Maybe the Original Subs won't be Returning!!

[Titanfreak46]

A friend of mine, whose father is an imagineer for Disney who told me the monorail would go down right after the 50th about 4 years ago.
The father told me that the subs will not be running on diesel engines anymore but instead an alternate source of energy. I did not want to further press him with the question. But from what i got out of it, unless they totally altered the yellow subs with new material, its not looking like the old subs will be coming back but a new submarine equipped to handle something but diesel.

[Disneylandrocks55]

Oh, your talking about the subs themselvs. I've heard that the diesel made a lot of people mad due to enviormental problems. And I've also heard that the old subs loading stair case wouldn't be acceptable to todays safety standards. So I'm guessing that's why they will get new subs. I really hoped they would anyway, but that's just me.

[robotpirates]

Yeah. Not to mention that the old subs have been sitting in the showroom for years and are probably all moldy and stank and gross.

[pineapplewhipaddict]

Yeah. Not to mention that the old subs have been sitting in the showroom for years and are probably all moldy and stank and gross.

eeeewwwwwwwwwww

now THAT would be a monster for a ride

bleh

[Titanfreak46]

Ya but some of the major outlets like Jim Hill and even Al have been reporting that the same subs would be used so i thought i would report what i heard

[ah schucks]

Ya but some of the major outlets like Jim Hill and even Al have been reporting that the same subs would be used so i thought i would report what i heard

As much as I respect there opinion, I saw the interior of the subs two years ago and unless the EPA can look past the mold I doubt the originals could be used.

[figment1986]

Disney can use the old subs as long as they are cleaned badely...

They wanted to use them for the Grandfather clause of the Accesibility act.... Since the subs wouldn't be altered to add an elevator for wheel chairs....

I think we will see the current subs cleaned and fixed up... (new engine and paint job.. interior fixed up.... ext...)

[Subgoon]

Im sure if the old subs returned, they would be heavily refurbed and not just placed back on the track. That would be bad show. Its my guess that they will have the old sub shells with upgraded controls, completely gut and install a new interior, and a new engine type to keep operating costs down. I just dont see it in a relativly small $50 mil budget to get completely new subs.

[Maseca]

$50 million, was that their set budget for the Nemo subs?

[Crispy]

As everyone has mentioned before, the old subs must be used in order to escaped being wheelchair accessible. Even if new subs were built from scratch (an undertaking so expensive, that it would be quite prohibitive), their narrow size would not allow them to be wheelcair accessible either.

In reference to their engines, . . . When the subs were still operating, one of the subs was converted to operate on compressed natural gas. However, this sub also experienced the most downtime as was often parked at the dock. So it remains to be seen waht will be the fuel of choice should the subs return to scooting around the lagoon once again.

Cris

[sleepyjeff]

50 million can buy a lot of TIDE with Bleach ....










In fact; woudn't Tide make a great sponsor for the Subs?

[Disneyfreak]

$50 million, was that their set budget for the Nemo subs?

About 70 million.

[MiceMan]

Even more Tide with Bleach!

[figment1986]

In reference to their engines, . . . When the subs were still operating, one of the subs was converted to operate on compressed natural gas. However, this sub also experienced the most downtime as was often parked at the dock. So it remains to be seen waht will be the fuel of choice should the subs return to scooting around the lagoon once again.

Cris

Hmm.. but natural gas is more cheaper.... and cleaner... perhaps their is a way to make it natural gas and have an electric backup.. (hybrid engine??)

[dlrfanatic]

Seeing how decreptit (sp) the subs are on the outside, I can only imagine what they look like inside. Im sure the cost of getting new subs would be a lot...but we are talking about disney here. Otherwise they will need a total refurbishment.

[ModHatter]

Just something to consider:

http://www.access-board.gov/adaag/html/adaag.htm#A15.1

"There will be other amusement attractions that have unique designs and features which are not adequately addressed by the guidelines. In those situations, the guidelines are to be applied to the extent possible."

So, for example, DCA rides, all of which were built after the ADA was adopted in 1990, do not always allow a guest to remain in a wheelchair. 4 of bug's land attractions require guests to transfer from wheelchair/ECV. A total of 13 attractions out of DCA's 30 require guests to make such a transfer.

[Druggas]

I say do away with the subs, and let it be a place for us to snorkle with mermaids. Wahooooo!

[pjdonnell]

In reference to their engines, . . . When the subs were still operating, one of the subs was converted to operate on compressed natural gas. However, this sub also experienced the most downtime as was often parked at the dock. So it remains to be seen waht will be the fuel of choice should the subs return to scooting around the lagoon once again.

Cris

Of course, that was about 10 years ago, yes? Perhaps the technology has improved a bit since then.

[Reaver]

Come on, people! These are subs we're talking about! Everyone knows the best subs these days are nuclear...

[ModHatter]

You know, I wonder... with the lagoon drained anyway, would it be possible to eliminate the need for an onboard engine by putting a drive mechanism in the track itself? Done properly, you could have the main track control the trip through the reef and caves, and a section of track at the loading station supervised by a single CM, eliminating the need for a captain on each ship and thus decreasing daily operating costs.