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  • FormerDiz
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    The seating was pretty slick. 20 people on each end of the boat, down the stairs, all the way to the end.

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  • pyrateslife4me84
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    They will likely shorten the ride a little bit, I think a 10-minute ride would be fine, and if they could further speed up loading by perhaps extending the loading platform so they can load more subs at once, they could easily increase capacity substantially. They could likely find ways to add seats onboard, too. I don't remember how the seating was set up, but they could have multiple rows if they set up some sort of stadium seating...or were they already packed full of people? It's been too many years...

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  • FormerDiz
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    It would be safe for sure. Those subs can move pretty well along the track when needed. As long as the water level is kept at the proper depth the guide wheel will keep things in place. If the water is too high, then there is a danger of the wheel coming up over the guide. It rarely happens. Water levels were checked daily.

    As for the show, it just depends on how they lay the show elements out next to the track.

    The person driving the boat used to have to pay attention to stay even with the spiel but like I said, with technology what it is, the sound system can be upgraded to send wireless signals to trigger the proper sound bite in the sub at the proper time.

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  • ModHatter
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    Originally posted by pyrateslife4me84
    This isn't really worth arguing further, since it's clearly an issue of us having disparate opinions. I just hope it turns out well, and I do feel I have reason to believe it will.
    Just as others have ample reason to believe it won't.

    That's all I'm trying to say here. If people want to reserve judgment, fine, but when you say things like, "we are in no position to judge whether or not this will be a good ride," that's just as much a non-fact as the post you were responding to.

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  • ModHatter
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    If they made the ride a faster-moving attraction, would it be safe? And would it actually present much of a show?

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  • FormerDiz
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    I was thinking about the capacity issue on Subs. One of the complaints about Subs (among MANY) is that the capacity is low. Having driven one of those beasts many times I can agree with that. 1300 guests per hour was not uncommon on busy Summer days. However, that was the old show and a new one is coming.

    We had to drive those boats very delibrately to match the recorded spiel. As a Sub Captain, you knew where your boat should be at the exact time to match what you were passing (which was hard at first in a dark featureless cavern).

    At show speed you could make your way around the lagoon in about 12 minutes (this is from memory).

    At deadhead speed (full speed with no guests), you could make it around the lagoon in 7.

    If they update this new show and sound to be much quicker moving, I'm guessing they can bring capacity up from 1300 per hour to approximately 1900-2000.

    On our best days at Space Mountain we were only getting 1800 per hour.

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  • pyrateslife4me84
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    Originally posted by ModHatter
    So, let me ask... are you likely to change your opinion of Space Mountain when it reopens? For me, one of the reasons I don't like it as much is because, at my height, squeezing my legs into a pretzel to get my knees under the safety bar really isn't fun, so unless they dramatically chaged the ride vehicles (which, from all reliable sources, hasn't happend), my enjoyment of Space Mountain won't improve much, and that's as practical as it gets.

    Being a Disney fan, I consider myself a natural optimist. However, optimism is like a seed, needing nourishment to grow and thrive. Not only have the various sources not given out anything to nourish my enthusiasm, but Nemo has actually been a little black raincloud. Picture, if you will, the scene in Batman where the Joker comes along and splashes dayglo colors over the Old Masters, in an effort to "improve" the paintings. That is sort of how Nemo feels to me.

    Prejudging is one way to spin it. Reason is another. And I can think of many wonderful things that were achieved with reason. One man's reason is another's folly. Heck, England still has a monarchy despite what America thinks is a pretty great system free of the monarchy. But, if you judge one man's reason as prejudging, well...

    Meanwhile, I would say that the Nemo overlay is far from the Splash Imagineering process. I would consider it to be more like the Tarzan overlay, the Gummi Glen overlay, WDW's Stitch overlay, its Tiki Room UNM overlay. And even a bit like our HMH overlay, but done year-round, with the original classic never to shine in its own right again. And with what I consider far less original or interesting characters and situations. Unlike SotS, Nemo hasn't been drawing audiences to theaters for over 50 years. Nemo isn't getting an attraction built from the ground up in which to house its ride. And, on top of that, while SotS was a Disney film, Nemo is just a Disney presentation of a Pixar film.

    My being optimistic about something that absolutely doesn't interest me and in fact insults me quite a bit... that doesn't seem particularly practical. But that's just my opinion.
    This isn't really worth arguing further, since it's clearly an issue of us having disparate opinions. I just hope it turns out well, and I do feel I have reason to believe it will.

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  • EpTxGuy
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    I'm just glad to see that they're finally putting some real money back into Disneyland. All it needs is some TLC, and a new ride every once in a while.

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  • snowflake
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    Gee, I'm just happy they're not paving the lagoon over for a character meeting area.

    Snow

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  • ModHatter
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    So, let me ask... are you likely to change your opinion of Space Mountain when it reopens? For me, one of the reasons I don't like it as much is because, at my height, squeezing my legs into a pretzel to get my knees under the safety bar really isn't fun, so unless they dramatically chaged the ride vehicles (which, from all reliable sources, hasn't happend), my enjoyment of Space Mountain won't improve much, and that's as practical as it gets.

    Being a Disney fan, I consider myself a natural optimist. However, optimism is like a seed, needing nourishment to grow and thrive. Not only have the various sources not given out anything to nourish my enthusiasm, but Nemo has actually been a little black raincloud. Picture, if you will, the scene in Batman where the Joker comes along and splashes dayglo colors over the Old Masters, in an effort to "improve" the paintings. That is sort of how Nemo feels to me.

    Prejudging is one way to spin it. Reason is another. And I can think of many wonderful things that were achieved with reason. One man's reason is another's folly. Heck, England still has a monarchy despite what America thinks is a pretty great system free of the monarchy. But, if you judge one man's reason as prejudging, well...

    Meanwhile, I would say that the Nemo overlay is far from the Splash Imagineering process. I would consider it to be more like the Tarzan overlay, the Gummi Glen overlay, WDW's Stitch overlay, its Tiki Room UNM overlay. And even a bit like our HMH overlay, but done year-round, with the original classic never to shine in its own right again. And with what I consider far less original or interesting characters and situations. Unlike SotS, Nemo hasn't been drawing audiences to theaters for over 50 years. Nemo isn't getting an attraction built from the ground up in which to house its ride. And, on top of that, while SotS was a Disney film, Nemo is just a Disney presentation of a Pixar film.

    My being optimistic about something that absolutely doesn't interest me and in fact insults me quite a bit... that doesn't seem particularly practical. But that's just my opinion.

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  • pyrateslife4me84
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  • ModHatter
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    Originally posted by pyrateslife4me84
    You stated your opinion and said we need to face the facts? There are no facts in this statement, just an opinion you are justified to have as much as anyone else is justified in their opinions. Just don't disguise your opinion as a fact. I am personally of the opinion that a futuristic ride like this fits in Tomorrowland, and the addition of the Nemo characters will make the ride more appealing to kids, so I'm all for this. And that's my opinion and not necessarily yours. But, it is also the opinion Disney is taking. It seems very early to be criticizing a ride, though. I would not have been in favor of a ride themed to Song of the South (were I in a position to be having such thoughts in the mid 1980s) because I don't think it was a worthwhile movie, and yet the Imagineers pulled it off exceedingly well. And it certainly didn't fit into Bear Country, so they changed it. And didn't Walt want Disneyland to be constantly changing? Provided it is a change for the better, but we are in no position to judge whether or not this will be a good ride since we know absolutely nothing official about it. However, I do know that the last thing I want to see is Disneyland stagnate. Let the Imagineers do their job--this is a well-funded project.
    See, you hit on an interesting point... For one, SotS won an Oscar (and an honorary Oscar for James Baskett's wonderful performance) back in the days when full-length animated features didn't have their own category. Zip-a-dee-doo-dah is up there with When you wish upon a star in terms of songs symbolizing everything magical about Disney. So, sounds pretty worthwhile, but that is a matter of opinion.

    Regardless, Splash wasn't a ride based on SotS. It was based on the idea that Disney wanted to build a flume ride, and build it in a way only Disney could. IT would have been good even without SotS, because it was at its time the highest flume drop in any amusement park, and it also had innovative touches like the flume "bunny hill." SotS just adds the icing to an already tasty cake.

    One could argue that Nemo will be a similar icing. Again, matter of opinion. But who says "we are in no position to judge whether or not this will be a good ride"?

    To quote you, "You stated your opinion... There are no facts in this statement, just an opinion you are justified to have as much as anyone else is justified in their opinions. Just don't disguise your opinion as a fact."

    We know the track layout, we know the basic vehicle, we know the new characters, we know the actual theme of the land it will be going in... We do have a large number of things on which to judge the Nemo attraction even before all the minutia and variables are nailed down. We, as park enthusiasts, are in the position to choose whether or not to judge this ride. Some may have all the evidence they need one way or the other, and some still need more...

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  • pyrateslife4me84
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    Originally posted by Ghostbuster626
    Listen, everyone needs to face facts here. Pixar and cartoons have NO place in Tommorowland. Sci fi movies? sure, original attractions themed to the future? sure, cheap overlays based on the latest "big hit" CG animated cartoon? NO.
    You stated your opinion and said we need to face the facts? There are no facts in this statement, just an opinion you are justified to have as much as anyone else is justified in their opinions. Just don't disguise your opinion as a fact. I am personally of the opinion that a futuristic ride like this fits in Tomorrowland, and the addition of the Nemo characters will make the ride more appealing to kids, so I'm all for this. And that's my opinion and not necessarily yours. But, it is also the opinion Disney is taking. It seems very early to be criticizing a ride, though. I would not have been in favor of a ride themed to Song of the South (were I in a position to be having such thoughts in the mid 1980s) because I don't think it was a worthwhile movie, and yet the Imagineers pulled it off exceedingly well. And it certainly didn't fit into Bear Country, so they changed it. And didn't Walt want Disneyland to be constantly changing? Provided it is a change for the better, but we are in no position to judge whether or not this will be a good ride since we know absolutely nothing official about it. However, I do know that the last thing I want to see is Disneyland stagnate. Let the Imagineers do their job--this is a well-funded project.

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  • Ghostbuster626
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    Listen, everyone needs to face facts here. Pixar and cartoons have NO place in Tommorowland. Sci fi movies? sure, original attractions themed to the future? sure, cheap overlays based on the latest "big hit" CG animated cartoon? NO.

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  • ModHatter
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    I've also heard from tour guides that there will never be subs in the lagoon again, so no matter what you hear, always take it with a grain of salt.

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  • NeverNeverland
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    FWIW, I heard from a tour guide that it's Nemo.
    I've also heard that same rumor that they're saving the announcement until the 17th.

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  • ModHatter
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    Originally posted by robotpirates
    I still liked the idea about puting The Incredibles into the Tron tunnel with Dash (I forget who thought of that.)

    Anyway, Mod... did you find The Incredibles dull? Interesting!
    Well, the Dash tunnel may have been me, though II may not have been the only one to suggest such a thing. But yes... even though I play with the movie's elements, the movie just didn't seem to be original. If it was supposed to be a spoof, it wasn't funny enough. It just felt like one part Fantastic 4, one part Frank Miller's "Dark Knight Returns," and one part Powerpuff Girls (but nowhere near as good).

    I do think it could be a good basis for a ride. But for my money, it better be done in a way that doesn't keep turning DLR into an unthematic Six Flags park.

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  • robotpirates
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    I still liked the idea about puting The Incredibles into the Tron tunnel with Dash (I forget who thought of that.)

    Anyway, Mod... did you find The Incredibles dull? Interesting!

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  • Uncle Remus
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    Hi I like to complain. I also like to complain about complainers. I like to give people what they deserve because if I don't set them straight, who will? I like to bash on people bashing on Disneyland because they shouldn't be bashing. I like to read into posts more then I really should and say things about that person's post that they never really said, for example "how can anyone think Disneyland is not improving with the current administration". I also like to repeat what the person above me posted but in different words because my opinion needs to be heard even if its the exactly the same as the orginal poster. But thats just me.

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  • ModHatter
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    Originally posted by Ghostbuster626
    Maybe the new Submarine Voyage is getting changed to an Incredibles theme.

    "Submarine Voyage w/Mr. Incredible: Lets Improvise but still cash in on a pixar film!"
    I still think the better way to do the Incredibles (and, for a change, doesn't so totally violate the theme of its location) would have been to put it in the SSL building instead of Monsters. You create a facade based on a Museum of Movie Superheroes, and pass through "exhibits" about them, culminating in a chance to sit inside The Incredibles' family car (based on his original car, but big enough for his family of five of course). But, just as you get in and imagine what it must be like to be one of the Incredibles, Syndrome hijacks the car by remote control! HE drives the car out of the museum, and through the streets of Metroville. New Supers try to help you along the way, but only Frozone and the Incredibles can save you and return you to the museum.

    Personally, I found the movie extremely derivative and dull, but you can make a Mr. Toad from a Wind in the Willows, and SuperHero Limo might've actually been fun.

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