Starbucks coming to Disney parks? I hate their Coffee - who's with me?

[DisneyChrisDotCom]

Re: Starbucks coming to Disney parks? I hate their Coffee - who's with me?

Hello Rhode Islander! Born and raised there. Moved to Los Angeles 7 years ago.

Anyway, I'm not a coffee drinker. I like Starbucks because I like the frappucinos. So they suit me just fine in Disney. BUT, DD is an entity in it's own right, and a lot of people have no idea how huge it is. My family members are coffee people, and I have spent too much time in lines at the drive thru waiting for them to get their 'regular' coffee there. (regular means w/ cream and sugar, in case that's a regional expression.) Some of them base their vacation hotels based on how far they are from a DD. it's a religion for many.

Has anyone had Intelligensia? My coffee friends say that is the best. I have no idea!

Well - I am the opposite of you - I was raised in California - and live in Rhode Island now - but I have since been converted, and worship at the alter of Dunkin Donuts. I just think Starbucks coffee is too bitter. I do not like the flavor, and it is much more expensive than DD. I think mass marketing is the reason for Starbucks success, if people had to choose which coffee tastes best in a blind taste test, I am sure they would pick Dunkin, hands down.

[DrFink]

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I don't drink coffee so it doesn't really make much difference to me. A majority of coffee drinkers I know usually try to find a Caribou Coffee or Dazbog over Starbucks if given a choice.

[Tinkbelle]

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I don't drink coffee. I voted DD just for the reasonably priced donuts.

[Disneymike]

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Cool! Do they do 'to go' cups? Are they open early enough to grab one on the way in to the parks?

The Jazz Kitchen Express opens at 8:00 am and you can get the chicory coffee to go along with......beignets!:yea:

Downtown Disney District Restaurant : Traditional New Orleans Cuisine : Ralph Brennan's Jazz Kitchen Restaurant in Anaheim, California

[Stormy]

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The Jazz Kitchen Express opens at 8:00 am and you can get the chicory coffee to go along with......beignets!:yea:

Downtown Disney District Restaurant : Traditional New Orleans Cuisine : Ralph Brennan's Jazz Kitchen Restaurant in Anaheim, California

Chicory coffee it will be for sure, hopefully next Feb or March (fingers crossed, still planning). Unfortunately, I don't think Jazz Kitchen does gluten free beignet so none for me. Tell ya what...you enjoy an extra one for me, ok?

[Meville]

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Well - I am the opposite of you - I was raised in California - and live in Rhode Island now - but I have since been converted, and worship at the alter of Dunkin Donuts. I just think Starbucks coffee is too bitter. I do not like the flavor, and it is much more expensive than DD. I think mass marketing is the reason for Starbucks success, if people had to choose which coffee tastes best in a blind taste test, I am sure they would pick Dunkin, hands down.

You realize that if DD was in the park you would be still be paying top dollar for it?

I also did a quick search and found this: Coffee Wars – The results are in! | Web Communications - Wayne State University Blogs

Now I'm not sure how accurate this is and there is really not definitive, it's just kinda funny where DD is.

[Disneymike]

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Chicory coffee it will be for sure, hopefully next Feb or March (fingers crossed, still planning). Unfortunately, I don't think Jazz Kitchen does gluten free beignet so none for me. Tell ya what...you enjoy an extra one for me, ok?

When I'm there at the end of the month I will do just that

[DisneyIPresume]

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You realize that if DD was in the park you would be still be paying top dollar for it?

I also did a quick search and found this: Coffee Wars – The results are in! | Web Communications - Wayne State University Blogs

Now I'm not sure how accurate this is and there is really not definitive, it's just kinda funny where DD is.

I never had DD so I can't vouch for how good or bad it is. But Kirkland at #1? I've had that before and find it's taste and bitterness to be even worse than Starbucks. And I am not overly fond of Starbucks (but still think its a vast improvement over what Disney used to offer). In a nutshell IMO Kirkland coffee is horrendous.

[Meville]

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I never had DD so I can't vouch for how good or bad it is. But Kirkland at #1? I've had that before and find it's taste and bitterness to be even worse than Starbucks. And I am not overly fond of Starbucks (but still think its a vast improvement over what Disney used to offer). In a nutshell IMO Kirkland coffee is horrendous.

I was wondering about Kirkland, seams odd. I guess it really depends on personal taste. For instance, I really liked the coffee that they served at the All star movies resort last year. Does that mean that it is great coffee? Probably not, but It reminds me of being there.

[DisneyChrisDotCom]

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Disney used to serve Maxwell House - They actually sponsored the Town Square Cafe at one point. I think I would prefer Maxwell House over Starbucks.

[Fantasmic!55]

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My partner works for an independent "mom and pop" coffee house. They only serve arabica coffee, which is higher end, directly from the family owned finca in central America. Here is his opinion: First, in order to mass produce in such high quantity, Starbucks serves robusto, which is a lower grade of Coffee. The reason Starbucks is so popular is in their marketing and their customer service. But their coffee is not as good quality as you can find at other places.

I'm sorry, but this information is completely false. Starbucks only buys and roasts high quality Arabica beans. I respectfully request for you to change the statement to stop spreading this incorrect information.
Arabica coffees are grown above a certain elevation, and are in fact a higher quality coffee. Only 3% of the world's coffee production meets Starbucks high standards, one of those standards being Arabica beans

[Mr Wiggins]

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I'm sorry, but this information is completely false. Starbucks only buys and roasts high quality Arabica beans. I respectfully request for you to change the statement to stop spreading this incorrect information.
Arabica coffees are grown above a certain elevation, and are in fact a higher quality coffee. Only 3% of the world's coffee production meets Starbucks high standards, one of those standards being Arabica beans

Source?

Not of the beans, but of your claim.

[DisneyIPresume]

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I'm sorry, but this information is completely false. Starbucks only buys and roasts high quality Arabica beans. I respectfully request for you to change the statement to stop spreading this incorrect information.
Arabica coffees are grown above a certain elevation, and are in fact a higher quality coffee. Only 3% of the world's coffee production meets Starbucks high standards, one of those standards being Arabica beans

I haven't ruled that out. If you read my post after this I admitted that I could be wrong:

That would have been me. I got this information second hand from someone who is a barista certified by the Barista Guild of America. But either I heard it wrong or he is not correct.

Either way, I would be curious as to how Starbucks is able to roast such a huge quantity of arabica beans. Normally from what I understand roasting arabica beans is a very time intensive process so I would be curious as to how Starbucks is able to accomplish this.

What I would like to know, and perhaps you have the answer, is how do you roast arabica beans in such high quantities and speed that an operation like Starbucks would require in order to produce such high volumes of coffee? From what I understand the roasting process for arabica is a lot different and takes a lot more time to roast a quality product versus robusta which the inferior quality of the bean allows it to be roasted quickly with high heat in large batches.

I am not changing my statement because as you can clearly see I am admitting I could be incorrect. I would love to learn something about Starbucks' roasting process if you or someone could please let me know.

[orbitalpunk]

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Intelligentsia coffee! It's the best coffee on the western hemisphere. And its a California original that started in Venice. There are 5 locations in Cali and some on the east coast. Plus they have the BEST hot coco.

[DisneyChrisDotCom]

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well - Aribica or not - it ain't worth a hill of beans - because Starbucks coffee is too strong and bitter.

[fearmeloveme]

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peets coffee!!!

This! :bow:

[Fantasmic!55]

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Source?

Not of the beans, but of your claim.

My source? Myself, a six year partner at Starbucks. A four year partner a few pages back also stated the correct information. You can also take a look at Starbucks' website, under the "sourcing" section at http://www.starbucks.com/coffee/lear...rs-in-your-cup

DisneyIPresume, there is also information at the link about how Starbucks roasts and blends our coffee.

[Stormy]

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This was taken directly from Starbuck's website. It certainly seems to indicate they use only arabica:

" arabica coffees. In the end, only about 3% of the world’s beans makes it into a bag of our coffee."

http://www.starbucks.com/coffee/learn/flavors-in-your-cup

Starbucks has 4 regional roasting plants which look to be pretty good-sized and run 24/7. Here is an interesting article from ABC news regarding a reporter's 'field trip' to a Starbucks roasting plant:

http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/headlines/2008/04/coffee-addicts/


Is Starbucks as good as, say, Blue Bottle coffee (all Bay Area folk who jumped to stand at attention may now be seated) which is roasted in small batches? No, but I don't think anyone is saying it is. Just the same as a home baked pie isn't as good as one you get in a restaurant. But that isn't to say that just because Starbucks is able to produce large quantities of product means that they aren't good at what they do nor that their coffee isn't a good product. I happen to like their whole bean Sumatra.

Remember also, it's not just the coffee you use, it's how you brew your coffee, too. Crappy coffee (Folgers et al) will always yield a nasty brew, but even with good quality coffee your cup can be less than satisfying if your proportions & equipment aren't good.


edit; don't know why the links didn't post as clickable, but you can cut & paste.
edit edit; fantasmic, you beat me in posting to the Starbucks link.

[Giant Panda]

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There is no accounting for taste. Although it may be helpful to know what beans are used (I'd like to try the ones that are gleaned from cat poop) and how they are processed in the hope of recreating what someone likes, what actually appeals to a person's taste buds cannot be justified. Rest assured that the mouse made a business decision, not a taste decision. That being said, SB is fine with me, and I know what I'm getting. My "Triple Venti Cappacino" is the same (with slight variations on the foaminess - a matter of taste that they can conform to) at each and every SB I visit.


WARNING! OT PORTION: Coffee preferances are like beer preferances. Some people claim to actually prefer Budweiser ... personally I can't stand it. I do prefer the "stronger", more flavorful ales and microbrews. Like beer, coffee is an aquired taste. And while there are many beers that I like there are many that are seldom as available as others. It has gotten better over the years, with fewer and fewer places offering only Bud and their watered-down brethren.

[mainejeff]

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You realize that if DD was in the park you would be still be paying top dollar for it?

I also did a quick search and found this: Coffee Wars – The results are in! | Web Communications - Wayne State University Blogs

Now I'm not sure how accurate this is and there is really not definitive, it's just kinda funny where DD is.

Not very definitive considering that Kirkland (Costco brand) coffee won.

DD is East Coast.......Starbucks is West Coast.......it's that simple. I guarantee you that DD would be more popular at the Florida parks than Starbucks. I'm from New England and love DD.......I really only go to Starbucks during Nov/Dec because I love their holiday drinks (Eggnog Latte, etc). I find it very curious that in this day and age we don't have ANY Dunkin Donuts in CA. Unlike some, I happen to think that they would do very well here.