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  • A Different Take on the PeopleMover Issue

    Given that Disney officials ocassionally read rumor/fan sites and know the level of rabid Disneyphiles out in the world is fairly high, does anyone think that they'll be really closed-lipped about any possible reuse of the ex-PeopleMover/Rocket Rods track? I believe if they're going to do something with it, they'll try to avoid the fan controversy and the first we'll hear of it is when the construction walls go up. Anybody agree/disagree? Discuss.
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    Re: A Different Take on the PeopleMover Issue

    It seems the organization can be shockingly porous at times. I doubt that plans for a new attraction on the Peoplemover/Rocket Rods track could be kept under wraps for long.

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      I think it could probably remain a secret until very close to green-light time. Most things, it seems, start leaking like a sieve right about that time with the Mouse.

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        Re: A Different Take on the PeopleMover Issue

        If they, the execs, are reading the sights and such, they know the intense popularity of this attraction. I think if they DO do something, it will be major hush-hush. That's always been my thought.

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          Re: A Different Take on the PeopleMover Issue

          If they're reading this thread, then get with it!

          TL looks so stagnant without the motion the PM and SKYbuckets gave.
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            >>If they're reading this thread, then get with it!
            TL looks so stagnant without the motion the PM and SKYbuckets gave.<

            And the Rockets as the centerpiece on the pedestal. That is also key.

            Speaking of Tomorrowland, when will they finish the paintjob? The rest of the Tomorrowland Terrace building (especially the canopy), the Autopia building and the Star Tours show building all deperately need the new color schemes.

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            • #7
              Re: A Different Take on the PeopleMover Issue

              Originally posted by merlinjones View Post
              >>If they're reading this thread, then get with it!
              TL looks so stagnant without the motion the PM and SKYbuckets gave.<

              And the Rockets as the centerpiece on the pedestal. That is also key.

              Speaking of Tomorrowland, when will they finish the paintjob? The rest of the Tomorrowland Terrace building (especially the canopy), the Autopia building and the Star Tours show building all deperately need the new color schemes.

              The Autopia Building needs to be torn down and redone because it is just the ugliest structure at Disneyland right now. I don't know if new paint would help all that much with that one.


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                Re: A Different Take on the PeopleMover Issue

                Originally posted by Coheteboy View Post
                The Autopia Building needs to be torn down and redone because it is just the ugliest structure at Disneyland right now. I don't know if new paint would help all that much with that one.
                It's a giant piston. An appropriate building for Autopia, but the most bizarre execution I've seen of themeing.
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                  Re: A Different Take on the PeopleMover Issue

                  Originally posted by BassBone View Post
                  Given that Disney officials ocassionally read rumor/fan sites and know the level of rabid Disneyphiles out in the world is fairly high, does anyone think that they'll be really closed-lipped about any possible reuse of the ex-PeopleMover/Rocket Rods track? I believe if they're going to do something with it, they'll try to avoid the fan controversy and the first we'll hear of it is when the construction walls go up. Anybody agree/disagree? Discuss.
                  Everyone wants to "bring back the people mover," but really, I do not think that this is very likely to happen. Besides the subs, which have an entirely new story line, what attractions have really been brought back to life? Rides are taken out for a reason. If the People Mover was resurrected from the deade , people would likely complain that it was an out of date attraction.

                  Will something probably been done with the track eventually - yes....another People Mover - probably no.

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                    Re: A Different Take on the PeopleMover Issue

                    Originally posted by DisneyPrincess4590 View Post
                    Everyone wants to "bring back the people mover," but really, I do not think that this is very likely to happen. Besides the subs, which have an entirely new story line, what attractions have really been brought back to life? Rides are taken out for a reason. If the People Mover was resurrected from the deade , people would likely complain that it was an out of date attraction.

                    Will something probably been done with the track eventually - yes....another People Mover - probably no.
                    While an attraction is taken out for a reason, it's not necessarily a good one.

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                    • #11
                      Re: A Different Take on the PeopleMover Issue

                      Originally posted by DisneyPrincess4590 View Post
                      Everyone wants to "bring back the people mover," but really, I do not think that this is very likely to happen. Besides the subs, which have an entirely new story line, what attractions have really been brought back to life? Rides are taken out for a reason. If the People Mover was resurrected from the deade , people would likely complain that it was an out of date attraction.

                      Will something probably been done with the track eventually - yes....another People Mover - probably no.
                      That's not the point of this thread. I was just wondering if maybe to either 1) avoid controversy from fans or 2) to keep it a surprise, if/when they do something with the rotting carcass of the PeopleMover they'll keep it silent until the walls go up.
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                        Re: A Different Take on the PeopleMover Issue

                        I guess I'm wondering.. your theory as opposed to what? They rarely announce any attraction change until the work is almost starting (and the walls come up as you put it).

                        NEW construction projects often get announced, but even new ones like Toy Story didn't get announced before construction started.

                        These attractions get LEAKED before, but most don't get official confirmation until construction is under way.

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                          Re: A Different Take on the PeopleMover Issue

                          I really agree that Tomorrowland misses the Skyway and PeopleMover. I have succumbed to the fact that the SkyWay will never return and I'm fine with that.

                          But the Peoplemover? You have the track right there. I know they were burning the candle at both ends to have the Subs ready by Summer, but it seems the peoplemover would be a great way to showcase the subs with the Nemo lines being so long.

                          Neither ride was an E-Ticket, but just like ATIS, Mission to Mars, America Sings I miss them all dearly. Disney loves marketing, with the peoplemover you'll have people trapped listening to a recording for 10 minutes. Talk about new rides, merchandise available, disney travel, what's coming soon - who cares?! Just do something with that empty track.

                          I know I bounced all over the place in this thread but I think Hardcare Disney fans and the occasional tourist would both enjoy something to do in that wasted space.

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                            Re: A Different Take on the PeopleMover Issue

                            What's great about the People Mover track is that it's THERE. Tearing it down would certainly cost money. So just spend a few extra million dollars and put a people eating attraction there. The theme park market has changed since the days the people mover appeared to be "dead" even while operating. There are more guests now than ever before... plus there's the visitors at DCA who come over to Disneyland when that park closes. Disneyland really needs the People Mover now.


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                              Re: A Different Take on the PeopleMover Issue

                              Originally posted by aashee View Post
                              I really agree that Tomorrowland misses the Skyway and PeopleMover. I have succumbed to the fact that the SkyWay will never return and I'm fine with that.

                              But the Peoplemover? You have the track right there.
                              Not to completely change subjects, but this comment made me think of the other thread on Fort Wilderness being torn down. The effect of leaving a closed attraction still standing is that people can't move on, like they have with the Skyway, etc.

                              I'll be very glad to see when they do SOMETHING with the track, and I DON'T think they'll keep it any more tight lipped because it's so popular. Actually, I think the opposite will happen. I was quite late learning about Toy Story, but MAN did word travel fast when everyone's favorite, TSI, was going to undergo changes. I think the more beloved the old attraction (and the peoplemover, IMHO, is this community's golden goose in that category), the faster word will leak about plans for it.
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                              • #16
                                Re: A Different Take on the PeopleMover Issue

                                Yes Rum, I agree. Something about seeing an abandoned ride that you used to enjoy is dissapointing. People mover is one for me. The Fort I'm mixed on because it wasn't that fun to me, other liked it quite a bit I'm sure. The fort alone though looked really good in its element no matter if you liked the inside or not.

                                I think my feelings are different about the skyway because its "carcass" is not easily seen. If they left the tomorrowland entracne to the Skyway just sitting there, I'd be reminded of how fun it was all the time. But the tree covered fantasyland station isn't easy to spot. In fact I doubt most people that go there occasionally even see it. I do love pointing it out to my children, explianing what the Skyway was.

                                On that note, it would cost a lot to demolish the people mover track. It would cost even more to develop a new or upgraded attraction there. Doing absoluly nothing is the least expensive road and sadly, that's the path Disney has taken for the last decade plus. I don't mind visiting a loved one's tombstone, I just don't like it in a room in my house. We'll call that room tomorrowland.

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                                • #17
                                  Re: A Different Take on the PeopleMover Issue

                                  Let's face it, as Swab pointed out, it's a very porous organization sometimes. I think info. would get leaked at some point, regardless of the attraction's popularity among rabid and or nostalgic Disney freaks like alot of us.
                                  They have to know that a new version of the PM has great potential in the resurrection of TL, not to mention that the Peoplemover track itself is the "giant white elephant" in the living room of TL.
                                  You can hardly pass through there without going next to it, around it or under it.
                                  When I was at the park last week, and walking through TL, it occurred to me that for alot of folks, that structure is nothing more than a glorified awning to sit under and get a break from the sun.
                                  They probably have no idea that that structure used to house one of Tommorrowland's most iconic symbols.
                                  I'm really hope they see clear to bring back an updated form of the attraction. It would be easy enough to make the ride appealing to a new audience yet still be classic and perhaps timeless.
                                  It is possible to build hype and interest for an attraction that alot of people don't remember or never experienced, kind of like the Subs.
                                  The fact is, if they tap into what the Imagineers used to do best, it will succeed.


                                  Now, BRING IT BACK!!!!

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                                  • #18
                                    Re: A Different Take on the PeopleMover Issue

                                    i think that the solution to the people mover may be to make it something where you have the ability to change it... so maybe instead of solid things that arnt easily changable you do more projections and things like that... maybe you do a history of disney... or a look to the future with a look at the pass... and you get the added benifit of one of the best views in the park...

                                    when i wanted to be an imagineer... i designed a whole car that would travel on the track as nothing nore that a sightseeing car... a lot like the monorail or the railroad... i think that is the way to go... something that can be upgraded as the future changes... like walt said... disney would be a place of constant change... and i think that Tomarrowland is one of thoes places that the Imagineers need to think about that most in... just my thoughts...
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                                    • #19
                                      Re: A Different Take on the PeopleMover Issue

                                      Originally posted by flynnibus View Post
                                      I guess I'm wondering.. your theory as opposed to what? They rarely announce any attraction change until the work is almost starting (and the walls come up as you put it).

                                      NEW construction projects often get announced, but even new ones like Toy Story didn't get announced before construction started.

                                      These attractions get LEAKED before, but most don't get official confirmation until construction is under way.
                                      As opposed to being leaked and available for speculation the way some attractions have in the past. Not only keeping it quiet until the walls go up, but keeping quiet as to what the nature of the new project is until close to launch day or until it's impossible to hide what the changes are.

                                      I just had another thought (I know, don't hurt myself). If Disney decides to do something on that track, will they go for the next great E-ticket? Or will they decide to play it low and go for an A- or B-ticket. There are problems inherent in both approaches. They tried an E-ticket on the People Mover track: it failed miserably. Ran for two seasons. What if, however, they build a decent A- or B-ticket on the track? What if people still expect an E-ticket and come off less than impressed. Look at Poo(h) and Monsters, Inc. and the reaction to them. Granted, they were both somewhat poorly executed A-ticket dark rides, but consider this: Is the public only interested in E-tickets now? That's what's brought in the crowds in the recent past. Will an outstanding A-ticket be as big a draw as a mediocre E-ticket? Thoughts? Am I talking out of my rear end?
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                                      • #20
                                        Re: A Different Take on the PeopleMover Issue

                                        Well, to gauge interest for a Peoplemover-type attraction, all one really needs to do is look at the consistent attendance numbers TTA @ Magic Kingdom receives daily, and the positive affect it has on people's day. That is a measureable statistic, how much an attraction benefits a person's day, but I forgot what it was called...

                                        Oh, and I might be just a tad happy if the Peoplemover was brought back.

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