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  • News Item: Protestors at Disneyland Sat. June 24th to protest Pirates premiere

    Wow! Check out this link:

    http://www.cinematical.com/2006/06/2...me-protestors/

    Quote: "The Garifuna American Heritage Foundation United of Long Beach, California is staging a protest at Disneyland on Saturday afternoon in response to their own problems with their ancestors being depicted as cannibals. The non-profit organization is devoted to the preservation of the Garifuna culture and history, so their interest in the matter is obvious. I wonder, though, if anywhere in the film is it said the cannibals are on Dominica."

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    Re: News Item: Protestors at Disneyland Sat. June 24th to protest Pirates premiere

    Originally posted by Frogberto
    Wow! Check out this link:

    http://www.cinematical.com/2006/06/2...me-protestors/

    Quote: "The Garifuna American Heritage Foundation United of Long Beach, California is staging a protest at Disneyland on Saturday afternoon in response to their own problems with their ancestors being depicted as cannibals. The non-profit organization is devoted to the preservation of the Garifuna culture and history, so their interest in the matter is obvious. I wonder, though, if anywhere in the film is it said the cannibals are on Dominica."
    Everyone has their opinion and that's what makes America great.
    the article also says:

    "In fact, the blockbuster sequel already faced some protests last year while shooting on the island of Dominica. The Carib tribe that is indigenous to the island had a big problem with being portrayed as cannibals, particularly in a scene that has Johnny Depp strapped to a skewer. The tribe's chief Charles Williams was especially outraged that many of his people sold out their heritage for $95 per day as extras. "

    If the native people saw nothing wrong w/ it, then why are people here in American having a problem?
    And I doubt they can pick-it on the property...so where can they go.
    Disney missed out on a strike this year because there was no place to do it.
    I guess you can go across the street and do it..but then that affect hotels and I'm sure the hotels arent' going to put up with it.
    Interesting.
    Quote by Al:
    To that end I'd like the Internet community to join me in reminding the Disney company that "it all started with Walt." As you can see below we've created some T-shirts, plus a few simple graphics that you can copy and paste into your websites to let folks know how you feel.
    -Al Lutz


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    • #3
      Re: News Item: Protestors at Disneyland Sat. June 24th to protest Pirates premiere

      I wonder where they're planning on doing this protest. I don't think they'll be able to go on private property.
      <o>

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      • #4
        Re: News Item: Protestors at Disneyland Sat. June 24th to protest Pirates premiere

        this is why i hate people.....the stu0pid people that get their panties in a knot make life unfun for the rest of us...

        IT'S A FRICKEN DISNEY MOVIE PEOPLE.....they need to get a life

        helmet but not the hat right!

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        • #5
          Re: News Item: Protestors at Disneyland Sat. June 24th to protest Pirates premiere

          The tribe's chief Charles Williams was especially outraged that many of his people sold out their heritage for $95 per day as extras.
          Um...the chief's name is CHARLES WILLIAMS and he is complaing of selling out their heritage?

          CRUICKSHANK: Most people don't go looking for cannibals, but you did. How did your search start?

          KRIEGER: I didn't really set out to look for them. I'd read a magazine article that questioned the existence of ritual cannibalism, because there were no firsthand accounts. Then when I was out in the South Pacific someone said, "These old fellows used to practice cannibalism," and of course my ears perked up.

          What is ritual cannibalism?

          In ritual cannibalism some tribes believe that they take on traits they admired in deceased relatives by eating parts of them. In superiority cannibalism, a type of ritual cannibalism, you dominate your enemy by eating them after you have killed them. It is the ultimate domination. Also, all the people in the South Pacific Islands had very low fat diets, because there are few mammals in the islands, so I think that was a major impetus.

          Human meat was partly a dietary supplement?

          They didn't kill and eat that many people generally. Maybe once every three months. But I think they all had a lust for it because of their low-fat diets. One tribe considered the women's breasts the best part and another tribe considered men's and women's buttocks the best -- both the fattiest parts of the human.

          The women would traditionally do the preparation but they wouldn't partake?

          Generally not. The men had the power in the tribe and human meat was considered a delicacy. The warriors ate it. Children and women didn't.

          Did they describe what it tasted like?

          Some said it really didn't taste like any other meat, and others said that it tasted somewhat like chicken or beef, but not exactly.

          How recently was cannibalism practiced in the South Pacific?

          The last instance that I got anybody to talk about was around 1950.

          When you interviewed these retired cannibals, did they think your questions were peculiar?

          I don't know. They really enjoyed reflecting on it, and in one case, in the Solomon Islands, the whole village gathered around and it was like story time -- they were laughing and really enjoying it. In the other cases, in Vanuatu, the women were not permitted to hear the stories. It was an all male audience.

          Is there anything in our society that would be as taboo to the South Pacific cultures as cannibalism is to us?

          Sure, the Melanesians had many, many taboos. For instance, a woman having sexual relations with somebody not her husband would be put to death. Probably the taboos that they considered the worst were, in their minds, far, far worse than how we consider cannibalism.
          So maybe not on that particular Island...but it was happening in apparently SEVERAL spots throughout the world. If the film doesn't specifically name the tribe, the tribe...and their CHIEF need to get a life.

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          • #6
            Re: News Item: Protestors at Disneyland Sat. June 24th to protest Pirates premiere

            Meh.

            I'm not going to go against these people's feelings - I can understand that the view it as a wrongful portrayal of their culture, even if they're stretching it a bit.

            Nevertheless, I wish them luck finding a place to protest around the Disneyland Resort where they'll actually be seen and/or heard!

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            • #7
              Re: News Item: Protestors at Disneyland Sat. June 24th to protest Pirates premiere

              Originally posted by MasterGracey
              Meh.

              I'm not going to go against these people's feelings - I can understand that the view it as a wrongful portrayal of their culture, even if they're stretching it a bit.

              Nevertheless, I wish them luck finding a place to protest around the Disneyland Resort where they'll actually be seen and/or heard!

              Wow, this is two times I agree w/ Gracey.

              I'm not sure for the protest (since I don't have background)
              But they do have the right.

              My question though is...if the native's were fine w/ it (they were in the movie and took money)...then why is the chief upset, is it other American's joining him...or did he find other's from that island who are not happy?
              And does the movie actually say the island or is it the fact it was filmed there?
              Quote by Al:
              To that end I'd like the Internet community to join me in reminding the Disney company that "it all started with Walt." As you can see below we've created some T-shirts, plus a few simple graphics that you can copy and paste into your websites to let folks know how you feel.
              -Al Lutz


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              • #8
                Re: News Item: Protestors at Disneyland Sat. June 24th to protest Pirates premiere

                PSST! Tree huggers. They never protested the ride and that was about pirates. People arnt happy unless they are protesting somthing. In school we had to learn about these british africans that demanded an appology for the brittish being part of the slave trades. IT WAS 200 Years ago and people have forgetten about it and they want one now? Anyway this is stupid and protesting isnt going to do anything and never will unless it is baseball, then protesting works but only in the game and if your a manager. Plus everybody knows that people in the Dominica arnt cannibals. They have really really good baseball players. Or is that the dominican republic? Anyway its good to see people fighting for what they beleive but it IS a disney movie.

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                • #9
                  Re: News Item: Protestors at Disneyland Sat. June 24th to protest Pirates premiere

                  When groups of people try to attract attention to themselves as victims of one sort or another, a request or demand for MONEY usually follows.
                  "Yesterday, a man walked up to me and said, 'Isn't it a shame that Walt Disney couldn't be here to see this?' and I said, "He did see this, that's why it's here."
                  -Art Linkletter July 17, 2005-


                  When you wish upon a star your dreams come true.

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                  • #10
                    Re: News Item: Protestors at Disneyland Sat. June 24th to protest Pirates premiere

                    "The Garifuna American Heritage Foundation United of Long Beach, California is staging a protest at Disneyland on Saturday afternoon..."

                    Just curious. How many Garifuna-Americans do you think live in Long Beach? Four? Five? Maybe six? I've never even heard of these people.

                    And why aren't they protesting the Garifunans who acted like cannibals for 95 bucks a day as extras for the movie team? Will the Garifuna American Heritage Foundation United in Long Beach be traveling to the Dominican Republic to protest their ancestors?

                    Something tells me they won't make that trip. But there will be four of 'em standing around on the sidewalk by the International House of Pancakes on Harbor Blvd. trying to get someone to care.

                    Hilarious!

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                    • #11
                      Re: News Item: Protestors at Disneyland Sat. June 24th to protest Pirates premiere

                      This sort of reminds me of the Chinese people who protested Pearl Harbor.

                      I love this comment from the link in the OP.
                      1. History doesn't show cannibals in the Caribbean, true.

                      It also doesn't show zombie pirates.


                      Go figure. A fictional Hollywood movie... making things up.

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                        Last edited by figment1986; 06-24-2006, 10:19 AM. Reason: Fixed spelling, made more confusing

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                        • #13
                          Re: News Item: Protestors at Disneyland Sat. June 24th to protest Pirates premiere

                          I'll be right there with them roasting monkey on a stick of course!
                          5.6 miles away from the entrance of POTC!

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                          • #14
                            Re: News Item: Protestors at Disneyland Sat. June 24th to protest Pirates premiere

                            Ah that's just great. Disney decides to completely change around an untouchable ride, possibly destroying its character and feel for the sake of cross-promotion, and what do they decide to protest...cannibalism!

                            I do like the modern updates of projections, LED lighting and new animatronics, but they could've left the movie out of it while still retaining a new storyline and technology. I'll wait of course to reserve final judgement, but these people are preaching to the choir with this one. If they really want to get through, they'll protest Johnny Depp and not cannibalism.

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                            • #15
                              Re: News Item: Protestors at Disneyland Sat. June 24th to protest Pirates premiere

                              Well, they're there protesting their people being portrayed as cannibals because there is a tribe of cannibals in the movie that is premeiring there today, not necessarily the ride.
                              Go make a life, not a living.

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