Announcement

Collapse

Gumball Rally 2018

Tickets are selling fast! Act now to reserve your spot. http://micechat.com/events/rally
See more
See less

Finding Nemo vs. Finding Nemo

Collapse
This topic is closed.
X
X
  • Filter
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts

  • Finding Nemo vs. Finding Nemo

    So after riding the subs yesterday we all got into the inevitable conversation over which was better.

    Finding Nemo Submarine Voyage at Disneyland or Nemo and Friends at Epcot.

    Surprisingly, in our family of 4 we all discovered we actually liked the supposedly "Nemo Lite" Nemo and Friends better. And then upon talking to some other people who have ridden both, we discovered we weren't alone.

    Now there may be some reasons for this:

    The wait: 2 hour wait for the subs vs. maybe a 20 minute wait for Nemo and Friends.

    The queue: The subs queue, as always, leaves ALOT to be desired whereas the Nemo and Friends queue is without a doubt one of my favorites. See Kevin's report on Nemo and Friends if you don't know what I'm talking about.

    The ride: While I'm THRILLED beyond belief that the subs are back (it was one of my favorite attractions growing up) I don't think the Nemo story is strong enough to support a ride of that length. The 3 to 5 minute dark ride program is plenty to get the point across. There was more than one occasion yesterday where I thought it was over, but it just kind of dragged on.

    The effects: The effects in the subs are top-notch. And if this is what we can expect from Imagineering for years to come then I'm VERY excited. But the effects in Nemo and Friends is nothing to shake a stick at either. Plus the ending rooms with the real fish + the Nemo fish is amazing.

    The fun: Nemo and friends is definitely more light-hearted. Leaving out "Big Blue World" from the subs is IMO unforgivable. It's such a fun song and really makes the ride complete. At least play it in the queue or at the end of the ride with the inevitable wait for the sub in front of you to move.

    The end verdict: The subs are a great ride. A true E-ticket and a welcome return to what is great about Disney. But personally, I would have preferred the subs to return in their original form with updated effects. No Nemo. If they wanted nemo in the park, the omnimover Nemo and Friends would have been amazing. When I hear how much they actually spent on the subs, you can see it. I just wasn't as impressed as I should have been. I don't think Nemo at Epcot is an E-ticket, but I don't think Nemo deserved an E-ticket. Having that story on a D-ticket attraction like so many D-ticket dark rides before it would have been sufficient.

    Will I ride the subs again, absolutely. Is it a great ride, absolutely. I would wait 30 to 45 minutes for the ride, but that's probably about it.

    EDIT: Looks like Kevin's article on Nemo has been archived. But let's just say the queue is better and leave it at that.
    162
    Finding Nemo Submarine Voyage
    18.52%
    30
    The Seas with Nemo and Friends
    10.49%
    17
    I like them both
    3.09%
    5
    I haven't ridden either one
    34.57%
    56
    I've only ridden one, so I can't really say
    33.33%
    54
    Last edited by sir clinksalot; 06-25-2007, 04:00 PM.


  • #2
    Re: Finding Nemo vs. Finding Nemo

    Well, hopefully in the next year or two, I'll be able to finally ride the subs!

    I really liked TSN&F. I was the odd man out in my group though, everyone else thought it was too kiddie-fied. Maybe someday, I'll be able to compare the two.
    - Horizonsfan

    Comment


    • #3
      Re: Finding Nemo vs. Finding Nemo

      Originally posted by horizonsfan92 View Post
      Well, hopefully in the next year or two, I'll be able to finally ride the subs!

      I really liked TSN&F. I was the odd man out in my group though, everyone else thought it was too kiddie-fied. Maybe someday, I'll be able to compare the two.
      But IMO, Nemo (and every other animated movie) should have a kiddie-fied ride to go with it. Not a 15-minute ride with more endings than Lord of the Rings: Return of the King.

      Comment


      • #4
        Re: Finding Nemo vs. Finding Nemo

        Putting "Big Blue World" in the subs is unforgivable, imo, as it's the song for the original attraction at Epcot. It should stay there.
        The Right Honorable Count Boogie Bonz of Random, at your service.

        On Track for Weight Loss!

        Comment


        • #5
          Re: Finding Nemo vs. Finding Nemo

          Originally posted by sir clinksalot View Post
          The ride: While I'm THRILLED beyond belief that the subs are back (it was one of my favorite attractions growing up) I don't think the Nemo story is strong enough to support a ride of that length. The 3 to 5 minute dark ride program is plenty to get the point across. There was more than one occasion yesterday where I thought it was over, but it just kind of dragged on.
          (BOLD mine)I agree 100%. In addition, the reliance on the 'hydrophones' argument to thematically support the inclusion of Nemo in Tomorrowland reminds me of this picture:

          Comment


          • #6
            Re: Finding Nemo vs. Finding Nemo

            Originally posted by fo'c's'le swab View Post
            (BOLD mine)I agree 100%. In addition, the reliance on the 'hydrophones' argument to thematically support the inclusion of Nemo in Tomorrowland reminds me of this picture:
            The Right Honorable Count Boogie Bonz of Random, at your service.

            On Track for Weight Loss!

            Comment


            • #7
              Re: Finding Nemo vs. Finding Nemo

              Originally posted by BassBone View Post
              The picture illustrates what happens when too much weight is placed on a inadequate frame--it goes nowhere.
              The weight= the 'Nemo' theme as it relates to TL
              The inadequate frame= the 'hydrophones/fish talk' argument
              Get it?

              Comment


              • #8
                Re: Finding Nemo vs. Finding Nemo

                Originally posted by fo'c's'le swab View Post
                The picture illustrates what happens when too much weight is placed on a inadequate frame--it goes nowhere.
                The weight= the 'Nemo' theme as it relates to TL
                The inadequate frame= the 'hydrophones/fish talk' argument
                Get it?
                gotcha
                i agree

                i think


                Comment


                • #9
                  Re: Finding Nemo vs. Finding Nemo

                  Originally posted by fo'c's'le swab View Post
                  The picture illustrates what happens when too much weight is placed on a inadequate frame--it goes nowhere.
                  The weight= the 'Nemo' theme as it relates to TL
                  The inadequate frame= the 'hydrophones/fish talk' argument
                  Get it?
                  I understand now. I had a moment of stupid. Hey, at least they tried.
                  The Right Honorable Count Boogie Bonz of Random, at your service.

                  On Track for Weight Loss!

                  Comment


                  • #10
                    Re: Finding Nemo vs. Finding Nemo

                    i bet the hydrophones was last minute after them reading countless micechat threads saying nemo wont fit

                    hahah


                    Comment


                    • #11
                      Re: Finding Nemo vs. Finding Nemo

                      Originally posted by patattack View Post
                      gotcha
                      i agree

                      i think
                      )
                      **note to self: no more weight-distribution metaphors**

                      Comment


                      • #12
                        Re: Finding Nemo vs. Finding Nemo

                        Nemo and Friends was surprisingly good. I say surprisingly because all of the recent "new" (or replacement of old stuff) attractions at WDW have been, with a few exceptions, disappointing. I have to say that I was a big fan of TLS before the change and so I was sad to see the movie The Sea's, and the hydrolaters go.

                        However, only 25 days until I get to experience the subs, not that I'm counting.
                        sigpic
                        When attractions were original

                        Comment


                        • #13
                          Re: Finding Nemo vs. Finding Nemo

                          I will come out and say it. I completely agree with Sir Clinksalot in every statement he made.

                          The seas with Nemo and Friends was short and VERY sweet.

                          The Finding Nemo Submarine Voyage is, unfortunately, an overlong children's ride that somehow lost the novelty of the original Submarine voyage by substituting the majority of its animatronics for flat digital projections and by using a storyline that is nearly a scene for scene retelling of the movie.

                          There are good points though don't get me wrong. To see the Subs again is just a joy. To be able to get into them and ride again is a wonderful wish granted. The subs are electric now, no nasty fumes. The sub vehicles sport wonderful sound and on ride effects like lightning, rocking and strobes that it never had before.

                          I think the biggest problem I have is that it is The Nemo Ride featuring Subs instead of The Subs featuring Nemo.
                          "All my life I've had one dream, to achieve my many goals.
                          Homer Jay Simpson


                          Comment


                          • #14
                            Re: Finding Nemo vs. Finding Nemo

                            Considering the subs just opened 2 weeks ago, I don't think you will have very many people who have ridden both or even 1. Try asking in a year or so and you'll get a better answer.
                            Love WoC!!!

                            Next DL trip: August 2011

                            "What do you mean we can't get rid of those weeds in time? Then go over there and put some fancy signs with Latin names in front of them."
                            -Walt Disney

                            Comment


                            • #15
                              Re: Finding Nemo vs. Finding Nemo

                              I would have to agree with Sir Clinksalot. I would have rather had the subs redone and a separate Nemo ride. There just seems to be more to the one at EPCOT including the queue. That really gets you all in the mood for the ride. The theming is fantastic.

                              On the other hand, the subs are the subs and the fact that they are back...well, it does geek me out a little. So the fact they added Nemo to it....good enough. Although the story seems to end right in the middle of the ride, but then keeps going. It's a little confusing.

                              I think the subs are cute. The ride it a little long for a whole Nemo story. But I still enjoyed it. Yeah, I wouldn't wait long for them, but I will definitely ride them again. It's the subs dude!!:lol:
                              Founding member of the B.A. I LOVE US!!
                              FratSor Sister-Delta Mu Chi Alpha ΔΜΧΑ
                              I bring the magic!!!
                              "If all my friends were to jump off a bridge, I wouldn't jump with them, I'd be at the bottom to catch them"
                              Originally posted by Reverend DMother
                              Girl bonding is just so necessary. It's just as important as "me" time. A good girl bonding session leaves you feeling so refreshed. :love: I think of it as a NEED vs a want. There are just things that you need to talk to other women with. You may have the best relationship in the world with your husband, but there are just times you need your girlfriends. It makes for a healthier and happier you which makes everything else you do better.

                              Comment

                              Working...
                              X