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  • JMazz
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    Re: First Planned Attraction for Star Wars Land

    Originally posted by Goofy Daddy View Post




    A link to a an amusement park bloggers opinions is not proof. Especially when held up to a person who has checked the actual patent document and seen who owns the patent by READING the document. Thanks though for the irony of calling other posts and opinions hilarious when your own post falls safely in that category.
    ITA. And this is why I asked him. The opinion of a blogger is never proof. And in this case, it is even more laughable since the blogger him/herself states that he/she is not sure about the facts they think they may have uncovered.

    And would it be unusual that Disney partners with an outside amusment comapny to build a ride? Sounds like this member (Rave) is the one being "hilarious". Off the top of my head, Matty was partly designed by Arrow.

    I dunno if this will be a Disney purchase or used in any parks. But I don't think there is evidence one way or the other....at least not as of this post.

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  • Goofy Daddy
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    Originally posted by Sambo View Post

    Stagnation or failure because of not expanding - forcing tearing out of classic attractions? No evidence.
    You have it backwards. Expanding would allow them to keep things relatively the same in DL with out it stagnating because resort visitors would have so many different things to go to. Not expanding means DL can not stay "the same old thing" if there are no other places to put in new attractions. No alternate gates means the changes to prevent the stagnation would have to be done in the existing parks...which have no room and so something will have to go to yesterland.

    Unless it is your position that DL and DCA could freeze just like they are right now and 20-25 years from now they would be just as popular and relevant as they are today? You have to have some place to keep moving forward with the new stuff and the only way to do that without getting rid of some of the favorite "old stuff" is to expand to other gates.

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  • jchamb268
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    Not buying it.

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  • Sambo
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    Originally posted by Goofy Daddy View Post
    It's too bad you feel this way. DLR needs to grow and it will grow. If it stays a two gate resort, it will eventually either stagnate and fail or will be forced to eventually get rid of even more "classic" attractions in order to fight off stagnation and build new attractions where the old ones once were. How well would you handle THAT change I wonder?
    Curious - this is an interesting opinion, but where is any evidence that Disney Resort is stagnating or failing? In fact the crowds are increasing to uncomfortable numbers. With a slight exception for the Pressler years where there was virtually no maintenance and attractions were becoming stores, there has been nothing but a continuing rise in resort activity.

    Stagnation or failure because of not expanding - forcing tearing out of classic attractions? No evidence.

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  • DJS
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    wait times could equal those of Soarin. This would be horrible! Lol

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  • 4th Gen Disney Fan
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    This looks like it could be a real fun design, but I worry about capacity. There would be some real long wait times for this one....

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  • fifthrider
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    Originally posted by JMazz View Post
    I love chasing down rumors related to Disneyland as much as the next guy, maybe more so.
    Can you, however, explain two things please?

    1. why is this "hilarious"?
    2. how is your link "proof"?

    Agreed. Some people just value being smug over being correct. Well put JMazz.

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  • Disneymike
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    Originally posted by calsig31 View Post
    Nail on the head. Different management system in FL completely.

    There is still no proof in there that this is for a Star Wars ride or that there is a proposed Star Wars Land.
    Agree, patent has no mention anywhere that I could see that involves Disney. Looks to be "Six Flags" style ride mechanics with VERY low capacity.

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  • calsig31
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    Originally posted by Goofy Daddy View Post
    Originally posted by ztonyg View Post
    Because the quality of DL and DCA would suffer. WDW has 4 gates and none of them are as good as either DL or DCA in terms of number of quality attractions, cleanliness, etc.
    You of course have totally incontrovertible proof that the reason these parks are inferior to the CA side parks (you will have many who disagree with that assessment by the way) and they are not as clean is because of the number of parks there right? You will be presenting that proof no doubt? It's not because of different management, different climate, different numbers, etc and/or combination of all. No, it's definitely because of the number of parks and that's it.
    Nail on the head. Different management system in FL completely.
    Originally posted by Ron W View Post
    The document is right here:

    Patent US20090126596 - AMUSEMENT RIDE - Google Patents

    for everyone to see.
    There is still no proof in there that this is for a Star Wars ride or that there is a proposed Star Wars Land.

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  • chesirecat
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    There's a rumor that WDW will, sometime in the next couple years, start construction on a fifth gate. I guess, obviously, a StarWarsland could be part of that. Lucas was very interested in expanding upon Star Wars presence in the theme parks when he discussed why he sold to Disney.

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  • wiigirl
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    Originally posted by DoctorQ9 View Post
    Unfortunately, no! This came from the patent application from Disney.
    Awesome!

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  • Ron W
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    The document is right here:

    Patent US20090126596 - AMUSEMENT RIDE - Google Patents

    for everyone to see.

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  • Disneymike
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    I would hope that ride has provisions for barf bags......

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  • Bongo
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    Very interesting. I am eager to see what they will make with it.

    Also, on the topic of a third gate, I am full for it, but just theming it to Star Wars? That seems a bit much, don't you think? I mean sure, it's worked on the East Coast with the Animal Kingdom and Hollywood Studios, but I still feel that having a larger variety of themed lands other than a Star Wars theme. It's like when Carsland was first announced. I was not really rooting for it because of the rumor that it was going to be a third park on it's own just themed to the Cars franchise. Maybe for starters, a Star Wars and Marvel themed third gate. It will make the Star Wars/Marvel people happy, it will make the people who want a third park happy, and it will make people who want to keep more Marvel/Star Wars out of Disneyland happy.

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  • Goofy Daddy
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    Originally posted by ztonyg View Post
    Because the quality of DL and DCA would suffer. WDW has 4 gates and none of them are as good as either DL or DCA in terms of number of quality attractions, cleanliness, etc.
    You of course have totally incontrovertible proof that the reason these parks are inferior to the CA side parks (you will have many who disagree with that assessment by the way) and they are not as clean is because of the number of parks there right? You will be presenting that proof no doubt? It's not because of different management, different climate, different numbers, etc and/or combination of all. No, it's definitely because of the number of parks and that's it. Cool. I will await that proof to be posted anxiously.

    ---------- Post added 11-05-2012 at 02:23 AM ----------

    Originally posted by Rave View Post
    The fact that someone thinks is in someway related to a newly created Star Wars ride is hilarious.

    But I don't think this patent is even from Disney. If I recall correctly, this is actually a concept from Premiere/S&S

    EDIT: Its definitely a S&S design. Proof. This rumor is completely 100% utterly wrong
    A link to a an amusement park bloggers opinions is not proof. Especially when held up to a person who has checked the actual patent document and seen who owns the patent by READING the document. Thanks though for the irony of calling other posts and opinions hilarious when your own post falls safely in that category.

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  • ztonyg
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    Originally posted by calsig31 View Post
    I really don't understand this. Unless someone has an interest in the property where a third gate would be located, it really wouldn't affect them. If they didn't like the third gate, they don't have to go, but why begrudge the opportunity to those who would enjoy it?
    Because the quality of DL and DCA would suffer. WDW has 4 gates and none of them are as good as either DL or DCA in terms of number of quality attractions, cleanliness, etc.

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  • JMazz
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    Originally posted by Rave View Post
    The fact that someone thinks is in someway related to a newly created Star Wars ride is hilarious.

    But I don't think this patent is even from Disney. If I recall correctly, this is actually a concept from Premiere/S&S

    EDIT: Its definitely a S&S design. Proof. This rumor is completely 100% utterly wrong
    I love chasing down rumors related to Disneyland as much as the next guy, maybe more so.
    Can you, however, explain two things please?

    1. why is this "hilarious"?
    2. how is your link "proof"?

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  • calsig31
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    Originally posted by Spence View Post
    Although I am a Star Wars fan I am totally opposed to ANY Third gate.
    I really don't understand this. Unless someone has an interest in the property where a third gate would be located, it really wouldn't affect them. If they didn't like the third gate, they don't have to go, but why begrudge the opportunity to those who would enjoy it?

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  • Goofy Daddy
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    Originally posted by Spence View Post
    Although I am a Star Wars fan I am totally opposed to ANY Third gate.

    I'm not someone who likes change especially when it's something that has to do with one of my favourite places on earth.

    Ride design looks neat, but I hope it doesn't go anywhere Disneyland.
    It's too bad you feel this way. DLR needs to grow and it will grow. If it stays a two gate resort, it will eventually either stagnate and fail or will be forced to eventually get rid of even more "classic" attractions in order to fight off stagnation and build new attractions where the old ones once were. How well would you handle THAT change I wonder?

    I see no problem with a third gate at DLR and in fact I believe they need to have one (and perhaps a 4th gate eventually) to stay a top, nationally ranked theme park. Whether or not that third gate is exclusively themed to one franchise I am not sold on 100%, but I can still see it as a possibility.

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  • calsig31
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    Originally posted by DoctorQ9 View Post
    Not on the patent app -- Disney typically doesn't go into that level of detail in a patent filing. But check out this concept art and compare it to the original diagram!
    In that case what source do you have that this would be for a third gate?

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