So, what do you think? (more Pixar-based attractions)

[Sters]

of these proposals http://www.jimhillmedia.com/mb/artic...le.php?ID=1270

[MiceMan]

I think that the incredibles themed ride could be amazing ... but I really dislike the woody's roundup idea. REALLY REaLLY!

[Club 33]

If they take out the CoP I will scream. I don't care where I am at the time, I dont care if I'm in space and no one can hear me, I will scream. The fact that they would destroy yet another classic attaction to put in yet another Pixar ride, and a Buzz Lightyear ride no less... RIGHT NEXT OT A BUZZ LIGHTYEAR RIDE. Disney, get a grip! If only there was enough Matt Ouimet for all of the parks...

[MickeyMan]

I am loving those Ideas. The Incredibles ride could be so awsome. and I would love to see something done to that big thunder trail. And since The CoP already lost out to innoventions, I would love to see something in there.

[Sambo]

But Please! More attractions NOT based on Animated features. I've been tired of Buzz for several years now...it's getting old folks.

Nemo Submarine overlay - EEK!

Robocoaster? Yuck! Double Yuck if it is themed around the Incredibles.

[SilentBob66]

[Jspider]

I'm going to dissagree, characters will work but it all depends on their presentation (Splash Mountain being a good representation of good presentation and use of characters, then again Splash is also a good example in that it was done for artistic benifit and not for a quick commercial cash in)

characters should only be used of Disney actualy has a new/good/artistic idea for using them and they should be placed in an area that will compliment the theme/feel of the attraction and the attraction should reciprocate such a compliment. creating a character concentration camp would really mess witht he scope of the park and on the same card characters shouldn't be pluged for the sake of plugging

Buzz is an interesting match for Tomorrowland in that I don't mind him as presented as a stereotype space character but the toy references in the ride are just a bit annoying. Ultimatly I think guests were looking for a ride were they could zap evil aliens because that is a typical aspect of Sci-Fi (Sci Fi being what effects our imaginary views of the future) admitedly I had thought about this type of attraction before but realized that realisum wouldn't be fitting with Disney's family image so a cartoon style version of this was of necessity. Even if Buzz's popularity were to die down I'm sure they'd just do a layover of this attraction that would still leave the guns intact

the carasoul of progress was nice but Tomorrowland ultimatly has ended up with too many sitdown shows I doubt innoventions (something that costs Disney close to nothing) would be replaced by it (which is too bad as the show is classic)

[cellarhound]

Thinking about it... Stratigicly placing Pixar Characters to DCA attractions would have been a better match...

Having toy blasters in TL doesn't make much sense to me... TL is becoming "ToyLand" not "TomorrowLand."

Still, I am very hopefull about the HitchHiker's project... I think it could be a great theme to build on if it is popular enough...

And I am surprised that no one has considered a "National Treasure" themed ride, but how can you make a treasure hunt a ride? I really wished there was a "Colonial America" aspect of DL...

[Disneyfreak]

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO, they need reality type characters for themes. These pixar rides are so cheezy. I went on buzz yesterday for the first time and it was so subpar for me. It was better then pooh but was still underwhelming. We need another ride like 20, 000 leagues under the sea or something. Pixar rides make Disneyland seem so fake and cheap because it seems like all they can accomplish these days is making a cardboard city for a set.

[Momzilla59]

I'm not so keen on the Pixar elements in Disneyland either, but face it, would you ride a ride based on Brother Bear or Home on the Range?
:devil:
I'd like to see something GOOD, and I'm not too particular on the theme. When I say Good I mean an E ticket ride - check out the new technology at

http://archiv.kuka-roboter.de/robocoaster/english/index2.html

They have several videos - I'd sure love to ride a ride like This!

[Emelius_Browne]

I'm not so keen on the Pixar elements in Disneyland either, but face it, would you ride a ride based on Brother Bear or Home on the Range?

Ack, I just threw up a little in my mouth :devil:

[Thriller]

No more movie based rides! If I want to "ride the movies", I'll go to Universal. Geesh. Please, bring back originality!

[ModHatter]

Again, I can't help but go back to the same math...

Number of toon rides outside Fantasyland on opening day = 0
Number of toon rides in New Orleans Square = 0
Number of toon rides in New Tomorrowland '67 = 0

Toon rides only in Fantasyland = Walt
Toon rides outside Fantasyland = Eisner

I like Walt's math better.

[grvtydefy]

While I see your point ModHatter, I do think that besides us Disney Geeks, most people see nothing wrong with toon rides outside of Fantasyland (and ToonTown, now) Actually, whenever I'm at the parks with someone who is not a Disney Geek, they always ask, "Why is there no (insert name of Disney Animated Film here) ride? I loved that movie!" Now, I'm not saying that there should be a ride for every film- not at all. But I think that using cartoons outside of Fantasyland is not a problem. JSpider mentioned Splash Mountain- and I think that is a great example.

[cellarhound]

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO, they need reality type characters for themes. These pixar rides are so cheezy. I went on buzz yesterday for the first time and it was so subpar for me. It was better then pooh but was still underwhelming. We need another ride like 20, 000 leagues under the sea or something. Pixar rides make Disneyland seem so fake and cheap because it seems like all they can accomplish these days is making a cardboard city for a set.

It is extremely underwhelming, but only if you don't buy into the interactivity of the ride... I thought the interactivity was what made it fun...

I still say Pixar rides in DCA may be a good idea...

[BigPigletFan]

Again, I can't help but go back to the same math...

Number of toon rides outside Fantasyland on opening day = 0
Number of toon rides in New Orleans Square = 0
Number of toon rides in New Tomorrowland '67 = 0

Toon rides only in Fantasyland = Walt
Toon rides outside Fantasyland = Eisner

I like Walt's math better.

I must agree with you ModHatter; however, if the attraction is appealing to guests, why not theme it? The reverse happened with POTC and HM. (I'm still waiting on IASW, lol.) But seriously, Buzz is VERY popular. The Star Wars connection is great too- I remember waiting in that line so long when I was little. Thank goodness for a queue line that can keep at 6 year old girl entertained, huh? 20,000 Leagues is just a live-action theme to a sub attraction. Indy is themed too. I totally understand the "cheezyness" of Pixar, but right now that is all Disney has to work on. Stitch, Buzz, Princesses, and Pixar characters sell and that is what guests like. If there were more live-action movies that could be viewed as "classics" and I'm not sure if National Treasure will fall into that category, then fine. But right now it's a world of CGI and that is what they are going with. Too bad it isn't more "even", so to speak.

[ModHatter]

While I see your point ModHatter, I do think that besides us Disney Geeks, most people see nothing wrong with toon rides outside of Fantasyland (and ToonTown, now) Actually, whenever I'm at the parks with someone who is not a Disney Geek, they always ask, "Why is there no (insert name of Disney Animated Film here) ride? I loved that movie!" Now, I'm not saying that there should be a ride for every film- not at all. But I think that using cartoons outside of Fantasyland is not a problem. JSpider mentioned Splash Mountain- and I think that is a great example.

See, most non-Disney geeks I go to the park with ask questions like "What were they thinking with this Pooh ride? That was hideously boring." Rather than getting questions about why [insert movie name here] doesn't have a ride, I usually hear "why DOES this movie have a ride."

That's the great thing about Walt's concept of Disneyland. He knew that he was doing more than animated films. Disney was about a LOT more than that. You can see this in the history of his television shows. He was essentially creating a Something For Everyone show, which previewd his Something For Everyone Land. So, a person could go to Disneyland and not have to be a fan of Disney animation to be a Disney fan. Disneyland had three original lands and Main St. that had virtually nothing to do with Disney animation. That gave it a broad appeal to Disney animation fans and non-fans alike. But as the park becomes more Toonified, it narrows the appeal of the park to just fans of Disney animated product. And let's face it, in this thread we're actually talking about Pixar animated product, which Disney won't have any more anyway without some skilled negotiation.

[grvtydefy]

See, most non-Disney geeks I go to the park with ask questions like "What were they thinking with this Pooh ride? That was hideously boring." Rather than getting questions about why [insert movie name here] doesn't have a ride, I usually hear "why DOES this movie have a ride."

Hmm, the people I go with actually think pooh is a step above the other Fantasyland Dark Rides (besides Peter Pan). I actually agree with them, but that's a completely different subject. I guess it's just a matter of opinion whether or not you like seeing Toon rides or not.
I'm curious- How do you feel about Splash?

[ModHatter]

Hmm, the people I go with actually think pooh is a step above the other Fantasyland Dark Rides (besides Peter Pan). I actually agree with them, but that's a completely different subject. I guess it's just a matter of opinion whether or not you like seeing Toon rides or not.
I'm curious- How do you feel about Splash?

Well, as I've stated elsewhere, Splash is good for two reasons. 1) Even though Disney won't release SotS, it is an Oscar-quaity film that stands the test of time. 2) Splash woud have been a good ride even without SotS characters. It's a fun drop, and even more impressive is the little flume "bunny hill" you take after one of the other drops. But Splash began as a RIDE that people wanted, and SotS was added later. But the current Disney approach seems to be to take current hits, and then to just put them in a Fantasyland dark ride, or even worse, as a cheap overlay for an FL-stye dark ride that was so bad it closed.

And, one last thought... most people I have gone on Pooh with think it lacks the storytelling of the FL dark rides, AND doesn't have any new effects. But, more importanty, they tend not to care much for the dark rides, OR they do want to go since they haven't been one one in ages, but they come away from most thinking they were better off having their pleasant chidhood memories, because the reality isn't very satisfying. Once you've seen the E Tickets of dark rides (PotC, HM, and even Indy and iasw), the FL versions tend to pale in comparison.

[grvtydefy]

I think that reason #2 you gave is huge, and I totally agree. The idea for a great ride needs to exist first, or the movie has to just scream MAKE ME A RIDE!!! ( Like I believe the Doors sequence of Monsters Inc. does, too bad that's not what the ride will be.) Just throwing characters somewhere because they are popular doesn't work well.