[Question] From what I understand, Disney can't build Marvel rides till 2050 at the theme parks.

[Chesire]

Don't quote me on this, but from what I read, Universal Studios has exclusive rights to be the only theme park with Marvel rides, and characters. This was established before Disney's acquisition of Marvel. The contract runs out in 2050.

Doesn't that mean that Disney can't build anything Marvel till 2050, even though Disney owns Marvel?

Again, I'm not a lawyer and I don't know how these things work, but from what I read, wouldn't this be correct?

[sbk1234]

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I, too, may likely be wrong, but my understanding is Universal has them exclusively east of the Mississippi River, allowing Disneyland to have them in California. I don't know. I guess the lawyers have to duke it out.

[Spongeocto4]

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Not sure of the date, BUT the rule does not apply to Universal Studios in Hollywood, meaning Disneyland can use them legally(If i am correct). Also, I wouldn't be surprised if Universal phased out their Marvel themed rides, as Universal is more willing to remove old attractions compared to Disneyland.

[jasmineray]

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SBK is correct. Theme parks on the east of Mississippi, aka WDW cannot use Marvel. DLR is more than welcomed to, and any other park on the West coast.

[DrFink]

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If Disneyland can use Marvel that would give more incentive for people to visit there over Disneyworld.

[Chesire]

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Ugh, that really annoys me.

Besides Tomorrowland, Marvel doesn't really belong anywhere in Disneyland.

On the other hand, in Walt Disney World, you have Epcot, Disney's Hollywood Studios, and Tomorrowland.

Unless of course they build a third theme park based on Marvel, which I wouldn't be against; it would keep Marvel out of Disneyland and California Adventure.

[DrFink]

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The only idea I have liked so far in regards to the inclusion of Marvel into a Disney park is the replacement of Innovations with a Stark Expo. The ideas of Marvel themed rollercoasters and stuff is not appealing to me at all. People are just trying to turn Disneyland into a Six Flags or Universal Studios.

[jasmineray]

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Apparently Imagineers have already started coming up with ideas for the Marvel third gate. Stark Expo would work in Tomorrowland but that's it. Besides that, I haven't heard of any other ideas to put Marvel in either park.

[DARTH MAUL]

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I wish it were true, although 2050 still isn't far away enough. They do not belong in a Disney park.

[Giant Panda]

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For the right price, Universal will let Disney build Marvel rides anywhere they please. Contracts can always be "bought".

[mycroft16]

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Besides Tomorrowland, Marvel doesn't really belong anywhere in Disneyland.

Marvel has over 7,000 characters in their catalog. They have a cowboy whose family was killed by horse thieves so he turns lawman (Frontierland). They have a woman who leaves life in the big city to live in the Jungle (Adventureland, actually matches some of the character stories developed by WDI for Jungle Cruise). There are Marvel characters you've never dreamed existed that work in all of the lands.

[Slappypunk]

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I think Disney should keep it Disney. Why put in Marvel attractions? I think that Universal Studios should have the Marvel attractions, or even Magic Mountain.

[biggsworth]

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Marvel has over 7,000 characters in their catalog. They have a cowboy whose family was killed by horse thieves so he turns lawman (Frontierland). They have a woman who leaves life in the big city to live in the Jungle (Adventureland, actually matches some of the character stories developed by WDI for Jungle Cruise). There are Marvel characters you've never dreamed existed that work in all of the lands.

Nice post I completely agree. Just like Indiana Jones and Star Wars we have seen it can be worked in tastefully. I would welcome that to the parks.

[mainejeff]

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The only idea I have liked so far in regards to the inclusion of Marvel into a Disney park is the replacement of Innovations with a Stark Expo. The ideas of Marvel themed rollercoasters and stuff is not appealing to me at all. People are just trying to turn Disneyland into a Six Flags or Universal Studios.

Coasters need not be bare bones thrill experiences like found at Knotts or Six Flags.

Also, I love how you grouped Six Flags and Universal .........bit of a difference there.

[bheuett]

I myself dont believe marvel belongs. They might have 7,000 characters in their catalog, but disney has enough characters in their disney/pixar repertoire to keep things coming for years. They are even making more as we speak. So why tap into a source that they didnt create? And i know people are going to give me grief about pixar. They are still more disney to me than marvel

[Chesire]

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Marvel has over 7,000 characters in their catalog. They have a cowboy whose family was killed by horse thieves so he turns lawman (Frontierland). They have a woman who leaves life in the big city to live in the Jungle (Adventureland, actually matches some of the character stories developed by WDI for Jungle Cruise). There are Marvel characters you've never dreamed existed that work in all of the lands.

I understand, but to the everyday guest, they're not well-known characters. Why bring in (to the ordinary guest) unknowns when Disney has even more characters that can go with the lands? Unless they go with an E-Ticket ride, I don't see them bringing in attendance.

[mycroft16]

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I understand, but to the everyday guest, they're not well-known characters. Why bring in (to the ordinary guest) unknowns when Disney has even more characters that can go with the lands? Unless they go with an E-Ticket ride, I don't see them bringing in attendance.

Because Iger and Feige stated that they wanted to work with the vast untapped potential of the Marvel catalog by using unknown characters. It is a great way to plus and expand on the stories already in place at both by joining them together. And why would they have to be well known to use them?

My point is that blanket statements about Marvel being bad aren't necessarily true. There are definite ways they could work well in any land.

[flynnibus]

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Don't quote me on this, but from what I read, Universal Studios has exclusive rights to be the only theme park with Marvel rides, and characters. This was established before Disney's acquisition of Marvel. The contract runs out in 2050.

East of the Missippippi.. and there is no expiration on the use of things they already have. Until Uni is ready to be bought out of the deal.. Disney can't do much about it.

[DisneylandTraveler]

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I understand, but to the everyday guest, they're not well-known characters. Why bring in (to the ordinary guest) unknowns when Disney has even more characters that can go with the lands? Unless they go with an E-Ticket ride, I don't see them bringing in attendance.

Not quite understanding this. The term "ordinary guest" is quite subjective. More people will have seen The Avengers in a theater this year than set foot in all Disney Parks combined. The other thing is Disney actually has a relatively small catalog of truly original characters. Most Disney characters have either been acquired (Pooh, Poppins, etc.) or come out of the public domain (Snow White, Pinocchio, Aladdin, etc.). Where Disney has really succeeded is copyrighting character likenesses that come out of the public domain which give the illusion that Disney owns the characters (i.e. Disney does not own the 7 dwarfs, they do own the likenesses of Grumpy, Bashful, etc.)

An attraction based Marvel presence will come to Southern California as a 3rd gate or within the confines of existing Disney parks simply because it is a potential huge revenue stream for the Walt Disney Company. Is one person going to refuse set foot in Disneyland because there is an Avengers or Iron Man attraction in there? Chances are no. On the other hand, if Disneyland announced a Marvel based attraction or two would be put in Tomorrowland and started leaking out concept art and models, the the anticipation and hype would bury the considerable attention Cars Land received.

[DrFink]

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Coasters need not be bare bones thrill experiences like found at Knotts or Six Flags.

Also, I love how you grouped Six Flags and Universal .........bit of a difference there.

I know they don't need to be bare bones thrill coasters, but some people are suggesting them. I just don't think Disneyland is the place for something like that.

And I wasn't necessarily lumping Six Flags and Universal together. I was simply listing other theme parks