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  • (complaints about 'toon' themed rides) Enough is Enough!

    ok, im sick of it already!

    all of you guys who whine and complain about the cartoon themes drive me crazy!

    i go and look at a sub lagoon construction thread and the first response i see is " oh no! not another cartoon attraction!" and act as if you'd rather just let the lagoon or any other ride for that matter just sit there left to rot away!
    first off, shouldnt we all be happy that they are actually bringing the lagoon back to life? but i see you guys do this with every other cartooned theme attraction that opens. the reason they do these cartoon themes isnt because they think its going to be way cooler than some unique ride theme, but rather because they want to bring us the best ride possible. when disney does some cartoon theme, lets say pixar, they get sponsored by pixar to do the ride, which means bigger budget, better technology, better ride. so i really dont mind the nemo/sub overlay, heck, i might even like it.

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    Pixar doesn't sponser the ride. Part of the distribution agreement Disney has with Pixar allows Diney full rights to licensing of Pixar characters. So just to correct the argument, Disney gets no extra money to theme a ride towards Pixar, although this also means they don't pay anything for the use of the characters either.
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    • #3
      Well, I do agree with you, especially for a company built upon cartoons and animation, but we must respect those with different opnions.












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      • #4
        Originally posted by grantmaier687
        ok, im sick of it already!

        all of you guys who whine and complain about the cartoon themes drive me crazy!

        i go and look at a sub lagoon construction thread and the first response i see is " oh no! not another cartoon attraction!" and act as if you'd rather just let the lagoon or any other ride for that matter just sit there left to rot away!
        I'm not sure anyone wants to see the lagoon, Big Thunder Ranch or any other underutilized area of the park sit stagnant, but those of us who are older remember when there were new attractions that were wonderfully unique ideas. There's something to be said for the first time you ride a well-themed, unique attraction like Pirates or Mansion that was imagineered from an idea as opposed to just rehashing a film. Personally, I don't mind the "film" attractions as long as they are mixed in with something new and different. Sadly, Disney hasn't done that in a while. I know I miss the creativity that goes into a new experience.

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        • #5
          I agree with Not Afraid. We already know the story of the movie. Why do we need to make it into a ride??? Shoot, they can come up with new adventures for Aladdin and release it on DVD to make millions, why not try it on a ride??? It's like, no one has any sort of imagination anymore!!!!
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          • #6
            Disney used to make family rides that were fun for the whole family, not just the little kiddies. I don't mind a Buzz Lightyear or two, but when almost ALL of the new rides are cartoons, it is just too much.
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            • #7
              Originally posted by Dustysage
              Disney used to make family rides that were fun for the whole family, not just the little kiddies. I don't mind a Buzz Lightyear or two, but when almost ALL of the new rides are cartoons, it is just too much.
              I wouldn't say Buzz is designed only for kids. It's great for adults, too...such a fun ride!
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              • #8
                okay pixar's a bad example, but you get the idea

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                • #9
                  I think its all a matter of taste. The cartoon theme can enhance a good attraction, or make it really, really tacky. We the Disney elite love an original attraction that has nothing to do with a film. To the general public though, its confusing why some rides dont have anything to do with movies.(My friends always ask where the Tiki Room Birds are from.) Keep in mind these are the same people who think Shrek and Robots are Disney movies. (75% of those Ive talked to!!!) The best we can hope for in the future is that we get an original attraction that has cartoon "ambassadors" that fit the theme, but dont necessarly retell their story.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by grantmaier687
                    ok, im sick of it already!
                    After only 7 posts? Short fuse, eh?

                    Originally posted by grantmaier687
                    all of you guys who whine and complain about the cartoon themes drive me crazy!
                    If that's all it takes to drive you crazy, it must not be a long drive... :lol:

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                    • #11
                      No one is really THAT upset over the Finding Nemo overlay, we just don't see how it fits in TL. Atlantis would have been cooler/darker/better suited/etc. Imagine if they would ahve made Space Mountain Trasure Planet or something... I'm glad it's coming back, but they better not make Disneyland a giant Chuck E' Cheese (Where A Kid Can Be A Kid), Adults love Disneyland just as much as kids do, and guess who's paying all the moola... that's right. All in all I blame the kids!

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                      • #12
                        I too wish Disney would do more in the live action realm. The last couple items were Star Tours and Indiana Jones. Since the late 80's, we got Tarzan Treehouse , Pooh, Buzz, ALL of Toontown with the characters houses and Roger Rabbit's ride.

                        Yes, we have seen an over toonization of DL. We just need a little balance in the other direction. It wouldn't have to be movie related. HM and Pirates weren't. Not all fantasy is in the Toon Realm.
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                        • #13
                          I don't mean to beat a dead horse, but has anyone noticed how the most popular attractions at Disneyland have nothing to do with some movie? Space Mountain, Pirates, Matterhorn, HM, they weren't movies turned into rides. Some were good enough to have movies based on them. I love the cartoon rides too, (Peter Pan is one of my favorites) but it would be sweet if WDI could come up with a ride that's great totally on its own.

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                          • #14
                            The best example I can think of to back up your point is the Country Bears vs the Pooh ride.

                            I agree with the very bad need to come up with some original rides, BUT...

                            Every single kid I know LOVES Nemo. My son is only 2, and has never really watched the movie, but he see's a picture or stuffed animal version and NEMO NEMO NEMO! The real key is finding the magic for young and old. Painted cardboard won't do that (or either will plastic :-)

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by pyrateslife4me84
                              I wouldn't say Buzz is designed only for kids. It's great for adults, too...such a fun ride!
                              I actually agree 100%. Buzz is a really great new attraction, and kids can enjoy it JUST as much as the adults. My three year old sister got 4000 points on it! XD And my mom said she really seemed to enjoy it. It's very interactive. Although I wish it was more than cardboard cutouts myself. If they spent just a little more to make that ride beautiful from every angle like Pirates, it would be perfect.
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                              • #16
                                Originally posted by zach1
                                I don't mean to beat a dead horse, but has anyone noticed how the most popular attractions at Disneyland have nothing to do with some movie? Space Mountain, Pirates, Matterhorn, HM, they weren't movies turned into rides. Some were good enough to have movies based on them. I love the cartoon rides too, (Peter Pan is one of my favorites) but it would be sweet if WDI could come up with a ride that's great totally on its own.
                                The Matterhorn was from a Disney movie called "Third Man on the Mountain".
                                Then there's Treasure Island, which PotC is loosely based on.
                                Swiss Family Robinson Treehouse..well you know what movie that came from.

                                (forgot to mention that HM was turned into an entirely unwatchable film. )

                                My point is, Disney Has had a tradition of translating movies into attractions. I, like many others here, would like to see something that is More than cartoon. The question was recently posed "why no rides with audio-animatronics?" It would be Very nice to see something of the caliber of HM or PotC come to Disneyland. I don't look for it soon, though.


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                                • #17
                                  Originally posted by Disneykat
                                  I agree with Not Afraid. We already know the story of the movie. Why do we need to make it into a ride??? Shoot, they can come up with new adventures for Aladdin and release it on DVD to make millions, why not try it on a ride??? It's like, no one has any sort of imagination anymore!!!!

                                  Beause adding to the original story like that in any way trivializes the original!!!!!!!!!
                                  Just because they make sequels and make money off of parents who done care what their children watch doesn't make it right. Since when does imagination require copying the work of other artists causing them to spin in their graves?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!? The original intention of rides that retell a Disney story are supposed to put you into the world of a movie you love. Why deo you thinik Snow White is barely in the ride at all?!

                                  I like the idea of doing Nemo a little differently in terms of the story by doing it in the lagoon and I agree we should be thanking our lucky stars.

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                                  • #18
                                    I agree wholeheartedly.

                                    I go to Disneyland because I love DISNEY. I like to see the characters, and I REALLY like to scoot around on a Caterpillar/Pirate ship/Taxi, hell, even a beehive and remember why I like Disney so much.

                                    If I wanted rides that had nothing to do with movies... I'd go to California Adventure!!

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                                    • #19
                                      Originally posted by Michelle
                                      I agree wholeheartedly.

                                      I go to Disneyland because I love DISNEY. I like to see the characters, and I REALLY like to scoot around on a Caterpillar/Pirate ship/Taxi, hell, even a beehive and remember why I like Disney so much.

                                      If I wanted rides that had nothing to do with movies... I'd go to California Adventure!!
                                      Ew, no, if you wanted to go on GOOD rides that had nothing to do with movies, just go to freakin' Knott's Berry Farm up the 5 freeway ten miles and save yourself some dough!!
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                                      • #20
                                        Originally posted by melmel
                                        Ew, no, if you wanted to go on GOOD rides that had nothing to do with movies, just go to freakin' Knott's Berry Farm up the 5 freeway ten miles and save yourself some dough!!
                                        Nah.

                                        I told my mom the other day, "Going to Knott's Berry Farm is like going grocery shopping at a convenience store when there's a full sized supermarket right next door."

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