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  • I experienced one of the first Dreams! [Year Of A Million Dreams - Soft Opening]

    So as Wolfy, Wolfette, CaptPhoebus and I were walking away from Paradise Pier earlier today, I stopped a CM to trade pins. We talked for a bit and I pulled out all my trader pins to show him what I had. He noticed my 'Fantasmic!' pin and asked if we were planning on seeing the show later tonight. I said I might because I was planning on staying until closing. He then told us that he was part of the Dream Squad and as part of the Year Of A Million Dreams they're planning on having a Priority Standing Area set aside for about 100 people they were testing and asked if we'd be interested in going. I said yes and he then went over to a phone and called in to have my name added to the list.

    A look from the back at the Dream Squad costume:



    (White Shirt, Blue pants, Pin Lanyard)

    When the time came for the show, Sam, CaptPhoebus and I were joined by MissChristine, Grumpy4 and ScarLion as we embarked on this pseudo-soft opening adventure. Let me start of by saying the area they chose to do this at is a total dissapointment with many issues. It is right in front of Haunted Mansion, across from Fantasmic's stage right, to the left of the Floor Priority Seating area.

    Before the show started, a Dream Squad manager came up to us and asked how we liked the view. We told him our honest opinion, that for the purpose they're looking to serve, it's one of the worst choices they could have made. We wanted to go more into detail, but at that point the show was starting. When the show ended, it seemed like the Dream Squad had mobilized, but I managed to spot them walked into the back of New Orleans Square. We got a chance to talk to a different manager who was quite eager to hear our opinions. I'm actually really glad that she was so receptive. It proves that TDA is actually listening. I also gave her a Micechat card and told her that she should come and read if she wanted more in depth comments. Hopefully this is being read by her or others in TDA.

    Before I go into comments. Let's take a look at what we experienced.

    Here's a look at the area during the day:



    Overlook from the Priority Standing Area:



    Here are some shots of the area and the view during showtime:













    Wondering what the show looked like? Wonder no more. (Listen closely and you can hear our comments during the show)

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4aZINn0qD50 - Part 1

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IMxq8UYmwwk - Part 2

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gdwazzxuzu0 - Part 3

    So, what's the verdict? This isn't a very good start for the much talked about promotion. For AP'ers who've seen the show dozens of times and actually oogle at the thought of "The Backside of Fantasmic", it's cool because that's pretty much what you get to see. However for people who only get to come once every few years and are experiencing the show for the first time; seeing flower petals running off-stage, a paper thin Pinnochio with very apparent puppetteers, and a dragon with a broomstick for a body and stagehands vigorously working to make the wings flap (We joked around that they're probably chanting "I hate my job, I hate my job" while doing so [RHPS reference]), the magic is is gone. This is not the kind of memory you want to give people. There is also the issue with parents arriving late with their children. The area still neccessitates different rows to accomodate all guests, so if someone arrives late, they still end up having to place their child on their shoulders, thus creating the same viewing issues that priority areas were created to avoid. They also only had CM's guarding one side of the area, so guests were actually able to sneak in through the back, which a few did. To make matters worse, this particular area is downwind from the smoking area. I don't think secondhand smoke plays a part in most peoples dreams.

    The question then arises; what area could they use? A few areas come to mind:

    - The area where the Bootstrappers play, right in front of Cafe Orleans.
    - To the sides of the towers, which is actually used to currently accomodate guests who did the VIP Tour that day.
    - Rope off the front of the bridge, creating only a single row along which Dream winners can stand comfortably without anybody being stuck behind a taller person or someone with children.

    Any more ideas are welcome. It's about a week until The Year Of A Million Dreams kicks off and the Dream Squad still has a lot of work ahead of them. We were told this was the first night they tested out the Priority Area for Fantasmic and will be testing more stuff out as the week goes by. I can only hope our ideas help shape what could turn out to be a very memorable experience and promotion for guests and CM's alike.

    P.S.= And personally, I think I'd actually like a pair of Dream Ears or a Dream Lanyard more than a spot in the Priority Area for a show.
    Last edited by Sadako; 09-25-2006, 10:21 AM.
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    Re: I experienced one of the first Dreams! [Year Of A Million Dreams - Soft Opening]

    What luck that they picked one of the premier Mice Chatters to try out priority seating! I am glad you were able to give them honest feedback and I really hope they take it to heart as I would agree with you based on your photos of this "premier" viewing spot.

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      Re: I experienced one of the first Dreams! [Year Of A Million Dreams - Soft Opening]

      Maybe that was the micechat dreams view.... lol

      Good comments, makes sence...

      This was a test maybe they will test other areas as time goes on for the debute october 1....

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        Re: I experienced one of the first Dreams! [Year Of A Million Dreams - Soft Opening]

        Wow, for winning a prize, they really could have picked a better spot to view the show from. That's way off to the side. As a prize winner, you'd expect to be seated dead front and center. That's a logical thought that I'm sure will go through anyones head if they win that. I'm glad that the managers were so willing to listen and get feedback. That's a good sign. I hope they read here as well.

        As for where they can put winners... to be effective they need to be right in front of one of the French Screens, or have a really good view of them. That limits placement right there. In order to feel like they've won something, they should be front and center. That will make them feel like they are surrounded by all the other people watching the show... like it's being put on for them and all these other people just showed up to see it. Rope off an area dead center right up front and put some chairs (cushioned) in there. Small aisleway out the back so they can walk in and out. Let people stand on sides and behind them.

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          Re: I experienced one of the first Dreams! [Year Of A Million Dreams - Soft Opening]

          As an avid Fantasmic watcher that's a horrible viewing spot! But hey you got to experience the dreams thing so that's cool.

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            Re: I experienced one of the first Dreams! [Year Of A Million Dreams - Soft Opening]

            Rope off the front of the bridge, creating only a single row along which Dream winners can stand comfortably without anybody being stuck behind a taller person or someone with children.
            imho i think this is the best of the ideas Sadako posted. i would love to be able to stand there, a nice clear, semi-elevated view with no worries about whom is in front of you.

            unlike a lot of other people i'm really looking forward to this when we come down in a couple of weeks. its going to be fun hoping to get something..heck i'm gonna be happy with anything i'm easy...just dont' tell my husband
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              Re: I experienced one of the first Dreams! [Year Of A Million Dreams - Soft Opening]

              I thought it was a great Idea and we told the Manager that last night but as Sadako said the view for the first timers is BAD! we were just laughing at some of the stuff you could see from that side. I think the managers name was sharon or something and we told her that this viewing area was not the best for first time people seeing the show it ruins the magic from that angle. I think she understood and she assured us that this was still the testing period so it could change. I hope that is does for the first time viewers sake.
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                Re: I experienced one of the first Dreams! [Year Of A Million Dreams - Soft Opening]

                This experience is a great illustration of the hidden value of the Disney trading experience. By trading pins with cast members, you meet a lot of great people, and sometimes, they do extra special things for the people they trade with. Pin trading is how we met the cast members who: made my daughter princess of the day; decided which family opens the park each day; gave away free "no strings attached" goodies; knew when, where and how we could meet Johnny Depp; and, of course, who knew what pins were coming out and when. Pin trading is almost like having a backstage pass to Disney.
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                  Re: I experienced one of the first Dreams! [Year Of A Million Dreams - Soft Opening]

                  Julie, that video made my day., I loved seeing it again,

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                  • #10
                    Re: I experienced one of the first Dreams! [Year Of A Million Dreams - Soft Opening]

                    Great job Sadako! Also you had a good find too in PP.

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                    • #11
                      Re: I experienced one of the first Dreams! [Year Of A Million Dreams - Soft Opening]

                      Is this the area right in front of the Churro cart? They've used that for VIPs before, and it's not the best.

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                        Re: I experienced one of the first Dreams! [Year Of A Million Dreams - Soft Opening]

                        I love the idea of the bridge, too! That would be excellent because it already seems like a more special place to watch from, plus the winners could show up at the last minute instead of camping out and then they'd be able to run like heck through Adventureland to avoid being crushed on the way out or getting caught in the herd. That headstart alone has got to be worth something!
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                          Re: I experienced one of the first Dreams! [Year Of A Million Dreams - Soft Opening]

                          I like the bridge idea as well, another way the dream winners can avoid the after Fantasmic crowd is to take a quick cruise on POTC!

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                            Re: I experienced one of the first Dreams! [Year Of A Million Dreams - Soft Opening]

                            I'll have to check out the Stage Right view. Usually I sit at the Stage Left side.

                            That's really great that you could try out their new promotion and give them your honest opinion.
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                              That spot is normally used for Wheelchair and Handicapped seating area - but the railing is rather high if you are in a wheelchair...

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                                Re: I experienced one of the first Dreams! [Year Of A Million Dreams - Soft Opening]

                                On busy nights where are they going to put the folks in wheelchairs? That Fantasmic! wheelchair viewing area is often full of people with special needs. A slow Sunday night in September is radically different than Columbus Day weekend or Christmas or any Saturday night in summer. What are they going to do then?

                                Will the people who get this "Dream" simply stand behind two dozen people in wheelchairs? Is that what they call special treatment worthy of a dream?

                                This Dreams promotion seems very poorly thought out, and very poorly planned and funded. It feels like they are simply pulling stuff out of thin air that is cheap or free because it starts in a week and they have to do something.
                                Last edited by TP2000; 09-25-2006, 12:34 PM.

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                                  Re: I experienced one of the first Dreams! [Year Of A Million Dreams - Soft Opening]

                                  I noticed that new uniform around yesterday, and wondered what was up. I thought it was a security uniform sans hat, but then at the end of the day walking down Main Street, we wound up speaking with two gals in that uniform who remembered my wife from the Daddios happy birthday incident earlier in the day. (See the Delta Daddios thread for details.) At the time, I was exhausted after seven hours in the park, or it would have hit me: who are these CM's in these white-shirted uniforms who were in NOS in the afternoon but on Main Street at park closing?

                                  That answers that. I can say that in at least this instance, they're bringing in good people to do that gig. These two ladies were very personable and good examples of the CM tradition.
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                                    Re: I experienced one of the first Dreams! [Year Of A Million Dreams - Soft Opening]

                                    Originally posted by TP2000 View Post
                                    A slow Sunday night in September is radically different than Columbus Day weekend or Christmas or any Saturday night in summer. What are they going to do then?
                                    Who said it had to be done every night?

                                    This Dreams promotion seems very poorly thought out, and very poorly planned and funded. It feels like they are simply pulling stuff out of thin air that is cheap or free because it starts in a week and they have to do something.
                                    Oh stop it already. Now you slam disney for trying things? In case you haven't noticed the real prizes are already documented and known, try reading them before you go slamming. This is just examples where disney can (and obviously is) looking where they can add more 'suprises' for people where they want.

                                    Next you'll start slamming adding parade marshalls is a cop out because because they'll probably mention the promotion when they pick people.
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                                      This is a good idea, but again, it's not the best place to see the show. I'm glad I stayed to see the show and to get my own perspective on it. And I'm also glad that the "Dream Squad" was so receptive as we gave our input.
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                                        Re: I experienced one of the first Dreams! [Year Of A Million Dreams - Soft Opening]

                                        Originally posted by flynnibus View Post
                                        This is just examples where disney can (and obviously is) looking where they can add more 'suprises' for people where they want.
                                        Why not make someone's day by offering what might be considered a special perk? We, as Disney geeks, might not be so impressed but to the average Joe Tourist, it could be pretty cool. Okay, this I agree with.

                                        The tone of your post however, not so much.
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