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    I think we all need to be reminded by what was spoken and believed by the founder and name sake of Disney.

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    "To all that come to this happy place: welcome. Disneyland is your land. Here age relives fond memories of the past, and here youth may savor the challenge and promise of the future. Disneyland is dedicated to the ideals, the dreams, and the hard facts that have created America... with hope that it will be a source of joy and inspiration to all the world."
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    "Disneyland is a show."

    "Give the public everything you can give them, keep the place as clean as you can keep it, keep it friendly"

    "I believe in being an innovator"

    "Fantasy, when properly done in the one medium best adapted to its nature, need never stale for the family taste."

    "There is more treasure in books than in all the pirates' loot on Treasure Island and at the bottom of the Spanish Main... and best of all, you can enjoy these riches every day of your life"

    "When we opened Disneyland, a lot of people got the impressions that it was a get-rich-quick thing, but they didn't realize that behind Disneyland was this great organization that I built here at the Studio, and they all got into it and we were doing it because we loved to do it"

    "You reach a point where you don't work for money"

    "Your dead if you aim only for kids. Adults are only kids grown up, anyway"

    Walter Elias Disney
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    Absolutely, this is Walt's land that he has shared with us. No change.
    27.42%
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    No, Disneyland is just a theme park and it does not matter what Walt thought or did.
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    Disneyland is a Show as Walt said, we must not forget that. But change can be good.
    70.97%
    44

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    "Your dead if you aim only for kids. Adults are only kids grown up, anyway"
    Well, this statement has been ignored for atleast 12 years. )

    Toontown anyone?
    Last edited by Mathius; 10-09-2006, 06:47 PM.

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      Re: Walt Disney Speaks: does Disney Inc. remember?

      Disney isnt following walt's perspective on things!

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        Disney loooovvvveees to quote Walt every chance they get. But that's all.

        Very rarely do they actually run the company by his words. Instead, the run it by manipulating his words to suit their needs.

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          ....."Here age relives fond memories of the past......."

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            Originally posted by CAspace View Post
            ....."Here age relives fond memories of the past......."
            Tom Sawyer Island anyone?

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              But he's stupid and dead and means nothing today because he would be old, but is dead! *rollseyes*

              This is my favorite, especially the end. The visual is great.
              "All the adversity I've had in my life, all my troubles and obstacles, have strengthened me... You may not realize it when it happens, but a kick in the teeth may be the best thing in the world for you."

              "Disneyland will never be completed. It will continue to grow as long as there is imagination left in the world." Emphasis mine.

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                "Disneyland is a show."

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                  Originally posted by Mathius View Post
                  Tom Sawyer Island anyone?
                  Yeah, but it also says the "promise of the future". Coz..you know...pirates...are like...umm....Sorry, my argument just fell apart. Kinda.

                  I think the most telling quote is about aiming for kids. This doesn't just seem to apply to the parks, but the films generally. I think that is why the POTC films have been so successful. It had been a while since Disney put out a film that was family fun, rather than just being kiddy fare. Say what you want about PIxar, but with the exception of Cars, they were closer than that in spirit than Disney were at a certain time.

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                    Originally posted by lazyboy97O View Post
                    But he's stupid and dead and means nothing today because he would be old, but is dead! *rollseyes*

                    This is my favorite, especially the end. The visual is great.
                    "All the adversity I've had in my life, all my troubles and obstacles, have strengthened me... You may not realize it when it happens, but a kick in the teeth may be the best thing in the world for you."

                    "Disneyland will never be completed. It will continue to grow as long as there is imagination left in the world." Emphasis mine.

                    I like the quotes .

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                      Originally posted by barfownz View Post
                      Disney isnt following walt's perspective on things!
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                        Originally posted by Loomis View Post
                        Say what you want about PIxar, but with the exception of Cars, they were closer than that in spirit than Disney were at a certain time.
                        Sorry, I don't mean to pick an argument, but why not Cars? What made it not as good as the others? I hope you're not basing your statement on box office results.

                        Cars was a highly-entertaining and good-hearted family film. Just as good as any Pixar film. It suffered from its characters not being the most emotionally attachable characters - at least, that is until you actually watch the film.
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                          Disney was a very wise man. A man of integrity. Someone who did the right thing, not because it was easy of made for a good "bottom line", but because it was the right thing to do. When something was in danger of not being finished up to quality, he fronted money from his own pocket. He cared that much. Whether it's their dream of not, those in charge should care just as much as he did. Should love it just as much. Quotes of things he said reflect the honest, simple nature of his caring. They show the love the man had for his work very clearly. And the deep level of understanding he had for his audience.

                          Our revels now are ended. These our actors, As I foretold you, were all spirits and Are melted into air, into thin air: And, like the baseless fabric of this vision, The cloud-capp'd towers, the gorgeous palaces, The solemn temples, the great globe itself, Yea, all which it inherit, shall dissolve And, like this insubstantial pageant faded, Leave not a rack behind. We are such stuff As dreams are made on, and our little life Is rounded with a sleep. mycroft16 on Twitter

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                              Re: Walt Disney Speaks: does Disney Inc. remember?

                              Originally posted by mycroft16 View Post
                              Disney was a very wise man. A man of integrity. Someone who did the right thing, not because it was easy of made for a good "bottom line", but because it was the right thing to do. When something was in danger of not being finished up to quality, he fronted money from his own pocket. He cared that much. Whether it's their dream of not, those in charge should care just as much as he did. Should love it just as much. Quotes of things he said reflect the honest, simple nature of his caring. They show the love the man had for his work very clearly. And the deep level of understanding he had for his audience.
                              Well done!
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                                Re: Walt Disney Speaks: does Disney Inc. remember?

                                These are the false choices of the type a change facilitator doles out.

                                No change VS change. Ridiculous.

                                There are good changes and bad changes - - quality and dreck - - changes in keeping with the spirit of Disneyland or not - - those are the choices. Old or new doesn't matter, only the substance.

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                                  How many things can that apply to?

                                  Pirates Island,
                                  Winnie the Pooh Playground in the Magic Kingdom
                                  Sitch in general.

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                                    Merlin, I really wish that I had consulted with you prior to creating the Poll. Unfortunatly once a poll has been made it can not be updated. Thanks for your constructive response though!

                                    “That’s the real trouble with the world, too many people grow up. They forget. They don’t remember what it’s like to be twelve years old. They patronize; they treat children as inferiors. I won’t do that. I’ll temper a story, yes. But I won’t play down, and I won’t patronize.”
                                    Walt Disney

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                                      Re: Walt Disney Speaks: does Disney Inc. remember?

                                      He also said that he expected the park to change as long as there is "imagination left in the world..."

                                      I think the poll is a little disingenuous to that spirit...

                                      I however think TSI change throws the baby out with the bathwater... It is more than a little bit presumptive...
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                                        Re: Walt Disney Speaks: does Disney Inc. remember?

                                        Originally posted by Speedway View Post
                                        Sorry, I don't mean to pick an argument, but why not Cars? What made it not as good as the others? I hope you're not basing your statement on box office results.

                                        Cars was a highly-entertaining and good-hearted family film. Just as good as any Pixar film. It suffered from its characters not being the most emotionally attachable characters - at least, that is until you actually watch the film.
                                        It's ok - I've been defending my anti-Cars stance for a while now.

                                        :ot: I'm certainly not basing it on box-office numbers, because half of my favourite films have a collective box office taking that would probably keep them out of the Top 10 if they all petitioned together.

                                        Cars just felt like a "paint by numbers" Pixar to me. After a brief bit of progress with The Incredibles, they immediately fell back on the old-reliable "fish out of water"/mismatched buddy comedy that they have been doing since Toy Story. I found it overlong (at 2 hours +), and a little overly sentimental without the wit of some of the previous films. This is not to say that I disliked the movie intensely, as I did actually enjoy it, but as far as Pixar's recent standards go, I found it to be a little sub-par. It was also the first Pixar film not to explore a 'secret world', as every character from spectator to racer were Cars. I like the ones were we catch a glimpse into a secret world that goes on beneath our noses. Just a personal preference is all :ot:

                                        I KNEW mentioning Cars as an aside would get me into trouble.

                                        At any rate, on with with Walt quoting!
                                        Last edited by Loomis; 10-10-2006, 03:58 PM.

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