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  • #61
    Re: This is for people who HAVEN"T won a 'dream'

    Originally posted by InnerSpace View Post
    ...Although I know people who have won something will post and gloat.

    Anyway, those of you who have gone to a Disney Park and haven't won anything, doesn't it just make you angry everytime you go and you see dozens of people with the "dream fastpass" and it makes you just want to go to one of them and say, "Let someone else have it for once!" and then take it? This makes me sound like an obsessive, but it's like Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory, you want it so much, but only so many people get it and the other million people in the park don't. I can probably care less about the dream ears, because, let's face it, the ears are not gonna get us on the rides faster or get us great seats for some of the nighttime shows. It's the fastpasses and/or Mickey Penthouse we want.

    I go to the parks quite often alone. I find it kind of dumb and somewhat stereotypical that they almost always give the prizes to families, and more often families of 3 or more.


    That's my rant, but it's for the people who haven't won anything yet. I can't be the only one who get's jealous, resentful, and and angry everytime I see another family of 15 get fastpasses, ears, etc; especially those of us who've known about this promotion since before it began.

    Yeah, I don't really care that much..... Well, I did before. But now, I just patiently wait for my turn to have something cool, and in the mean time I just enjoy the park like I did before the days of Million Dreams giveaways...
    "Peter," she asked, trying to speak firmly, "what are your exact feelings to me?"
    "Those of a devoted son, Wendy."
    "I thought so," she said, and went and sat by herself at the extreme end of the room.




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    • #62
      Re: This is for people who HAVEN"T won a 'dream'

      Me and my wife and my 3 year old son won the dream fastpass twice in the same day at the magic kingdom in wdw. At first I was really happy. But we went on a slow day to begin with. So the dream fastpasses really didnt help much throughout the day. We actually gave are second pair to a family as we were leaving later on in the evening. I dont think there that great to begin with you can only use them once per ride anyway. Now if it were all day.......... so dont get so upset, if i would have see sombody look upset or mad that they would have ran out i would have given mine. I think the whole yomd is just a really bad gimmic. The 30th giveaway was done so much better.

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      • #63
        Re: This is for people who HAVEN"T won a 'dream'

        Originally posted by Dan - Tasmic! View Post
        I know, it sucks!! The only thing that I hate is b=people who flaunt it thinking that they are so special.

        I just guess, you have to be at the right place, at the right time. Sometimes you're lucky, sometimes, you're not!!

        I don't think a lot of people realize that with admission into Disneyland, especially with APers, or generally anyone who visits Disneyland more than once and is really into it, that there are a set of rules that go with it. A list of responsibilities. And it's really a list of rules for healthy living and common courtesy.

        It's an accepted fact that people want to have a good time and don't want to be annoyed.

        Rule #1: Make sure the people you come in contact with have a good time and aren't annoyed by you or other people you see.

        Don't show off your prizes (or passes) when people don't want to hear about it.
        Try to enjoy yourself, but do it in moderation so that others (especially first-timers, non-APers, vacationers, and foreigners) can enjoy themselves too!
        "Peter," she asked, trying to speak firmly, "what are your exact feelings to me?"
        "Those of a devoted son, Wendy."
        "I thought so," she said, and went and sat by herself at the extreme end of the room.




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        • #64
          Re: This is for people who HAVEN"T won a 'dream'

          Originally posted by Junthor View Post
          I wonder if this promotion is all a matter of perspective. I bet the people who have won the big prizes think that the promotion is a GREAT success. And the people who have "only" won the little things or nothing at all, think that it is a miserable promotion.
          You are probably partially right. The lottery sucks, GoodLuck Casino (made up name) sucks, etc. but most who have hit the jackpot will tell you that they are great. However, even with me winning 3 times, I still feel that this promotion is not a great success or a good promotion. Let me explain how and what I have won since your analysis is based on "big prizes."

          Two times I have won ears (when I say I, I'm referring to either myself and/or my wife or two daughters, which makes us a "typical" family as defined by others.) The first time was by following Darkbeers instructions on sending in postcards to the mail in part of the promotion. Keep in mind this does nothing for the Disney bottom line other than to keep within legal boundaries of a give-a-way promotion. It didn't entice me to come to a Disney park, spend a dollar on a Disney product, etc. Did I feel lucky? Yes, but as DB explained your chances of winning by mail in were probably better than actually walking into the park. PRO to this scenario, I got Dream Ears, which like BellHopPrincess, I really wanted since I collect ears. CON it cost me a bunch of money (well maybe not a bunch, but at least as much as the ears would have cost in the first place if they were sold) on postcards, time and writers cramp plus they weren't actually DisneyLand ears, they had the WDW sticker on them. Big deal? Well my name isn't DLandFansAZ for a reason, while I like and have enjoyed WDW, having actuall DL ears would have been better. The third time (I'll get back to the second in a moment) was pure luck at DCA. It was about 3:00PM (not early morning) and we were leaving the park to head home. Since I live nearly 400 miles from the park, I was on the move to get the family to hurry up so I could drive for 5 hours and get some sleep before going to work. We were heading toward the exit and passing by the exit of the Vineyard Room when I turned around to see how far the wife and kids were. When my wife saw me turn, she turned to the kids and spotted a Dream Squad tucked away at the exit of the Vineyard Room. Recognizing them, we turned around and went over and received ears from them. Truth be told, they were hidden and if I didn't know what I was looking for, I would have walked on. So if you ate at the Vineyard room you might get them, but they weren't out in the open and most people would have walked on by. Lucky yes, insider informed to what to look for, yes.

          OK, the second win was again a mail in win. This wasn't ears or a lanyard, but quite a substantial win. All I'll say is that it was worth more than $100, and I don't recall anyone posting here receiving a larger prize (at least monetarily.) If you want to know more, do a search as I posted the details and as the OP wished and I don't want to do is glote.

          So take that for what it is worth about winning a large prize (if what I won is considered a large prize.) Do I like what I won? Absolutely, but I still think the execution and delivery of how this promotion has been handled is poor at best.

          Originally posted by PeoplemoverMatt View Post
          It's not a poorly-explained promotion, it's a poorly-designed promotion. It's a poor concept altogether.

          ...and IMO the money going towards YOAMD frilly stuff could be much better spent creating a better experience for EVERYONE, not just a few lucky (repeat) winners.
          Repeat winner here (although not in the park) but I completely agree. Although I collect ears and really like the prizes I won, I would gladly trade them in for a TomorrowLand refurb that truly made sense. I think that this promotion was the best that the higher ups could come up with right after the 50th especially after the shake up of the Disney board. The 50th proved that DL was still a major player in the Disney line-up and they didn't want to loose that momentum. The new speak of the Disney people what was what going to be this years promotion. That is why it sounds like the YOAMD is being extended. Every year we need a new promotion. We have new management so we are again looking at the parks with newlywed eyes. Celebrate every year.

          Originally posted by KISSman View Post
          It's not only one of the Seven Deadly Sins, but I believe it's one of the Ten Commandments as well: Thou shalt not covet thy neighbor's Dream Fast Pass.
          Thanks for clearing that up, after what happen with my neighbor last weekend, I thought I was doomed. Whew, at least I haven't won Dream Fast Passes, do you think I should check my neighbor to make sure she hasn't won any either?
          Stalking is when two people go for a long romantic walk together but only one of them knows about it.

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          • #65
            Re: This is for people who HAVEN"T won a 'dream'

            The other day, Mad Madame Momba (can ya guess how we're related? lol) ran off to the resort by herself to ride Soarin' a few times, and when she was walking back down Disney Walk, she stopped inside Vault 28 for a few minutes. When she came out of the store, she got approached by a few Dreams cast members and they gave her the Dreams ears. Needless to say, I was VERY envious that she ended up being the first (and probably only) one in the family to actually win a Dreams prize.

            What surprised me most was that she was in the Downtown Disney Walk right outside Vault 28 when she won! I thought the Dreams cast members were only stationed inside the parks, but apparently they're not.

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            • #66
              Re: This is for people who HAVEN"T won a 'dream'

              Originally posted by The Dark Lady View Post
              The other day, Mad Madame Momba (can ya guess how we're related? lol) ran off to the resort by herself to ride Soarin' a few times, and when she was walking back down Disney Walk, she stopped inside Vault 28 for a few minutes. When she came out of the store, she got approached by a few Dreams cast members and they gave her the Dreams ears. Needless to say, I was VERY envious that she ended up being the first (and probably only) one in the family to actually win a Dreams prize.

              What surprised me most was that she was in the Downtown Disney Walk right outside Vault 28 when she won! I thought the Dreams cast members were only stationed inside the parks, but apparently they're not.
              I've seen them right near Build a Bear and the Sorcerer's Hat near the DLH a few times earlier this year. A couple weeks ago as well I know that the penthouse winner was selected from DTD...somewhere near the Grand entrance.

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              • #67
                Re: This is for people who HAVEN"T won a 'dream'

                Originally posted by InnerSpace View Post
                "Thanks for that, I'll log that away."

                if it frustrates you when you read that, then don't read it,

                with all due respect, why the hell should I care?
                Well, if you're going to post on a public forum, you should be prepared to hear all opinions - if you don't care about things posted in this thread, there's not much point in starting one in the first place.

                Originally posted by InnerSpace View Post
                I'm not desperate to win something, but it would be nice, whether I know about the promotion or not.

                Oh, and if they do favor families, then that DOESN'T make any sense, because EVERYone is supposed to be eligible for the Million Dreams as stated in the official rules (Except for Canada residents who have to answer a mathematical questions to win). No where on the official rules does it say, you must be accompanied by a family of 4 or more to be considered.
                I agree it would be nice, and like I said before, I hope you do win one of the YOAMD prizes sometime soon. But please note that I mentioned favoring families, not giving prizes exclusively to families. Prizes are given out by time and location, as I understand it. So then, if there was a family and a single guest standing by the Partners statue at X-o-clock, the prize might go to the family, but they would give it to the single guest if the family wasn't there at the right time. Also, the vast majority of Disneyland guests are not visiting alone, so a group has a higher statistical chance of winning, anyway. But you're still eligible to win, and you absolutely should be.

                Originally posted by InnerSpace View Post
                I'd have to be crazy to loan anyone my AP, get your own.
                I'd love to, but unfortunately I can't afford one. But it's alright, because even if you did loan me yours, I can't afford the airfare to California anyway.

                Please enjoy your days at Disneyland. I'm sorry if I offended you.
                You don't need me or my ham, cheese, cheese, cheese, tomato, cheese, ham and tomato sandwiches. And cheese.



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                • #68
                  Re: This is for people who HAVEN"T won a 'dream'

                  We have won at WDW and DL.

                  We were the first family to go on Rock n Rollercoaster at MGM (we went back stage, got a certificate and free ice cream)

                  We won a private tour of one of the trails at Animal Kingdom

                  We got the free 5x7 pictures at DL.

                  It is totally random. You have to be at the right place at the right time.

                  Yes we would love to win more, but if we don't we don't. We don't go to DL expecting to win something everytime. I don't expect to win anything when we are at WDW for 10 days either. Would it be nice, yes. Will it ruin my vacation. No way.

                  I think what helped us in Florida is we wore our 1st visit pins and they saw those. I don't know. Maybe it was coincidence.

                  Don't go into the parks expecting to win something and you won't be disappointed.
                  *When a friend is in trouble, don't annoy him by asking if there is anything you can do. Think up something appropriate and do it.

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                  • #69
                    Re: This is for people who HAVEN"T won a 'dream'

                    Originally posted by Coheteboy View Post
                    hhahhaha that would make ME the foolish mortal now wouldn't it?
                    See you on Bats Day !

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                    • #70
                      Re: This is for people who HAVEN"T won a 'dream'

                      Originally posted by Coheteboy View Post
                      I never won anything but I also don't care or get jealous because it's a STUPID campaign! Ugh, I hate it! I can't wait for it to end so I can enjoy the park without being a total loser everytime I go.
                      Your post made me chuckle because I feel the same but I still sense the green eyed monster in you.

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                      • #71
                        Re: This is for people who HAVEN"T won a 'dream'

                        One of my friends is VERY high up in the dream squad. The last time I saw him at DL he was rushing off to meet the penthouse family. I've been to DL countless times since the promotion started, and the only time I've won (fastpasses) was when i followed his advice. He told me to get there early, right when it opened and get on the rides. It is random, but he said that the morning is the best time to win. Of course, this was when it first started, so I don't know if it's the same now.
                        ...I finally changed my avatar...

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                        • #72
                          Re: This is for people who HAVEN"T won a 'dream'

                          I have read a number of responses that indicate folks who have been to D-land many times and have not recieved YOMD prizes. My 2 year old son and I go nearly every friday and I think that one of the keys to getting prizes is time of day. We usually get to the park between 9:45 and 10:45. We go to fantasyland and ride small world or the carousel (depending on the time we arrived) and then get over to the Golden Horseshoe by 11:00 to get lunch and the 11:15 Billy Hill show. Nearly every time we see people handing out ears, lanyards and dream fastpasses somewhere in Fantasyland (usually at the exit of a ride which means that you need to get on and off the ride before they leave which hasn't worked for us) or by the Carnation Dance stage. I think that 10-11am is a prime hour for give aways.

                          Also in response to the original post that Dustysage and Fishbulb aren't a family of 4 - I was watching a white vested YOMD prize person and a Team Disney person standing watching Dumbo for about 10 minutes. Then all of a sudden (after many groups of 1, 2 and 3 went by) they closed in on a family of 4 and started asking questions and verifying they were not associated with Disney. I don't know what they won, but it sure appeared to need to have a family of 4. I think there is something going on with the major prizes in that regard.

                          I know that this next statement won't sit well with some people, but they do want to put forward the image of being a family park, so having people with their kids winning bigger prizes does make sense in the marketing realm.

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                          • #73
                            Re: This is for people who HAVEN"T won a 'dream'

                            One more thing to think about- When you see a family with the Dream Mouse ears or wearing the lanyards it catches your eye because there is such a large concentration of something different and it stands out. If I am alone at D-land wearing the lanyard you wouldn't notice my prize as much because I would just be lost in the crowd. Part of the feeling that all prizes go to families is that they are easier to spot. If you don't believe me go to D-land the first weekend in October. Notice how many people are wearing red. Then go the next weekend and see how many people are wearing red. I will bet that it will be more noticeable on a weekend where there is a higher concentration.

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                            • #74
                              Re: This is for people who HAVEN"T won a 'dream'

                              I figure since my kids are grown up and hubby and I go alone....we will never win squat! I may rent a couple of kids on my next trip in December.

                              I went alone in July for 2 days, and last week for a day with a friend in So. Cal. I didn't even SEE the prize people. Jerks.

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                              • #75
                                Re: This is for people who HAVEN"T won a 'dream'

                                Ugh man first they forced me to come to Disneyland and then they had the nerve to not give me a prize for coming here!!

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                                • #76
                                  Re: This is for people who HAVEN"T won a 'dream'

                                  Originally posted by Dustysage View Post
                                  Fishbulb and I have been to the parks over a hundred times (WDW and DL) since the Years of a million+ Dreams started. We've never won anything. But we have lots of friends with families (good looking people with kids) who have won multiple times.
                                  That is very sad.... I have found the same to be true and it just seems a little strange to me!!
                                  I'm addicted and I don't care!!! :yea:

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                                  • #77
                                    Re: This is for people who HAVEN"T won a 'dream'

                                    Originally posted by Dustysage View Post
                                    Fishbulb and I have been to the parks over a hundred times (WDW and DL) since the Years of a million+ Dreams started. We've never won anything. But we have lots of friends with families (good looking people with kids) who have won multiple times.

                                    I'm sure that Disney isn't discriminating against us, but it does seem strange when I see the same people winning over and over again and we never do.

                                    Overall, I think the Year of a Million Dreams is a poor campaign - hard for guests to understand and just increases the level of inequality at the parks. With special treatment for people with Fastpass, People with Dreams, People with tour guides, Disneyland is becoming increasingly less equal for all. At least that is the way they are making it seem for the thousands of people who come to the parks every day who don't know how to work the system or who don't win a dream.



                                    We haven't won anything. We go about once a year and on our vacation last summer, I spotted 2 of the 'Prize Patrol' down by HM. Just standing there, not many people around, it was early in the morning. My family and I kinda hung around the immediate area for awhile, but won nothing. I didn't point them out to the kids as I didn't want to get their hopes up and then get them disappointed. Oh well, maybe we weren't good looking enough. Now that really helps my self-esteem.

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                                    • #78
                                      Re: This is for people who HAVEN"T won a 'dream'

                                      I wouldn't say I get jealous. Sure I'd like to win one, and it would have been awesome on my birthday, but I have an AP and can go to the park whenever I want.

                                      I think if I won one, most likely I would just give it to someone who looked like they were out of towners visiting the park.

                                      And I didn't know that it works as a pass to get you into DCA if you only bought a single park ticket, that's nice.
                                      Happy 2009, MiceChatters!!

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                                      • #79
                                        Re: This is for people who HAVEN"T won a 'dream'

                                        Originally posted by Dustysage View Post
                                        Fishbulb and I have been to the parks over a hundred times (WDW and DL) since the Years of a million+ Dreams started. We've never won anything. But we have lots of friends with families (good looking people with kids) who have won multiple times.

                                        I'm sure that Disney isn't discriminating against us, but it does seem strange when I see the same people winning over and over again and we never do.

                                        Overall, I think the Year of a Million Dreams is a poor campaign - hard for guests to understand and just increases the level of inequality at the parks. With special treatment for people with Fastpass, People with Dreams, People with tour guides, Disneyland is becoming increasingly less equal for all. At least that is the way they are making it seem for the thousands of people who come to the parks every day who don't know how to work the system or who don't win a dream.
                                        This is based only on what I see from Fishbulb's Sunday Trip Reports but ...

                                        It seems that you often don't get to the parks particularly early and you often don't stay very long.

                                        This would seem to narrow the window for you receiving a prize and not be present in what seems to be a semi-optimum part of the day:mornings.

                                        I don't know whether Sunday YOAMD prize quotas are scaled up for Sundays or park attendance but on weekends there sure is a fair amount more competition.

                                        OTOH it could just be bad luck and you're probably not alone in that by far.

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                                        • #80
                                          Re: This is for people who HAVEN"T won a 'dream'

                                          Originally posted by I Heart Disneyland View Post
                                          I figure since my kids are grown up and hubby and I go alone....we will never win squat! I may rent a couple of kids on my next trip in December.
                                          You can borrow mine but I don't think it will help. We have been many times and never won and you can't get more "nuclear family" looking than us, (husband, wife, son -9 and daughter -7).

                                          We have even seen the prize patrol handing out the dream fast passes, or mark of the beast as I call them, and asked for them, but we were going the "wrong direction on the sidewalk" or entering and "not exiting the ride" and they would not give them to us.

                                          Good luck in December!

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