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    I received the following email from a good friend last week who is a former longtime DLCM. I edited a few of the comments since I know there are some very sensitive people in here when it comes to criticism.
    "America is the only country that went from barbarism to decadence without civilization in between." Oscar Wilde

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    You can't go home again.
    Please visit my Big Thunder/Disney Inspired Model Railroad


    Dream big. Do what you love.

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    • #3
      Nothing ever stays the same!
      Mom, remember, it's not what a person is like on the outside that counts,
      it's what they are like in their HEART!


      - Wolfette

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      • #4
        Obese is the new skinny.
        >>Alan<<
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        • #5
          I think they have a hard time finding people who care. hey have to hire so many cast members to keep the place going that Disney cant be as picky anymore. It used to be that out of every 100 people that aplied only about 5 would get hired. Now out of every 100 they hire 50 to 75 depending on the season. Now once hired they do nothing to keep you intrsted in keeping the magic alive. Managment looks at it as a buisness and so it portrade that way. The magic and buisness dont mix well. So they need to find a way to bring the magic back to the cast and that will be the magic in the park, always has always will be one of the biggest things Disney has over other places out there.
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          • #6
            Originally posted by KoH
            Obese is the new skinny.
            Made me think of Diana Ross's often quoted statement about how one can never be too thin.

            Perhaps she's setting a whole new standard now that she's packed on quite a few extra pounds over the years!
            "America is the only country that went from barbarism to decadence without civilization in between." Oscar Wilde

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            • #7
              There are plenty of current CM's who work to keep the magic of Walt Disney's dream alive. I feel that your friend, as a former cast member, should realize that it takes more than obesity to ruin the magic. The majority of the CM's work so hard to keep Walt's dream alive, it is unfortunate that your friend had such a negative attitude.

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              • #8


                What does not being obese have to do with being a dynamic talented employee?

                Where the heck is that written?
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                • #9
                  No one wants to go back, just forward, taking the best from the past AND the best from the present. That letter should go straight to the former employers. The overweight problem and the bad crowd flow would probably go away with the churro carts. An easy fix I say! (Not that I hate the smell of churros or anything)

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by cellarhound
                    What does not being obese have to do with being a dynamic talented employee? Where the heck is that written?
                    Sorry, but in all honesty, no one wants to see a gigantic person that weighs 400 lbs getting you ready for your trip to Endor.

                    It's just the way humans are... if you're gigantic and fat, we really don't want to be looking at you. Unless you're EXTREMELY TALENTED or FUNNY. That's the one exception. We get beyond a person's size if they're really talented or funny.

                    I don't know many fat CMs at Disney who are that fat anyway... if you're a manager at Epcot in WDW, you need to weigh less than 240 lb I believe... just becuase you really slow things down if you can't ride a segway.

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                    • #11
                      I feel your "friend" who was a CM has a very close-minded attitude and I'm personally glad he's NOT a CM any longer.

                      There are many CM's who truly love and care about what they do, no matter how much they weigh or if they are attractive enough for you or your friend to enjoy looking at.

                      Although yes I will agree that there is a difference between lazy/fat and just larger size person in general.
                      -Wes

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Bill
                        It's just the way humans are... if you're gigantic and fat, we really don't want to be looking at you. Unless you're EXTREMELY TALENTED or FUNNY. That's the one exception. We get beyond a person's size if they're really talented or funny.
                        You do realize that the being talented or funny is the only way an Obese person can cope with the abject humiliation of dealing with a culture that caters toward the undernourished, underdeveloped, and socially inept?

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                        • #13
                          obese people's physical appearances do not bother me. what bugs me is that they are creating very dangerous health states for themselves. i realize some people have conditions, but whats wrong with some good old fasioned excercise?

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                          • #14
                            All I can say is if your friend thinks DL has a problem with unattractive, obese CMs he/she shouldn't visit WDW where I wouldn't doubt the average CM weight is in the mid-200s. And as far as quality CMs go, I am always amazed at how much better they are at DL than WDW. Most still find it special to work at 'Walt's park' ... it's not that way at WDW. It was in the 70s and 80s, but not today. It's too big and management truly doesn't place any value on CMs.

                            As for all the carts and clutter, again I must say that compared to WDW, DL has NOTHING to complain about ... well, maybe except for that enormous, WDW CM-sized frozen lemonade stand at the end of Main Street near the Plaza Inn.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Captain Zissou
                              obese people's physical appearances do not bother me. what bugs me is that they are creating very dangerous health states for themselves. i realize some people have conditions, but whats wrong with some good old fasioned excercise?
                              Uhm ... doncha know most Americans are on a diet ... it's called Fat For Life :lol: Boy, do I crack myself up at 3 a.m.

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                              • #16
                                Originally posted by cellarhound
                                You do realize that the being talented or funny is the only way an Obese person can cope with the abject humiliation of dealing with a culture that caters toward the undernourished, underdeveloped, and socially inept?

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                                Alice: "Well, three inches is such a retched height...!"

                                Caterpillar: "I am exaticicicialy three inches high, and I think it is a very good height to be indeed!"
                                Perhaps because it's very unhealthy to be over-weight. When we look at people, naturally we can tell if a person is healthy or not just by looking at them for the most part. It's the way a human is... all part of human psych.

                                Now, you call us undernourished, underdeveloped, and socially inept?

                                Yet they're the ones with the health risks... they're the ones who're over-developed... and people that have a normal weight are socially inept? Give me a break. I don't think that has anything to do if you're fat or thin... that's the personality of the person.

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                                • #17
                                  Originally posted by Bill
                                  if you're gigantic and fat, we really don't want to be looking at you. Unless you're EXTREMELY TALENTED or FUNNY. That's the one exception.
                                  I'm sorry Bill but I believe that would make 2 exceptions, according to you.

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                                  • #18
                                    Well, for me talent = humor... if you're talented, you're funny. If you're funny, you're talented. I consider that one thing, not two.

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                                    • #19
                                      Originally posted by Bill
                                      Well, for me talent = humor... if you're talented, you're funny. If you're funny, you're talented. I consider that one thing, not two.
                                      Then you shouldn't have said "or" Bill

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                                      • #20
                                        although I agree on the health issue, I think the notion that you don't want to see fat CM's ridiculous.

                                        What I want from a CM, is the magic and charm of Disney. I have respect for the rose colored glasses that Desertdweller's friend was wearing in the "golden age" of 1996,
                                        However, I remember that as a time I started to see a deterioration of CM training, and it led to more and more problems in DL. I still see nearly all the CM's I come in contact with, doing an excellent job, and fully aware of where they are, and who they represent. It matters not one bit to me the persons size.
                                        Goin around the world...and back to Disneyland!

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