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  • Trip Report DLR Sept 24-29 Fun in the Sun and the First MHP [**WARNING: Strong Opinions Ahead**]

    DISNEYLAND RESORT TRIP REPORT SEPTEMBER 24-29, 2012





























    Chick-a-Pin Hill




    Rocket to the Sun








































    For ppl who like statistics, we spent the following times in each location:
    DCA: 35%
    DTD: 5%
    DLP: 60%






















    Tour Eiffel.
    Paris, the city of light (not the media-whore) is my other favorite place on this planet.




    lease...
    NSFW in most cases. "How to be a Heart Breaker"
    ♡ PART 7: "HOW TO BE A HEARTBREAKER" ♡ | MARINA AND THE DIAMONDS - YouTube













































    Our flight programmer to Hoth and Tatooine











    BTMRR: Hurry up and fix it. It was down too much, and they were often running only one side with limited trains. They would use the left side for exit only and the right side was enter & exit. Part of me suspects this was an effect of improper staffing for most of the week.
    POTC
    Splash
    Space
    Monorail: is it normal for it to be less of a draw than other E-tickets? Maybe we lucked out the times we rode it, but there was no line, even on Wednesday during the resort-wide overcrowding.
    RSR: we loved it and it is a wonderful addition to the Disney mountain range and I can see it becoming a favorite for me just like Indy. Rockwork is a true art form and I appreciate it just as I would any art or craftsmanship. I cannot express how stunning the rockwork is! We took a couple closer shots of it in line.

    LFT & JYJ
    MHP




















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    Re: DLR Sept 24-29 Fun in the Sun and the First MHP [**WARNING: Strong Opinions Ahead

    Great trip report... Thank you so much for sharing!!

    My mom and I got confused about the AP processing too. Luckily, I went to the ticket booth to ask where to go and the CM goes "Well, Here of course, you're in the right place!" I'm not a local AP'er and we've only gone like on 4 3-day trips this year but between the savings on parking, the discounts and being able to go whatever dates we want to, it is soooo worth it!

    And I do thank you for sharing your opinions even if they're not the most 'popular', the abuse of the GAC really does disgust me because all I can think is when people abuse it like I have seen in the parks, then all they're doing is making people with actual special needs suffer through longer waits than necessary/harassment from other guests because for every 1 legitimate GAC, there's 12 that are abusing the GACs . I really wish park security/Management could figure out a way to solve this problem ASAP!

    I'm happy to see that you and your SO had lots of fun and thanks for the info about the crowds and the MHP event

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    • #3
      Re: DLR Sept 24-29 Fun in the Sun and the First MHP [**WARNING: Strong Opinions Ahead

      Hi Jay! Love your trip report!

      I can really relate. There are so many things to be "bugged" about at the parks, compared to years gone by, but still we love to visit! The good far outweighs the bad, I guess.

      The pics are great and give a real feel for what you experienced each day.

      The GAC dilemma is one I doubt will ever get better. The federal laws that address this issue are very strict. Fortunately I believe in Karma (seem to remember you do too : ) Its amazing how blatant they are getting. I choose to ignore them when I can and just bask in the magic of the parks.

      I also agree with all your not-so-flowery opinions about customer service and how Disney could do so much more with manning the place when things are so busy. Its easy to see that before Carsland opened and brought so many more crowds, they staffed the parks by old numbers. Shame on them.

      We will be there soon, leaving Seattle and driving to arrive Tues after next. We bought our first AP's last November and this will be our 3rd trip in that year. Talk about getting our money's worth. But this will be our last visit for a very long time. Prices are up, magic is declining, and there are, contrary to popular belief, many other great vacation destinations to visit and enjoy. You said Paris is a favorite. Mine too. I LOVE Europe and next year will finally go back.

      Your report helps me brace myself for big crowds and little annoyances, but still a happy magical time!

      Thanks for the great TR. Happy you had a wonderful time even with the occasional bumps!
      Last edited by GraceLovesGoofy; 10-01-2012, 04:18 AM.
      [Half awake] How many cups of sugar does it take to get to the moon?

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      • #4
        Re: DLR Sept 24-29 Fun in the Sun and the First MHP [**WARNING: Strong Opinions Ahead

        This cracked me up XD

        I hear you though on some of the issues you had but I hope you still had a good time (which I'm sure you did)!

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        • #5
          Re: DLR Sept 24-29 Fun in the Sun and the First MHP [**WARNING: Strong Opinions Ahead

          Thanks for a great TR! I hope they adjust the staffing quickly, before next week would be perfect, but I doubt it will happen.


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          • #6
            Re: DLR Sept 24-29 Fun in the Sun and the First MHP [**WARNING: Strong Opinions Ahead

            We just spent Fri.-Sun. in the parks and it was HOT and CROWDED. We decided to leave each afternoon and go back to our hotel for 4 or 5 hours to escape the madness.

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            • #7
              Re: DLR Sept 24-29 Fun in the Sun and the First MHP [**WARNING: Strong Opinions Ahead

              Originally posted by metchick01 View Post
              And I do thank you for sharing your opinions even if they're not the most 'popular', the abuse of the GAC really does disgust me because all I can think is when people abuse it like I have seen in the parks, then all they're doing is making people with actual special needs suffer through longer waits than necessary/harassment from other guests because for every 1 legitimate GAC, there's 12 that are abusing the GACs . I really wish park security/Management could figure out a way to solve this problem ASAP!
              As someone with a legit disability, I can say that I agree with you! I hate feeling like people think I'm 'bad' for using a service I need. This wouldn't happen if there was less abuse. I tend to call people out if they are obviously not disabled. I know that there are invisible disabilities, and tend to err on the side of caution, but when people brag about 'cheating' the system, I get really upset.

              I have the unpopular opinion that documentation should be mandatory. I'd happily bring a script or Dr. note if it meant there was less abuse. People who pretend to be disabled really make me sick. It minimizes what we go through and vilifies us with able-bodied people. I think truly disabled people would happily trade places and be able to walk the stairs and blend in.

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              • #8
                Re: DLR Sept 24-29 Fun in the Sun and the First MHP [**WARNING: Strong Opinions Ahead

                Was at DL the same exact days as you. And I so agree with most of your comments - crowds out of control, very polite Australian tourists, very bratty local kids, management ignoring the crowd issue.

                You didn't say much about Mickey's Halloween Party. I attended on Friday 9/28 and found it beyond crowded. New Orleans Square was a mess of people trying to find the HM line, the candy line or their way out. That was where I got pushed out of the way by a woman trying to park her stroller - into the space i was occupying.

                The HB is my favorite spot in DL. So keep that secret. ha!!!!

                Thanks for the info on the GAC - never heard of that before but did see so many people with cards entering through ride exits. Didn't see anyone who looked like they were disabled in any way. One family was laughing when they showed the card and jumped right onto Big Thunder. Oh well.

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                • #9
                  Re: DLR Sept 24-29 Fun in the Sun and the First MHP [**WARNING: Strong Opinions Ahead

                  I honestly thought there were VIP passes or something as groups were literally running from one ride to the next, flashing their special ticket, and getting in a far shorter line. It wasn't until I asked a CM what they had that I realized I was witnessing the dreaded GAC abuse!
                  L + L = R

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                  • #10
                    Re: DLR Sept 24-29 Fun in the Sun and the First MHP [**WARNING: Strong Opinions Ahead

                    Originally posted by skoolpsyk View Post
                    i honestly thought there were vip passes or something as groups were literally running from one ride to the next, flashing their special ticket, and getting in a far shorter line. It wasn't until i asked a cm what they had that i realized i was witnessing the dreaded gac abuse!
                    omg!!!!!
                    [Half awake] How many cups of sugar does it take to get to the moon?

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                    • #11
                      Re: DLR Sept 24-29 Fun in the Sun and the First MHP [**WARNING: Strong Opinions Ahead

                      I'll be attending DL with my wife, her teen brother and adult sister, and my DD, who has a disability that means sun exposure gives her cancer 10,000 times faster than others. Basically, she cannot be exposed to the sun.

                      We'll be running from ride to ride - because we can't stand in the sunlight. Shade doesn't help either- the UV rays still affect her.

                      We don't have mobility issues. We'll move fast and have a blast. We don't plan to abuse the system, and we'll wait in lines after dark and inside, but just be careful that you don't judge too quickly.
                      -Tennor-
                      http://www.AnnaLiberty.Wordpress.com

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                      • #12
                        Re: DLR Sept 24-29 Fun in the Sun and the First MHP [**WARNING: Strong Opinions Ahead

                        Thx! Perfect mix pix & text.

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                        • #13
                          Re: DLR Sept 24-29 Fun in the Sun and the First MHP [**WARNING: Strong Opinions Ahead

                          I went last year during one of the Halloween party weeks. We weren't expecting such large crowds for October, but I guess school breaks contribute to that. It wasn't a horrible experience overall, but I get cranky when I visit Disneyland and I feel like I barely get to do anything.

                          Glad ypto hear you enjoyed yourself though. The decorations really are great this time of year.

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                          • #14
                            Re: DLR Sept 24-29 Fun in the Sun and the First MHP [**WARNING: Strong Opinions Ahead

                            Originally posted by Tennor View Post
                            I'll be attending DL with my wife, her teen brother and adult sister, and my DD, who has a disability that means sun exposure gives her cancer 10,000 times faster than others. Basically, she cannot be exposed to the sun.

                            We'll be running from ride to ride - because we can't stand in the sunlight. Shade doesn't help either- the UV rays still affect her.

                            We don't have mobility issues. We'll move fast and have a blast. We don't plan to abuse the system, and we'll wait in lines after dark and inside, but just be careful that you don't judge too quickly.
                            See but this is what I'm talking about, you and your family have legitimate needs for a GAC, and instead of you guys just being able to get the assistance you need and enjoy your days at DLR, you have to worry about other guests 'judging' you/the need for your GAC...That's what's shameful about the whole thing, that upstanding Guests have witnessed such abuse of this program that they've become of the mind set that everyone is 'cheating' the system and they tend to forget that some people/families do need and rely on those GACs to get through their trip to DLR.

                            Ugh, Management needs to at least attempt to fix these issues, ASAP.

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                            • #15
                              Re: DLR Sept 24-29 Fun in the Sun and the First MHP [**WARNING: Strong Opinions Ahead

                              I completely agree about the GAC's, people that really need them are being made to feel like they're cheating. We might have to use a wheelchair for our 15 year old son for our trip next week because he tore his ACL and can only stand/walk for short periods so will need the wheelchair most of the time. It's sad that I am worried about looking like a cheater. I am all for the idea of having to show a doctor's note before receiving a GAC. I don't understand why that's not required?

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                              • #16
                                Re: DLR Sept 24-29 Fun in the Sun and the First MHP [**WARNING: Strong Opinions Ahead

                                Thanks for the report, JMazz! I was there all last week as well. I was very disappointed in the crowds. We had planned these dates because we figured the resort would be rather empty. It seemed worse than June crowds at times! Friday morning was a sweet surprise, however. When we got to the rope drop, there were only a handful of people waiting, and my family and I literally walked on every E-ticket ride in Disneyland plus a few within the first hour and a half. Maybe few people realized it opened at 8 am that day?

                                Anyway, Friday night was horrific. Everyone was ushered out of DL and into DCA and it was a nightmare. We left pretty quickly. I felt cheated that I had payed good money for my family to go to Disneyland, and we were ushered out of the park and told that if we wanted to stay the rest of the evening that we had to purchase an additional admission ticket for each member of my family. Wait a minute!.....I already paid.

                                I was also disappointed that EVERY DAY was a magic morning admission to both parks! We had no chance to beat the crowds because they were already there before the park even opened......every day. I could see maybe every other day, or maybe alternating between the two parks, but magic mornings every day for both parks? That irritated me.

                                Bottom line, we really enjoyed our trip, but I feel like Disney is too much about the money now, and there are too many things happening (Halloween parties, magic mornings every day, etc). I'd like a chance of beating the crowds, but Disney only gives that opportunity to those who are willing to spend more.
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                                • #17
                                  Re: DLR Sept 24-29 Fun in the Sun and the First MHP [**WARNING: Strong Opinions Ahead

                                  I don't see how it's so hard to fix. They have remote notification devices for dining reservations; just use something similar for the GACs. When the wait time is equal to that of the non-disabled guests there will be much less appeal to use it unless it's really needed...
                                  L + L = R

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                                  • #18
                                    Re: DLR Sept 24-29 Fun in the Sun and the First MHP [**WARNING: Strong Opinions Ahead

                                    By the way, were you able to leave the Halloween party and re-enter? I remember that was an issue you were trying to figure out in advance.

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                                    • #19
                                      Re: DLR Sept 24-29 Fun in the Sun and the First MHP [**WARNING: Strong Opinions Ahead

                                      I'm going to check out the Hungry Bear on my next trip. I used to love to hang out at the Gallery, where Dream Suite is located, and I need a new happy place at Disneyland.

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                                      • #20
                                        Re: DLR Sept 24-29 Fun in the Sun and the First MHP [**WARNING: Strong Opinions Ahead

                                        I did kinda skip over the MHP in my report, I think I was just getting tired of typing.

                                        It was crowded. But we figured it would be the MOST crowded part of our trip. It was crowded from late afternoon to close. Since we were exhausted by this time on out trip, we took it in stride. The SS parade was out of whack (time wise). And that's the day we were blocked by the parade route and just caved in and sat there - well... stood there. The timing was off b/c DL closed early this day for the non-event guests.

                                        This is when BTMRR had most of its' issues (as mentioned in my post). Space had some of the same issues, plus a line that was pushing an hour (remember there was no FP - so there was a "level" playing field). They weren't filling the trains. I think one of the CMs at the top level wasn't sending down enough guests to the station. We departed the train and noticed that the line was gone! The CM was holding guests on the upper level, but why? Also I assume that the person working the load was too slow. He/She couldn't fill the slots fast enough. Almost every train had 1-3 empty rows. That really adds up! Anyone know what was going on that night?

                                        With the crowds out of control, DL did soak them up ok most of the night, at least better than we expected! Those candy lines were long as were the M&G lines (we didn't do either).

                                        The fireworks were worth the price according to dear SO. We saw them from SWMall. We hadn't ever been that close to fireworks before. The projections are bigger on the facade than the castle. We didn't get the same pyro FX as the castle, but when they launch, we simply looked towards the castle (behind trees), we loved it!

                                        The magic hour was the time from the end of the fireworks to closing. Many ppl left, or made there way to the last parade (costume parade) and then left. So we bounced from e-ticket to e-ticket using the last of our strength (LOL) during that time. Due to costumes I suppose, Splash had a near walk-on all night and double and triple rides at the last couple hours. For the last 35 min of the night, we went on Splash over and over, with one last trip (the final trip of the night) to HMH before we walked out of the park. Oh the insanity of doing Splash that many times in a row made us laugh maniacalllly! And using a tip from MC, we found the bullet hole on HMH (ignore the background of the ballroom and set your eyes on the garland). My SO said that I ruined it for him! Yikes! But what was mentioned in his TR elsewhere? Yup, that darn bullet hole. So now I know I didn't ruin it for him!

                                        The Halloweentime decor was a bit thin during the week, but the party decor was outstanding. I put a pic up of the old cave from the old mine train in the OP. It shows the fog and glowing lights.

                                        They used "disco" fog in Frontierland, Adventureland, and Fantasyland. However, the ROA was water vapor (I think) and comes from F! ??? Someone help me out here, I haven't seen this show so I am not sure if that is true.

                                        At Fantasyland, the fog machines seemed kinda random, but it was a nice effect anyway.

                                        I was more impressed by the projection all night long on the MSRR Station than the castle.

                                        Many of the trees were lit up to near-xmas caliber. There were also random spinning projections on the ground: BOO! - a ghost - many spiderwebs - random spirals

                                        At one point, a kid screamed MICKEY! And we were both mauled by families and ppl of all ages. It was quite funny. It made us very aware from that point onward of where characters were when they became close to us, esp when they were coming up behind us like Mickey did.

                                        I saw some ppl with TONS of cany, I mean it was spilling out everywhere. Out of bags, out of large bags, even out of strollers! Good for them. It isn't our thing, but I hope those ppl use it for passing out on Oct 31st, that means their $55-$65 ticket just paid for their H'ween stash!!! ...and then some!

                                        As for the GAC comments, I'm not going there in this thread. We can take it elsewhere. I will say that I was not focusing on anyone in particular, and I work with the community, I try to make a better life for many others. As someone else posted (sorry, i forgot who and i am too lazy now to look), they said that it affects others who need GAC. This is so true. If you read this and you genuinely need GAC, then you are golden. But for groups (as mentioned in my OP) to rent scooters and then head to the park? That is stroking the system and taking up space - a footprint more than 2x your standing footprint. You may have just ruined someone's granny's last visit to the happiest place on earth... yikes, it's hard not to get sucked into a debate here.

                                        ---------- Post added 10-02-2012 at 04:58 PM ----------

                                        Originally posted by Reeder View Post
                                        Thanks for the report, JMazz! I was there all last week as well. I was very disappointed in the crowds. We had planned these dates because we figured the resort would be rather empty. It seemed worse than June crowds at times! Friday morning was a sweet surprise, however. When we got to the rope drop, there were only a handful of people waiting, and my family and I literally walked on every E-ticket ride in Disneyland plus a few within the first hour and a half. Maybe few people realized it opened at 8 am that day?
                                        LOL! We slept in. That was day # 5 for us (well, 4.5) ...we needed some sleep. And we arrived by noon and the heat sent us to the hotel. We went again just as they were allowing the wristbands (the overlap).

                                        Where were you on 9-26 (Wednesday), when both park hours were extended. How did you manage that insanity?

                                        ---------- Post added 10-02-2012 at 05:00 PM ----------

                                        Originally posted by sgtfox View Post
                                        By the way, were you able to leave the Halloween party and re-enter? I remember that was an issue you were trying to figure out in advance.
                                        YES.
                                        Thx for the reminder.
                                        No issue what-so-ever. We left to find a friend, returned to a massive line, got in w/ no prob.

                                        ---------- Post added 10-02-2012 at 05:04 PM ----------

                                        Originally posted by whamo View Post
                                        I'm going to check out the Hungry Bear on my next trip. I used to love to hang out at the Gallery, where Dream Suite is located, and I need a new happy place at Disneyland.
                                        This is sooooo my "happy" place.
                                        It is strange. If you look at one of my pics in the OP (excuse it b/c it is quite blurry), you can make out that there are a ton of guests on the main deck (upper) of HB, but the back deck (upper) isn't really used much. It's like ppl want to be near the restaurant window. I don't get it, but I appreciate it. It gave us a quite spot at the busiest of times and I got to commune w/ the ducks. They love sweet'tater fries in case you were wondering! But please don't feed them turkey (someone did this and we were horrified) LMBO!!!

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