Changes to Luigi's Flying Tires

[frollofan]

Disney already changing Cars Land ride | disney, balls, cars - Entertainment - The Orange County Register

Luigi's Flying Tires are going to be faster than before by removing the weight in the undercarriage of the vehicles that was going to be used for a joystick to control the vehicles.
Please post your thoughts, but keep any debates that form civil please.

[ohmyjustin]

Re: Changes to Luigi's Flying Tires

How much faster could the tires be after this change? And what weight are they removing that isn't necessary for supporting the passengers?

[Fooferah]

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It's too bad that they had to remove the spinning capability and control just because someone didn't get it. If you're smart enough to figure out how to move in the tire, I'm sure you could figure out how to use the joystick.

The 20lbs removed from the mechanism doesn't sound like it's going to make a huge difference.

And I still maintain that the slow load time is because of the stupid collecting the tiles thing, and not the beach balls!

[frollofan]

Re: Changes to Luigi's Flying Tires

the mechanism that was going to be used for the joystick to control the vehicles, but now that they didn't go with that plan in the end, it is the unncessary weight that should be removed in order to make the tires increase speed. I provided a link to an OC register article to answer some of those questions.

[disneylandreport]

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I'm all for making them faster!

[brenden]

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I knew those balls couldn't be permanent. Glad to see they're making the appropriate tweaks to improve the attraction!

[mycroft16]

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It will make a difference. Small amounts are removed from thousand pound cars with noticeable effects in bhp and handling improvements.

Look at it this way, that is 20lbs less of inertia you have to overcome to get the thing to move/stop.

[DLFan1995]

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20 pounds is negligible in the overall weight of the tires. Passenger weights have more of an impact than that 20 lbs would provide.

[CMinParadise]

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It's too bad that they had to remove the spinning capability and control just because someone didn't get it. If you're smart enough to figure out how to move in the tire, I'm sure you could figure out how to use the joystick.

Except the joystick just wasn't effective. Riders fixated on it, when all it really accomplished was a very gradual spinning motion. There was nothing to figure out, except that it was better to just ignore the joystick.

The 20lbs removed from the mechanism doesn't sound like it's going to make a huge difference.

Time will tell. It certainly wont slow down the tires!

And I still maintain that the slow load time is because of the stupid collecting the tiles thing, and not the beach balls!

It's not an either/or situation. Both slow down the process but the beach balls were a much bigger factor. And removing the 'tiles' would make it easier for CM's to accidentally skip tires during the restraint check, which is an unacceptable outcome for safety reasons.

[bigwavedave]

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I gota say I am really wanting to go on this one so I hope any changes aren't too grastic and leaving well enough alone. Beside it sounds like this one despite all of the concerns is really starting to catch on

[Sambo]

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I don't see how removing the joystick and the Beach balls is an improvement. Twenty pounds will not yield a faster loading time. However, if it's not needed and it's adds no thematic value - why keep it?

[OfficeDepot14]

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Removing the joystick infastructure? Why not just remove the entire attraction with it. I strongly believe that even with the changes Luigis will still lack the fun and excitment RSR and MJJ have provided guests. One day we will be saying "remember Luigis flying tires?"

[themur]

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Every little bit helps. Watching the tires the other day, experienced riders have no problems getting the tire to move all over the rink and at a pretty good speed.

Balls were nice to start but having them eliminated will help in the long run.

[goldenstate5]

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The most I can say that this gives me a slight incentive to wait in that murderous line again.

[OfficeDepot14]

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Yes exactly, why remove 20 pounds from the tires when they're going to be sat on by a person 200+ pounds

[calsig31]

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I don't see how removing the joystick and the Beach balls is an improvement. Twenty pounds will not yield a faster loading time. However, if it's not needed and it's adds no thematic value - why keep it?

This is the quote of the day. I think that we would all be mad if we found out that they left this dead weight on the ride because they felt it was too expensive to remove. Better to just get rid of it.

On another note, that quote is also applicable to so many things.

Disney characters on Small World:

However, if it's not needed and it's adds no thematic value - why keep it?

Johnny Depp and Squid Face Dude on Pirates:

However, if it's not needed and it's adds no thematic value - why keep it?

Pirate elements on Tom Sawyer Island:

However, if it's not needed and it's adds no thematic value - why keep it?

British bear replacing American hill-billy bears in an American Wilderness:

However, if it's not needed and it's adds no thematic value - why keep it?

Futuristic exploration under the polar icecap replaced by a DVD of a cartoon fish:

However, if it's not needed and it's adds no thematic value - why keep it?

Did I mention that I love this quote?

[Fooferah]

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Except the joystick just wasn't effective. Riders fixated on it, when all it really accomplished was a very gradual spinning motion. There was nothing to figure out, except that it was better to just ignore the joystick.

That's a much better explanation than what was given in the article.

I've noticed on the several times I've ridden that the important thing for a faster, smoother ride is to make sure you don't "bottom out" when leaning. After the first time that happens, you can easily notice the feel of the lead edge of the tire dragging if you've leaned too far. Controlling that with two people in the tire is the biggest learning curve I've experienced so far, and even that wasn't too bad.

Over all, I just found the ride a lot more fun than I thought it would be, but for me, a lot of that had to do with the balls (which I realize isn't the argument for this thread anyway).

[ShelbyH]

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My experience with LFT is that the heavier the tire is, the more difficult it is to move, whether that be heavier passengers or a heavier start load. Kids tend to zip around like nobody's business, whereas two large adults have a difficult time. There is also a "sweet spot" in controlling the tire in which you lean just far enough but not too far to go. Finding that sweet spot between two passengers can be quite difficult--on your own? Fairly easy. Tipping too far slows you down or stops you. Bending over to pick up a beach ball usually corresponds with tipping too far, so you get a lot of people who aren't going anywhere, trapping other people. I think that both of these changes will result in easier to maneuver tires and a more satisfying ride.

[socalkdg]

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Yes exactly, why remove 20 pounds from the tires when they're going to be sat on by a person 200+ pounds

That is a 10% reduction based off 200 pounds. It is also possible that the bottoming out effect that slows down the tires and been experienced by many could be attributed to the joystick equipment that is being removed.

Since it was a fun ride at current speed, a 10-15% improvement in speed just makes it more enjoyable.

[swampymarsh]

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20 lbs, a speculated amount of mass decreased would help. If you've ridden have you noticed tires that are a lot faster than others?

I have, but felt that I'm faster too. Since I have ridden a bunch of times I know how to work them and assume the other quick tires have the hang of it as well.

I did't see a correlation in lighter weight tires moving faster. Think of tires with two adults, versus a tires that is 50 or 100 pounds lighter with a kid and adult.