would tell me ahead of time that this FP machine is "out of order".

Just curious... and yes, I too would like to see how this is done (re-fill).

[flynnibus]

Re: Does printing invalid fastpasses reduce the amount of valid passes given out per

the whole FP printer mech can be slid in and out. It's just a vertical feeder for the tickets.. and yes the machine would know it couldn't print a pass and you would just get one at the next machine.

The machine would probably just refuse to take the ticket in (turn off the insert motors).

[ohmyjustin]

Re: Does printing invalid fastpasses reduce the amount of valid passes given out per

the whole FP printer mech can be slid in and out. It's just a vertical feeder for the tickets.. and yes the machine would know it couldn't print a pass and you would just get one at the next machine.

The machine would probably just refuse to take the ticket in (turn off the insert motors).

Yeah, I imagine it to be like a home printer. If there's no paper, it recognizes that and will just print it when it gets fed new paper. No harm, no foul.

[Quarar44]

Re: Does printing invalid fastpasses reduce the amount of valid passes given out per

Does the computer know that the paper is out while I am trying to get a valid FP? As in, I insert my day ticket, no FP comes out nor any paper whatsoever, Can I get a pass at the next machine that does have paper? I would just do an experiement on my own, but I don't have the luxury of being to just hop on over there multiple times per year to wait for an empty machine.

My guess is that the system knows when the paper is out and it just wont read your ticket and/or there is a indication of some sort that would tell me ahead of time that this FP machine is "out of order".

Just curious... and yes, I too would like to see how this is done (re-fill).

Once I was getting a FP and the machine I was at wasn't giving out tickets at all (as in not even invalid ones) even though the light went on so I just moved to the machine next to it and it worked fine.

[Quacky4Donald]

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Here's a thought that just came to my mind. Do Cast Members have the ability to override an "invalid FastPass"? Meaning, if the FastPass machine's ticket paper were to get jammed and torn, but actually did print a valid FastPass for a Guest, could a Cast Member simply strike a few keys or buttons and print a new, valid FastPass? Thanks!

- Joe

[Quarar44]

Re: Does printing invalid fastpasses reduce the amount of valid passes given out per

Here's a thought that just came to my mind. Do Cast Members have the ability to override an "invalid FastPass"? Meaning, if the FastPass machine's ticket paper were to get jammed and torn, but actually did print a valid FastPass for a Guest, could a Cast Member simply strike a few keys or buttons and print a new, valid FastPass? Thanks!

- Joe

Yes. There's a button on the back that a cast member has to open with a key (I think) that prints a new fastpass. Until recently though the button was open so apparently people were pressing it to get fastpasses when they weren't supposed to.

[Disneytwins]

Re: Does printing invalid fastpasses reduce the amount of valid passes given out per

capacity is tracked by the computers - not by the # of tickets in the machine.

Wow, that's what I was trying to say... man I feel stupid lol

[Quacky4Donald]

Re: Does printing invalid fastpasses reduce the amount of valid passes given out per

Yes. There's a button on the back that a cast member has to open with a key (I think) that prints a new fastpass. Until recently though the button was open so apparently people were pressing it to get fastpasses when they weren't supposed to.

Nice! Thanks for the information. It's a good thing they made that button only accessible via key.