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  • Mr. Toad is a dirty sinner.

    Quick question... does anybody have any background info on the narrative for the Mr. Toad darkride? I always wondered why you go to Hell at the end of that ride, so I went out the other day and rented The Wind in the Willows, and now I'm even more confused: How come when I get on that ride my soul is damned and I'm tormented by pot-bellied demons for all eternity, but in the film Toad gets to soar around in an airplane piloted by a horse? Wha?!? Mah?!? Where's my horse plane ride?!? Anyhow... does anybody know the history of that ride, and why the Imagineers took that particular route? Thanks... :devil:

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    Thats a good question. I thought it was so when you rode Splash Mountain you had a warm ride to dry off on. . Ok realy does any one know?

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    • #3
      I have always thought the Uncle Walt used the fantasyland dark rides to teach young children his own strict brand of morality.

      Mr. Toad- drive to fast, end up in hell
      Pinnocchio- have too much fun, turn into a donkey
      Snow White- too ugly and mean- get pitched off a cliff
      Peter Pan- call people names, get eaten by crocodile

      Just MHO
      Last edited by dramaqueen; 04-06-2005, 03:16 PM.
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        • #5
          Originally posted by dramaqueen
          I have always thought the Uncle Walt used the fantasyland dark rides to teach young children his own strict brand of morality.

          Mr. Toad- drive to fast, end up in hell
          Pinnocchio- have too much fun, turn into a donkey
          Snow White- too ugly and mean- get pitched off a cliff
          Peter Pan- call people names, get eaten by crocodile

          Just MHO
          Agreed, DQ.

          Also, in the Wind and the Willows, if I remember correctly, did not Mr. Toad steal the car?

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          • #6
            Originally posted by dramaqueen
            I have always thought the Uncle Walt used the fantasyland dark rides to teach young children his own strict brand of morality.

            Mr. Toad- drive to fast, end up in hell
            Pinnocchio- have too much fun, turn into a donkey
            Snow White- too ugly and mean- get pitched off a cliff
            Peter Pan- call people names, get eaten by crocodile

            Just MHO

            Wow.. So i am a donkey.... eaten by a crock... falling down a cliff... going directly to hell... Wow... what a ending... :lol: :lol: :lol: :devil:

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            • #7
              What if you drive fast on the way to church? isn't there some sort of redemption??? Hmmm, I better slow down LOL :lol:
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              • #8
                Originally posted by dramaqueen
                I have always thought the Uncle Walt used the fantasyland dark rides to teach young children his own strict brand of morality.

                Mr. Toad- drive to fast, end up in hell
                Pinnocchio- have too much fun, turn into a donkey
                Snow White- too ugly and mean- get pitched off a cliff
                Peter Pan- call people names, get eaten by crocodile

                Just MHO
                LOL Funny!

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                PS: I guess I have to point out that Pinochio didn't arrive in Fantasyland until the 80's.
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                • #9
                  Originally posted by dramaqueen
                  I have always thought the Uncle Walt used the fantasyland dark rides to teach young children his own strict brand of morality.

                  Mr. Toad- drive to fast, end up in hell
                  Pinnocchio- have too much fun, turn into a donkey
                  Snow White- too ugly and mean- get pitched off a cliff
                  Peter Pan- call people names, get eaten by crocodile

                  Just MHO
                  hehe, never thought of it like that.
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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by dramaqueen
                    I have always thought the Uncle Walt used the fantasyland dark rides to teach young children his own strict brand of morality.

                    Mr. Toad- drive to fast, end up in hell
                    Pinnocchio- have too much fun, turn into a donkey
                    Snow White- too ugly and mean- get pitched off a cliff
                    Peter Pan- call people names, get eaten by crocodile

                    Just MHO

                    Uhhhh... No...

                    Mr. Toad's Automobile Chase is what it is... Sort of smashing bits and pieces of the story into a narrative of sorts... You have the Auto chase sequence, and the trial sequence... but I think the end is if you don't listen to the law you end up in hell...

                    Pinnocchio was not one of Walt's orginal dark rides if, I recall... It was added durring the Fantasyland Makeover...

                    Peter Pan always called Hook a codfish... You don't see him eaten by a croc... No, the hidden message is, if you spend your life trying to kill youth, time (tick tock) will end up catching up with you and you end up dead... And in this case desert... Yumm... Piratey goodness...

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Gwyren
                      Also, in the Wind and the Willows, if I remember correctly, did not Mr. Toad steal the car?
                      Actually, the weasels stole the car and then traded it with Mr. Toad for his mansion and the police found Mr. Toad in the car. So he was framed!
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                      • #12
                        Don't forget:

                        Alice in Wonderland: become too curious and fall asleep during your studies and you have to sing and dance w/ flowers and pretend it's your birthday...hmmm maybe that's not too bad






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                        • #13
                          What does sin have to do with Hell?

                          I thought the only unforgivable sins were suicide and doubt that Jesus was the one true savior.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by DustMeUpTink
                            Actually, the weasels stole the car and then traded it with Mr. Toad for his mansion and the police found Mr. Toad in the car. So he was framed!
                            <bows> I stand corrected.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by dshimel
                              What does sin have to do with Hell?

                              I thought the only unforgivable sins were suicide and doubt that Jesus was the one true savior.
                              ???????

                              It was meant as a joke..................
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                              • #16
                                Originally posted by dshimel
                                What does sin have to do with Hell?

                                I thought the only unforgivable sins were suicide and doubt that Jesus was the one true savior.
                                Ah, Christianity. Taking 4,000 years of rich moral tradition and suddenly making it not applicable to everyday life...

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                                • #17
                                  I believe I read in one of those Disneyland/WDW travel planning books that the story line is roughly that after stealing a car, you are killed when hit my a train, and thus go to hell.... which I guess would explain why the hell scene comes right after the train tunnel. In any case, I don't think that Toad is a ride that is meant to be analyzed to closely. The original Fantasyland darkrides were loosely inspired by similar operating dark rides that had already become a staple at amusement parks, which would explain why two fo them (Toad and Snow White) used some of the familiar dark ride gags as well as tending toward a slightly scary feeling.

                                  I will say that I always found it amusing that you can go to hell while in Disneyland. Mr. Toad is unique and after the romoval of Toad at WDW, is the last Mr.Toad's Wild ride in existence.

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                                  • #18
                                    You have the Auto chase sequence, and the trial sequence... but I think the end is if you don't listen to the law you end up in hell...
                                    On the ride, I always figured your suppose to be dead after your implied head-on with the train, then you're in hell. Never though about why, just figured you're suppose to be Toad, and when you die, that's where you end up for whatever reason.
                                    "I don't know why I did it, I don't know why I enjoyed it, and I don't know why I'll do it again..."- Bart Simpson

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                                    • #19
                                      I'm not sure if I remember correctly, bit in truth I've thought about this too.

                                      I think Toad goes to Court, and right after there's the train scene. Then I guess we can assume that Toad escaped from jail, took a car, and went head-on into a train and killed himself.

                                      So I guess if you do something bad and then push away any remote redemption, you're going to hell.




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                                      • #20
                                        I never tried to read any deep theological or moral meanings into Mr. Toad - I just enjoy the ride for the visual zaniness and craziness, the reckless careening around the corners. All in all, it's a very excellent dark ride compared to most that exist.
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