[Question] Fantasylands

[DCArocks]

With Florida getting their new Fantasyland do you guys think that California's is not as good quality? From what we have seen from videos their new Fantasyland is amazing. Now i love Disneyland's Fantayland, i just hope Florida's wont make me change my mind about Walt's original.

[ohmyjustin]

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I'm not going to lie, New Fantasyland looks great and it has the potential to put ours to shame. Actually, I'd say that ours is getting a little lackluster. Is it without its charm, though? Absolutely not.

[ShelbyH]

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Well, to be technical, the current FL is not actually Walt's original--the 1983 changes very extremely significant. That said, I do think the WDW FL looks very cool, and obviously I haven't seen it yet, but I think that getting CL as a brand-new land is better. CL blows me away every time I see it.

[DCArocks]

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Shelby you should watch this video: Preview of New Fantasyland at the Magic Kingdom - Behind the Walls and Inside! - YouTube

[WDW1971]

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I have got to say that WDW's Fantasyland is going to be way better than Disneyland's from the looks of it on the outside. But that is not to say that Disneyland's is worse because their Fantasyland is also so beautiful with all the facades. I am guessing that WDI chose not to recreate the Disneyland Fantasyland look in WDW was because many of those architectural styles can be found over in Epcot and it may become too repetitive.

I love how there are so many different sub lands in the new Fantasyland where you can really get immersed into the stories. It makes sense how there is the medieval section as if it were part of the castle and they are having a festival under the castle. Then you can go explore the worlds of Beauty and the Beast, The Little Mermaid, Seven Dwarfs, Winnie the Pooh, and a whole Circus. In Disneyland they do not really include the castle within Fantasyland, it is kind of just there.

It was a mistake in my opinion to place The Little Mermaid in DCA. They should have built in in Disneyland with the coastal castle facade WDW is getting. Ariel belongs in Fantasyland with all the other Princesses, not in an aquarium haha. Also I do not like how they are building the same exact ride as in DCA. I know they really cut back the ride due to the limited footprint. If only they designed it for WDW then there would have been enough space for them to do whatever they wanted and there would not be any shortcomings.

I only wish there was another ride in WDW's. A Beauty and the Beast dark ride would have been perfect.

Magic Kingdom's has so much detail. I think it is going to look even better than Cars Land.

[MagicWDI]

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With the way Disney likes to clone nowadays It's hard for me to imagine Disney hasn't thought about expanding Disneyland's Fantasyland in a similar way they're doing for MK. But I believe this expansion to MK is a direct response to Potter land.

But as I mentioned Disney is very clone happy these days to get a better value out of their R&D departments. We know DL's Fantasyland has a lot of potential expansion areas, such as the Fantasyland theatre, the old Motorboat Cruise area, Autopia, etc. They do have the opportunity, and because of this I believe there is no doubt they have eyed DL's Fantasyland for expansion, which is probably competing against other expansion ideas right now.

[calsig31]

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I think Disney World will have more offerings, but I don't know if it will match the detail of the thatched roof facades of CA. Time will tell.

[mainejeff]

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With the way Disney likes to clone nowadays It's hard for me to imagine Disney hasn't thought about expanding Disneyland's Fantasyland in a similar way they're doing for MK. But I believe this expansion to MK is a direct response to Potter land.

But as I mentioned Disney is very clone happy these days to get a better value out of their R&D departments. We know DL's Fantasyland has a lot of potential expansion areas, such as the Fantasyland theatre, the old Motorboat Cruise area, Autopia, etc. They do have the opportunity, and because of this I believe there is no doubt they have eyed DL's Fantasyland for expansion, which is probably competing against other expansion ideas right now.

I believe that you are spot on......not sure if they would take Toontown out, but they could incorporate that as well. With Harry Potter at Uni on the horizon and a very successful and highly praised expansion of DCA under their belt.........Disney has a chance to rebuild and expand Fantasyland into something Walt would be proud of. This, along with a new E-ticket for Tomorrowland would be good ammo to battle Universal AND please Disney fans.

[DCArocks]

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One thing that i have to say about Disneyland's fantasyland is that its a small worlds facade would ruin beauty and the beast or any other lavish attraction. I always felt its a small world belonged in Epcot or tomorrowland. I really do hope they expand it and make it even more immersive.

[WDW1971]

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One thing that i have to say about Disneyland's fantasyland is that its a small worlds facade would ruin beauty and the beast or any other lavish attraction. I always felt its a small world belonged in Epcot or tomorrowland. I really do hope they expand it and make it even more immersive.

I have to agree with you 100%. I do not know why people love the facades of the Small Worlds in Paris, Anaheim, Tokyo and Hong Kong yet abhor the one at the Magic Kingdom. However, the facade in Anaheim has nothing to do with the European storybook village of the rest of Fantasyland. At least in Magic Kingdom, the ride blends in with the surrounding architecture and the whimsical facade is found inside the ride as to not detract from any of the surroundings in Fantasyland.

[swampymarsh]

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If I was to rank FL vs FL on a scale of 1 to 10 with 10 being perfect.
DL =7
WDW =5 it looks cheap in comparison.

When WDW expands, it may get a 7, but when DL's expands it may keep the title and receive an 8. It's going to be over a year to see how it all shakes out.

[WDW1971]

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I believe that you are spot on......not sure if they would take Toontown out, but they could incorporate that as well. With Harry Potter at Uni on the horizon and a very successful and highly praised expansion of DCA under their belt.........Disney has a chance to rebuild and expand Fantasyland into something Walt would be proud of. This, along with a new E-ticket for Tomorrowland would be good ammo to battle Universal AND please Disney fans.

Well I believe you are not spot on. Fantasyland has to be one of the best lands within Disneyland and there are other projects on the horizon that take place over an expansion for Fantasyland. I thought the 1983 remodel aimed to make Fantasyland as Walt envisioned it. Why copy all the great things from Magic Kingdom? Create something new. MK got the better Mermaid already. All they could add is Beauty and the Beast restaurants and the Seven Dwarfs Mine Train. All I could see is them bringing over the Seven Dwarfs ride where Autopia once was. The detail of Beauty and the Beast would make the rest of Fantasyland look bad in comparison. Also why are all the village sets located in the courtyard and then there will be a huge section devoted to one film separate from the rest of the village? There is probably a 0% chance BatB is coming to Disneyland. Hopefully if they get Seven Dwarfs Mine Train and have to close Snow White's Scary Adventures then they at least replace that with a Beauty and the Beast dark ride.

Harry Potter is showing no progression at USH and I hope they decide to cancel the project. I do not see any reason for the DLR to counter act the projects of USH. USH's attendance is so below that of DLR there is no need for them to fear. They will wait and see but USH will not be a major threat.

[Sir.Mouse]

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WDW isn't getting a new FL they're just expanding. The old renfare look of the courtyard behind the castle will still be there only now what's behind it will look better. Also, there's something to be said about they way they're designing the facades, each attraction getting it's own look, but things not designed with the entire land in mind. This is a current trend at WDW just look at Winnie the Pooh, it stands out from the rest of FL.

[calsig31]

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At least in Magic Kingdom, the ride blends in with the surrounding architecture and the whimsical facade is found inside the ride as to not detract from any of the surroundings in Fantasyland.

That's funny. I have always found the one at Magic Kingdom to look funny crammed inside a building. It seems to take away the splendor of the beautiful facade.

[mainejeff]

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Well I believe you are not spot on.

You sound very uppity.

[CupcakeTerror]

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The new Fantasyland in Florida looks wonderful! I'm certain that pictures do the revamp justice, but WOW!

Disneyland is getting the new Princess Faire area and first impressions remind me of the new FL Fantasyland. I'm going to assume that there is an overall look and feel that Disney wants to have in both parks.

With that said, I think that each Fantasyland has it's own charm and loveliness. To say one is better than the other is really subjective. Personally, I can't wait to see the New FL Fantasyland! <3

[DCArocks]

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Disneylands still has a ton of charm but it is disturbed in my opinion with the transition to tomorrow land and I feel it should be bigger and grander. I say get rid of toon town and put roger rabbit in DCA.

[CaliforniaAdventurer]

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With the way Disney likes to clone nowadays It's hard for me to imagine Disney hasn't thought about expanding Disneyland's Fantasyland in a similar way they're doing for MK. But I believe this expansion to MK is a direct response to Potter land.

But as I mentioned Disney is very clone happy these days to get a better value out of their R&D departments. We know DL's Fantasyland has a lot of potential expansion areas, such as the Fantasyland theatre, the old Motorboat Cruise area, Autopia, etc. They do have the opportunity, and because of this I believe there is no doubt they have eyed DL's Fantasyland for expansion, which is probably competing against other expansion ideas right now.

Bingo!

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Not sure if they would take Toontown out, but they could incorporate that as well. With Harry Potter at Uni on the horizon and a very successful and highly praised expansion of DCA under their belt.........Disney has a chance to rebuild and expand Fantasyland into something Walt would be proud of. This, along with a new E-ticket for Tomorrowland would be good ammo to battle Universal AND please Disney fans.

It seems obvious doesn't it?

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Why copy all the great things from Magic Kingdom? Create something new. MK got the better Mermaid already. All they could add is Beauty and the Beast restaurants and the Seven Dwarfs Mine Train. All I could see is them bringing over the Seven Dwarfs ride where Autopia once was. The detail of Beauty and the Beast would make the rest of Fantasyland look bad in comparison. Also why are all the village sets located in the courtyard and then there will be a huge section devoted to one film separate from the rest of the village? There is probably a 0% chance BatB is coming to Disneyland. Hopefully if they get Seven Dwarfs Mine Train and have to close Snow White's Scary Adventures then they at least replace that with a Beauty and the Beast dark ride.

Harry Potter is showing no progression at USH and I hope they decide to cancel the project. I do not see any reason for the DLR to counter act the projects of USH. USH's attendance is so below that of DLR there is no need for them to fear. They will wait and see but USH will not be a major threat.

I could see a Snow White coaster behind Storybookland where the theater is now and some better use of the path to Toontown from the Matterhorn, plus some better use of the former Motor boat area next to the Matterhorn.

Not a carbon copy of Florida. But an upgrade.

[disneylandreport]

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Disneylands still has a ton of charm but it is disturbed in my opinion with the transition to tomorrow land and I feel it should be bigger and grander. I say get rid of toon town and put roger rabbit in DCA.

I believe that it is the wide open, plenty of room for everything nature of Walt Disney World that makes it the bigger, but lesser loved younger brother of Disneyland. In my humble opinion, the fact that all those lands blend together so well is a testament to the abilities of the imagineers.

[greenalfonzo]

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Shelby you should watch this video: Preview of New Fantasyland at the Magic Kingdom - Behind the Walls and Inside! - YouTube

It may be just me, but looking at those fantastic castle rooms, all I could think is they need to put in an omnimover track, and fill the rooms with more animatronics and they'd have the best Fantasyland ride ever.