Isla De Las Tortugas??? ROA Revamp?

[Cacopelao!]

Sorry...but I am full of Armchair Imagineering Ideas....I was told by a CM that works with Disney corporate that there is talk about Rivers of America (ROA) and Fronteir land becoming a little dated. When disneyland was built, the western genre was on everyone's mind...cowboys and indians, etc. Hence Fronteirland and ROA. Well, times have changed, but of course you can't just take that stuff out (and there are no plans to), but what could be done to update it a little bit.

I think with all of the influx of the pirtate craze, they could turn ROA into a priate cove...Like Isla de las Tortugas from the movie...or Port Royale...or something pirate village themed...It would blend in nicely with the rest of fronteirland and NOS...and Tom Sawyers Island could be some pirate something or other (Tom Sawyer is soooooo 100 years ago).

what do you think?

[Walt Jr.]

Re: Isla De Las Tortugas??? ROA Revamp?

Like the creativity but :thumbdown! Nothing else needs to be pirates themed!

[mcow1]

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Like the creativity but :thumbdown! Nothing else needs to be pirates themed!

I agree. Enough is enough already.

[JiminyCricketFan]

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I agree. Pirates are fun, but it can be over done. The problem with the Rivers of America is that it has lost much of the fun it had originally. NO HOUSE ON FIRE! What needs to happen is more up-to-date effects. Put a little surprise in the trip. Mixing live actors with the setting would spruce up the ride.

[MickeyMania]

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Hey, you know what else is overdone? Hidden Mickeys. I mean, the first three were cute and made good conversation starters, but enough already!

[yensidtlaw1969]

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Hey, you know what else is overdone? Hidden Mickeys. I mean, the first three were cute and made good conversation starters, but enough already!

Ya see, that's funny, because your name is MickeyMania, and you're talking about too many Mickeys, so I laugh. You may be serious, and I'm not slurring that, it's just a funny thing that I decided to point out.

I'll be leaving now.


Yensidtlaw1969

[Mac Daddy]

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Meh. Pirate overkill. As it is, Tom Sawyer's Island and the Mark Twain work very well together. Classic example of trying to fix something that isn't broken.

:botox:

Ok...so the fort is broken...and the cabin is no longer on fire...


:bang:

[Morrigoon]

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Hmm... well it would be cool if there were pirates on one side and ninjas on the other....

heh

:evil:

[Doofy]

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I really think that the pirates fad would be old in a few years. I'm not even sure it would be popular that long. ROA has been around for over 50 years. I think that they could do some reimagineering in the area. Another big e-ticket back there would be great. As long as it isn't Pixar themed. Something new. Something that has no corporate synergy. No movie tie in. Just a brand new experience.

[Walt Jr.]

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Just being thankful that they haven't closed it completely is enough!!

They need to bring back:

The Fort
The Live Actors
The Burning Cabin
The Keel Boats

They are taking the imagination out of the attractions not really famous!

[Opus1guy]

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Meh. Pirate overkill.

Agree.

When they start having morning "Pilates of the Caribbean" classes along the banks of the Rivers of America...you'll know for sure it's long-past the time to cart away that dead horse.

[woxel1]

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Cowboys are coming back I just knows it.

[krystledm]

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i think they could bring back an indian village type thing where they have cm dress in character and tell you abut the world and stuff....that would be fun


or they can just bring back all the stuff from when i was a kid in the 90's, that place was awesome for the 10 and under set! i got lost a million times without actually being lost, lol

[Importance]

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If they renamed Frontierland and RoA, how would they be able to make movies based on the Golden Horseshoe Review and Mark Twain Steamboat? Not too mention the upcoming blockbuster Big Thunder Mountain: Epitaph Gold.

[pineapplewhipaddict]

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Why do lands need to be swept up with one movie franchise? Really, A Bug's Land and now soon enough Paradise Pier will be all Toy Story...let's have some variety, shall we? PotC belongs in New Orleans Square and fits perfectly there...no reason for them to invade Frontierland.

What's already there could be easily improved. What it really needs is some TLC and a new E-ticket.

It's time to create a new Mine Train Thru Nature's Wonderland-type ride. There's all this land left in Frontierland that's going unused...it's just all over the place, and can easily be re-routed again in many of the same old places and new ones too. My idea? Create a new ride like them oldies, but also throw in old western folk tales. Annie Oakley (who was a real person by the way), Bess Call (strongest woman in America who put a city slicker in his place), Pecos Bill (for crying out loud, Disney made animated films on him!), Paul Bunion (as goes the latter), Davy Crockett, Mike Fink...I could go on and on! These stories of our history are dying-even doing a search on google turns up lackluster information for the second female I mentioned. Why not preserve these stories in a new way for current and future generations to appreciate, so that they can be remembered and used to entertain?

Oh yeah. The animatronics could use some TLC on the riverfront.

Burning cabin would be nice, too...no dead settler, though, IMO.

[3rdshiftCM]

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I would rather they burn NOS down before they alter it! NOS is one of the best parts of the park. Besides, what would happen to Mansion.

[ClubDisCM]

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I like pineapple's idea. We need more ORIGINAL ideas! Since we already have 3 trains (BTMR, DLR, & Casey Jr), they should use something other than a mine train. Pack mules would be cool, but I think that would have a low capacity. What about hand cars (or whatever they're called)? You know, like they have setting above the floral Mickey at the entrance. Stage coach is another option or possibly an uncovered wagon.

Just how much unused land is back there? Anyone know?

[Speedway]

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I think you should all take a stroll over to Al's latest update.

[Momzilla59]

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Tom Sawyer played at pirates. Why can't they combine the two? Oh,that's right, people don't READ anymore...:croll:

[TheSwami]

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Doesn't bother me in the least.

You can talk and talk about how "kids these days should read more!" or whatever but the fact of the matter is, Tom Sawyer isn't relevant anymore. He was a big pop culture icon back in the 50's and yes the book is a literary classic but for people visiting Disneyland in 2006, it means nothing. It isn't fun for kids; America as a country is long finished with its fascination with the wild west. Frontierland and Tom Sawyer's Island were
built in the 50's as a reaction to the massive popularity of pop culture icons like Davy Crockett... but all of that has faded completely.

Making Tom Sawyer's Island a kind of Pirate playground is in keeping with the notion that Disneyland is not a museum. It needs to be relevant for visitors today. There are few things at the park as irrelevant to today's visitors as Frontierland; remaking Tom Sawyer's Island is a step in the right direction. Frankly they could retheme the entire area to a fantasy Pirate land and I wouldn't complain at all. More power to 'em.

Complain as much as you like about the "pirate overkill" (one ride and a few stores is overkill?) but the franchise is a multi-billion dollar juggernaut that is massively popular and a gigantic success for the company. It isn't going to go away anytime soon and frankly I'm not surprised they're expanding the franchise's presence throughout the park. Hell, half the stuff on Tom Sawyer's Island doesn't even work properly anymore.