Submarine Voyage Needs To Reopen! Now!

[mp3piratesavvy]

Is it just me, or should they just re-start the subs for the 50th? They say they 'destroyed the molds'....HOW HARD COULD IT BE TO RE-CREATE FISH MOLDS!?!?!?!? Why not re-open it in time for the 50th, and advertise it as "a refurbished classic", slash "See it now before its too late"/the new Nemo ride comes. If they started NOW, it should be ready by May 5th, or July 17th, 2005.

Your Thoughts..............?

[Disneyfreak]

The subs are not in any condition to run a crowd 24/7. It is amazing how the subs still run; it almost defies time and logic by actually being able to do laps on the track without refurbishment for almost 7+ years. The ride is determined to come back in some form. The sets are almost completely gone so therefore it cannot come back unless you want to just go in a deteriorated sub with no audio and no scenes.

[mp3piratesavvy]

thats not what im saying. it shouldnt be that hard to re-create fish molds. Really. how hard is it to create a fish mold? Its like the cheapest ride you could 'build'. a bunch of plastic scenes. all they would have to do is drain the lagoon, and replace each and every scene! if they started now, they could have it ready in time.

and i DO think they are going to use the old subs

[Disneyfreak]

thats not what im saying. it shouldnt be that hard to re-create fish molds. Really. how hard is it to create a fish mold? Its like the cheapest ride you could 'build'. a bunch of plastic scenes. all they would have to do is drain the lagoon, and replace each and every scene! if they started now, they could have it ready in time.

and i DO think they are going to use the old subs

I am not an expert at making molds for animatronics but my gut feeling is that

1. Too expensive for a temp opening
2. Takes too long
3. They are going to redo it anyway after the 50th so why invest the money.

There is a lot of stuff that you dont see that is wrong with the attraction. It would cost millions just to get it back to running order the old way.

[Malibu Minion]

How can they?

It takes time & money, which they don't have right now.


They have already spent tons of money on the 50th!, which starts next month.

The subs are really old and moldy.

[mp3piratesavvy]

I am not an expert at making molds for animatronics but my gut feeling is that

1. Too expensive for a temp opening
2. Takes too long
3. They are going to redo it anyway after the 50th so why invest the money.

There is a lot of stuff that you dont see that is wrong with the attraction. It would cost millions just to get it back to running order the old way.

they should have thought about that back when they did the '98 rehab of TLAND

Announcing NOW that the subs will temporarily re-open for two years before the Nemo thing would be good because it would be ready for the 50th (theres going to be LOTS and LOTS of ppl for the 50th, so there might as well be as many rides open as possible, that way more people are occupied/not in the walkways crowding DLAND, but in the lines for Rides

just a thought

[almandot]

Well they have to used the old subs for the new ride because they want to avoid the american disabilities act to a certain extent.

And yes, I would ride it without sets(the audio part is easy so they'd have it. and if they didn't i'd provide my own ). I think it'd still be a fun once in a lifetime thing to do.

[Jspider]

they should have thought about that back when they did the '98 rehab of TLAND

Announcing NOW that the subs will temporarily re-open for two years before the Nemo thing would be good because it would be ready for the 50th (theres going to be LOTS and LOTS of ppl for the 50th, so there might as well be as many rides open as possible, that way more people are occupied/not in the walkways crowding DLAND, but in the lines for Rides

just a thought

they DIDN'T think about it then, hindsite is 20/20 or whatnot and Pressler wasn't into the subs at all

it should also be said that everyone DID have a chance to ride the subs one last time and it is recorded as such (with imagineers and fans all getting one last go around on closing day) the day was seen and everyone who wanted to be there was there

they couldn't bring the ride back this fast because it would be an a huge amount of time effort and money which wouldn't be worth it for what they'd make off of it

people knew when the subs were closing that they'd be replaced by something they just didn't know what

subs as the existed are already gone, there was a thread here a while ago that even showed the dragon up for sale on Ebay it was ugly and in horrid shape

[ah schucks]

Is it just me, or should they just re-start the subs for the 50th? They say they 'destroyed the molds'....HOW HARD COULD IT BE TO RE-CREATE FISH MOLDS!?!?!?!? Why not re-open it in time for the 50th, and advertise it as "a refurbished classic", slash "See it now before its too late"/the new Nemo ride comes. If they started NOW, it should be ready by May 5th, or July 17th, 2005.

Your Thoughts..............?

Great if they did manage to get the fish back in the water, what would you ride around in to see it? Having seen the subs, I stand by my statment that the interiors of those subs are covered in mold.

What do you expect when they park them in a damp underground facility and don't take them out very often? I suspect that there are few of the subs that could be salvaged, apparently in this last month, there was a thread where someone pointed one out in the bay but I still doubt they are at all salvagable. Disney can't risk exposing people to mold, imagine the lawsuits from any sick person who visited that ride?

JSpider is right, this is the result of the Pressler administration and even Super CM Matt, can't be super enough to throw a half-assed version of the old Submarines into the bay in time for the 50th. Hindsight is 20/20 and yes a refurb would have been nice but its not so what are we gonna do?

[Gwyren]

....HOW HARD COULD IT BE TO RE-CREATE FISH MOLDS!?!?!?!?

You might be surprised. Runs of custom parts, unlees made in large quantities, are very expensive per part.

[sediment]

I never found the Subs to be all that exciting or interesting. Humid, stinky, wet, long-lined: definitely.

[MckyCrzy]

Is it just me, or should they just re-start the subs for the 50th? They say they 'destroyed the molds'....HOW HARD COULD IT BE TO RE-CREATE FISH MOLDS!?!?!?!? Why not re-open it in time for the 50th, and advertise it as "a refurbished classic", slash "See it now before its too late"/the new Nemo ride comes. If they started NOW, it should be ready by May 5th, or July 17th, 2005.

Your Thoughts..............?

I agree put Nemo and Ariel in there !!!!

[MasterGracey]

I'm sure theres more to fixing the attraction than just the fish molds.

The subs are in very bad shape, I'm sure most of them have a substantial amount of rust and water in them .... even the one they were doing the testing of had a good about of rust on some parts of it... And you know they pulled out the best sub from the caverns to present to the suits. Just imagine how bad that otherones are...

[FigmentJedi]

You know what's occured to me? If they are taking down the Motor Boat Lake down for Nemo, does that mean that the subs will become a Fantasyland attraction or is it just for extending the ride building or what?

[sleepyjeff]

Great if they did manage to get the fish back in the water, what would you ride around in to see it? Having seen the subs, I stand by my statment that the interiors of those subs are covered in mold.

Fill each sub with TIDE with Bleach, drain, rinse and repeat(x10)

[ah schucks]

Fill each sub with TIDE with Bleach, drain, rinse and repeat(x10)

They condemn houses for mold all the time, I don't think the EPA would love this theory. Just like the ACLU doesn't like the access for physically challanged submarine riders. Just another reason for faster, smaller, easy loading subs.

[figment1986]

go find that infomurtial with that magic stuff that removs any stain from metal, wood, & curamic surface... then buy like 100 barels of that stuff.. and have a weekend sub wash.... Working at the sub wash ya....

Then just repaint them with new paint backstage.. and no one would notice anything... (Just put plasma screens on the port holes and show an old movie of the ride..LOL)

[Jspider]

You know what's occured to me? If they are taking down the Motor Boat Lake down for Nemo, does that mean that the subs will become a Fantasyland attraction or is it just for extending the ride building or what?

I don't think they are taking out the Motor boat area for Nemo at all, the areas are pretty far apart i think and I'm doubting how they could connect them as I don't believe even the water areas are connected

there have been rumors of this area going down to be replaced with a kids play area... I'm hopint it's not true because otherwise I can see it being alot like what WDW is getting in their former lagoon area

I've always been one myself to argue that we should get Aquatopia put in that area

I'm sure Al will say next week what he's heard will be placed in that area of the park

[Jspider]

They condemn houses for mold all the time, I don't think the EPA would love this theory. Just like the ACLU doesn't like the access for physically challanged submarine riders. Just another reason for faster, smaller, easy loading subs.

I'm not sure

I've heard the ride can be grandfather claused but that's up to Disney to persue that

the Subs arn't wood so I don't think mold would condem them the way it would a house, that said I'd expect them to completly rebuild them if not make entirly new ons (aka tear out the insides put in better seats paint set pieces and everything else)

[Giant Panda]

Read Al's report (the non-April Fools part at the end).

The sooner the lagoon is drained, the sooner the new ride can be put in.