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  • [Other] Where is all the Latin presence in California Adventure?

    Latino culture in California is very prevalent - 2/5 of the population is Hispanic, 30% speak Spanish, and California was once part of Mexico. At my old school, we were required to take three years of Spanish from 6th to 8th, signs are written in English and Spanish, etc. Besides the restaurant at
    Pacific Wharf, there's nothing! I say Disney needs to do a better job at including a culture that is brutally important to its past and present.
    Last edited by Chesire; 07-06-2013, 11:24 PM.
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    There's also the Spanish architecture by the Carthay...but I will admit that I can't think of much else.

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    • #3
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      I agree, more Spanish culture would be a welcome addition. It's nice when the have the Mariachi playing in PW, but it would be so much better in an area where it fit. Since DCA also needs more San Francisco I'd combine the ideas into one land with three districts to fit both concepts. Use the space where ITTBaB is for a small Spanish style village area that would be a transition into a new SF area where FFF is now and then a China Town area in the remaining parking lot behind ToT and CL.
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        I grew up in Anaheim. Sadly, Disneyland doesn't reflect the local population and traditions.

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        • #5
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          I'd love for DCA to have an area reflecting the Alta California days. They could reuse some of the props from the old bountiful valley area for a small Ranch area, a boat attraction similar to pirates, and maybe a Zorro attraction

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            Ramone?...

            But seriously Golden Dreams used to feature a segment with Cesar Chavez. But we all know what happened to that show.
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            • #7
              Re: Where is all the Latin presence in California Adventure?

              Disney California Adventure's permanent facilities celebrate and entertain with things that unite us as Californians, not that define our differences.

              While there are various cuisines found in DCA; Italian, Asian, Central American, Greek, American, none of those are inherent to California, they are found in nearly every modern community anywhere (especially the dumbed-down theme park menu versions). Disney has also done a FANTASTIC job in the last decade of offering seasonal exhibits and entertainment aimed at specific sub-cultures of Americans. No other theme park can boast the various cultural festivals or temporary celebrations built around various cultural holidays or offerings like the Disneyland Resort can.

              Instead of asking "Why isn't there a show/ride/restaurant for Hispanic-Americans or African-Americans or Asian-Americans or Irish-Americans", perhaps it's best to appreciate that All-Americans can enjoy a day at DCA full of fabulous rides and entertainment like Radiator Springs Racers or Soarin' or Tower of Terror or World of Color and enjoy that together, as one happy melting pot of Americans.

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                Originally posted by Westsider View Post
                Instead of asking "Why isn't there a show/ride/restaurant for Hispanic-Americans or African-Americans or Asian-Americans or Irish-Americans", perhaps it's best to appreciate that All-Americans can enjoy a day at DCA full of fabulous rides and entertainment like Radiator Springs Racers or Soarin' or Tower of Terror or World of Color and enjoy that together, as one happy melting pot of Americans.
                In the re-dedication of California Adventure, Mr. Iger specifically references the diversity and rich history of California (people, stories, and land). Spanish culture is an intricate and defining element of California. While Italians, Germans, African-Americans, etc., are a part of the community of California, they do not have history as important as Latinos do. It's not called American Adventure, it's called California Adventure.
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                  Originally posted by Chesire View Post
                  In the re-dedication of California Adventure, Mr. Iger specifically references the diversity and rich history of California (people, stories, and land). Spanish culture is an intricate and defining element of California. While Italians, Germans, African-Americans, etc., are a part of the community of California, they do not have history as important as Latinos do. It's not called American Adventure, it's called California Adventure.
                  An Italian founded Bank of America in San Francisco. African Americans worked the aircraft manufacturing plants during WWII. And even Anaheim itself was settled by Germans in 1850 (hence the German-sounding name). And are you really asking about Spanish culture or Hispanic/Latino culture? Because those are two different things. Spain, along with Italy and Germany, is a country in Europe. A Spanish attraction would be say, a thrill ride themed to the running of the bulls (come to think of it that actually could be pretty cool). You could display Spanish colonialism in California and the missions, but after that you would be looking at Hispanic culture, as the influence of Native Americans vastly changed Spanish culture after they began settling California.

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                    I would love to see more Hispanic culture in DCA. That would be great.
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                    • #11
                      Re: Where is all the Latin presence in California Adventure?

                      Originally posted by Westsider View Post
                      Disney California Adventure's permanent facilities celebrate and entertain with things that unite us as Californians, not that define our differences.

                      While there are various cuisines found in DCA; Italian, Asian, Central American, Greek, American, none of those are inherent to California, they are found in nearly every modern community anywhere (especially the dumbed-down theme park menu versions). Disney has also done a FANTASTIC job in the last decade of offering seasonal exhibits and entertainment aimed at specific sub-cultures of Americans. No other theme park can boast the various cultural festivals or temporary celebrations built around various cultural holidays or offerings like the Disneyland Resort can.

                      Instead of asking "Why isn't there a show/ride/restaurant for Hispanic-Americans or African-Americans or Asian-Americans or Irish-Americans", perhaps it's best to appreciate that All-Americans can enjoy a day at DCA full of fabulous rides and entertainment like Radiator Springs Racers or Soarin' or Tower of Terror or World of Color and enjoy that together, as one happy melting pot of Americans.

                      The Great American Melting Pot. There's something you don't hear much about anymore, in this trendy age of hyphen-Americans.

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                      • #12
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                        DCA has shied away from controversy at every opportunity. What little "edge" they put in to reflect actual facts in history was very limited and nearly cartoonish in the level of caricature it was given.

                        Putting a large Latino presence at the park would infuriate a largish percentage of our country. It would create a group who would attack the presence of the content for political gain. This isn't a time when you can reflect reality - we're not a culture that accepts that at the moment.
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                        • #13
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                          Originally posted by jasmineray View Post
                          I would love to see more Hispanic culture in DCA. That would be great.
                          Says it all, thanks

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                          The Latinos are in line...sorry, can't help myself. Suits sure are missing a marketing opportunity.

                          I am a Gringa who grew up in the Southern California area and was immersed in Spanish and Mexican culture like the OP. To this day I speak Spanish whenever possible. I agree that the romance of Zorro (a Disney property) would bring a wonderful change to a park that doesn't reflect the glory that was Southern California before the Gold Rush and the Anglo Occupation. Not the Missions, tho -- pretty much decimated the happy people who lived here before...

                          As to theme parks, Olvera Street in downtown Los Angeles was always a HUGE part of my childhood. Elementary schools had field trips in those days... Union Station, with the movie stars taking trains in the Carthay Circle days... That whole part of the California Adventure could be transplanted to Disneyland and we'd think they'd Imagineer'd it.

                          But I would gladly forgo any other Latino anything for another one of tbose warm mission Tortillas...I think I ate six. As an Anglo I had never had a fresh tortilla, hot off Mama's oven.

                          Also time, even with the mixed reception to "Princess and Frog," to evolve a Latina Princess.

                          Thank you, Chesire, for bringing up the memories of those tortillas...and a very good point.
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                            Broadly speaking, the history of California consists of three periods: 12,000+ years of Native Californians, three centuries of Spanish exploration, colonization and governance, and a century-and-a-half of American rule.

                            Guess which two periods are not represented at Disney's California Adventure?
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                            • #15
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                              I wonder if there might not also be (at least as an excuse) an aversion to copying Knott's too closely?

                              Fiesta Village. Indian Trails. Ghost Town. They cover an extensive amount of CA's history in broad strokes in ways that are built in to the park (to some extent).
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                                I always thought that they should consider using the Holidays as a way to include the diversity of the state into the park.

                                Disneyland has the big Christmas season showcased as most americans see it. DCA could extend the Holiday feel and look by showcasing how the many diversities of people in CAlifornia celebrate the Christmas Holidays.



                                If done correctly it could be an extension to the small cultural displays/events they do in Disneyland throughout the year. these include Cinco de Mayo, three kings days, Day of the Dead, Chinese New year etc

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                                  Re: Where is all the Latin presence in California Adventure?

                                  Originally posted by Westsider View Post
                                  Disney California Adventure's permanent facilities celebrate and entertain with things that unite us as Californians, not that define our differences.

                                  While there are various cuisines found in DCA; Italian, Asian, Central American, Greek, American, none of those are inherent to California, they are found in nearly every modern community anywhere (especially the dumbed-down theme park menu versions). Disney has also done a FANTASTIC job in the last decade of offering seasonal exhibits and entertainment aimed at specific sub-cultures of Americans. No other theme park can boast the various cultural festivals or temporary celebrations built around various cultural holidays or offerings like the Disneyland Resort can.

                                  Instead of asking "Why isn't there a show/ride/restaurant for Hispanic-Americans or African-Americans or Asian-Americans or Irish-Americans", perhaps it's best to appreciate that All-Americans can enjoy a day at DCA full of fabulous rides and entertainment like Radiator Springs Racers or Soarin' or Tower of Terror or World of Color and enjoy that together, as one happy melting pot of Americans.

                                  The Great American Melting Pot. There's something you don't hear much about anymore, in this trendy age of hyphen-Americans.

                                  Happy Independence Day, friends!
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                                    Maybe it should be called "Californio Adventure" instead. I agree that the Spanish who presumably discovered California, and the Mexicans who colonized it do not have nearly enough presence in this park. They should have kept the Tortilla factory because at least that was one small representation.


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                                      Re: Where is all the Latin presence in California Adventure?

                                      Originally posted by Westsider View Post
                                      Instead of asking "Why isn't there a show/ride/restaurant for Hispanic-Americans or African-Americans or Asian-Americans or Irish-Americans", perhaps it's best to appreciate that All-Americans can enjoy a day at DCA full of fabulous rides and entertainment like Radiator Springs Racers or Soarin' or Tower of Terror or World of Color and enjoy that together, as one happy melting pot of Americans.

                                      The Great American Melting Pot. There's something you don't hear much about anymore, in this trendy age of hyphen-Americans.

                                      Happy Independence Day, friends!
                                      This makes no sense. No one is asking for any attraction "for" latinos, instead the question posed is whether DCA needs a larger presence of attractios celebrating a huge cultural influence to the state.

                                      Just as I have no explicit connection to latino-culture, I have no explicit connection to the National Park culture or Hollywood cultures in California, but I think that those areas of the park still should be included. By subbing in these alternative cultures, we see the absurdity of your argument. How does this read:

                                      "Instead of asking "Why isn't there a show/ride/restaurant for Hollywood-types or outdoorsy folks or car enthusiasts or aviation nuts", perhaps it's best to appreciate that All-Americans can enjoy a day at DCA full of fabulous rides and entertainment like Radiator Springs Racers or Soarin' or Tower of Terror or World of Color and enjoy that together, as one happy melting pot of Americans."

                                      First and foremost... this line of thinking is clearly how we'd end up with a park full of Disney attractions with nothing to do with California. For your argument to have any power at all, you'll have to convince me why car culture is different from latino culture. Don't say that we can't all "unite" in celebrating cultural influence... because as a white guy I can tell you that you don't have to be latino to enjoy a dia de los muertos attraction (Knotts) or tasty Mexican food.

                                      Originally posted by Acpisme View Post
                                      This x1000. We all have heritage, and while there is nothing wrong in celebrating your heritage, people need to have pride in being just an American!
                                      First, the park is about California, not America. Second, for a lot of people, the latino culture is a huge part of "being American," and especially "being Californian" for that matter.
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                                        Originally posted by Chesire View Post
                                        Latino culture in California is very prevalent - 2/5 of the population is Hispanic, 30% speak Spanish, and California was originally part of Mexico. At my old school, we were required to take three years of Spanish from 6th to 8th, signs are written in English and Spanish, etc. Besides the restaurant at
                                        Pacific Wharf, there's nothing! I say Disney needs to do a better job at including a culture that is brutally important to its past and present.
                                        It wasn't originally part of mexico. It was for thousands of years home to Native Americans. Then part of Spain for 100's and only near the end from 1821 to 1850 part of Mexico. Other than that I agree with you.
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