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  • Thoughts Concerning the Recent D.C.A. Announcement

    At the time D.C.A. was in development and under construction, I had my own turn-of-the-Century alter ego who was a train conductor for the Disneyland Railroad. And, at Main Street Station, he would give the following announcement since boarding passengers had full view of the new park that was taking shape across the way:

    Good day, ladies and gentleman. Welcome to The Magic Kingdom of Disneyland, and welcome aboard the Disneyland Railroad.

    In just a few moments, The "Disneyland Limited" will depart everyone's hometown, Main Street, U.S.A., to begin a Grand Circle Tour into the four cardinal realms of the imagination: Adventureland; Frontierland; Fantasyland; and, Tomorrowland. Until that time, we do ask that you kindly remain seated as our departure is imminent.

    (pause)

    In the year Nineteen-Hundred and Twenty-Three, Walt Disney would leave middle America aboard another train, the "California Limited", to establish the first animation studio in a land called "Hollywood" and in a golden place known as "California".

    Nineteen-Hundred and Fifty-Five would later mark the year California would begin hosting the gateway to Walt Disney's greatest dream: The Magic Kingdom of Disneyland.

    Now, directly across from the gates of Disneyland, where the magic began, The Walt Disney Company welcomes the world to Disney's California Adventure, a celebration of all pursuits golden.

    Disney's California Adventure is the further fulfillment of Walt Disney's intention that Disneyland be a place for California "to be at home" and "to host its guests".

    When it opens in the year Two-Thousand and One, Disney's California Adventure will join Disney's Grand Californian Hotel and the new gathering place, Downtown Disney, to form: Disneyland Resort, in California.

    A preview of the expanded Disneyland resort is available now at the exit lobby to the Disneyland Opera House, which is, itself, located here at Town Square. The Disneyland Railroad invites its passengers to visit the preview center upon returning to Main Street, U.S.A. At this time, though, please take your seats. The "Disneyland Limited" is now departing Main Street Station to begin the Grand Circle Tour.

    All aboard!
    The above spiel I wrote in the late '90's is a story that integrates the entire resort into a unified whole. The announcement also presented the opening of D.C.A. as being the culmination of the entire history of The Walt Disney Company. I knew, at the time, that D.C.A. was going to largely be an artistic failure. But, I also knew that the park had the potential to be so much more. Now, with the announcement of a 1920's Hollywood serving as the entrance to the new park, I feel somewhat better about the direction D.C.A. is taking, but I still have serious reservations that are intensified by the fact that the stakes for this $1.1 billion remodeling are so high.

    In my next entry in this thread, I'll offer my opinions about both the good and the bad. I really hope that the company gets D.C.A. right this time, and I really want to see a unified Disneyland resort that does justice to the legacy of the man who created the place.
    Last edited by PragmaticIdealist; 10-19-2007, 03:04 PM.

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    Re: Thoughts Concerning the Recent D.C.A. Announcement

    Originally posted by PragmaticIdealist View Post
    I really hope that the company gets D.C.A. right this time,
    Everything is a downgrade these days. The idea the money buys quality, and care...it doesn't. Money goes into people's pockets, and they set aside ever larger amounts for the price-gouging that goes on, routinely, in construction and building industry.

    When it's all finished everybody's going to ask.....where-did-all-the-money-go?

    It's always like that, isn't it?

    Sorry to be so cynical and jaded, but it's time to face reality.

    It doesn't cost 1.1 Billion to renovate a theme park. 1.1 Billion is a junior Westcot, maybe.

    The law of diminishing returns: The more money you throw at a problem, the less satisfaction in the outcome!
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      Re: Thoughts Concerning the Recent D.C.A. Announcement

      It doesn't cost 1.1 Billion to renovate a theme park. 1.1 Billion is a junior Westcot, maybe
      True 1.1 billion would be about a third of westcot.



      WHY COULDN"T THEY HAVE BUILT WESTCOT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
      THEY WERE GOING TO BRING BACK ATIS!!!!!!:thumbdown:argue::verymad::!$#%::bang::bash:

      Anyway thats all I have to say
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      • #4
        Re: Thoughts Concerning the Recent D.C.A. Announcement

        I have faith that this version of DCA will be much more successful. They amount and type of new attractions going into DCA 2.0 is the kind of stuff the DL APers and public have been asking for since 1997 when DCA 1.0 was announced.
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        • #5
          Re: Thoughts Concerning the Recent D.C.A. Announcement

          Downgrade Downgrade Downgrade !
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          • #6
            Re: Thoughts Concerning the Recent D.C.A. Announcement

            I'm pleased with the announcements so far...

            however, I still have issues with the "California" theme.

            I still don't think they are doing it right.

            "A Bug's Land"... Why is this still here? Wanna keep the rides in it?.. Fine .. just Retheme it..

            Either do California right or don't do it at all.
            All your dreams can come true if you have the courage to pursue them. - Walt Disney

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            • #7
              Re: Thoughts Concerning the Recent D.C.A. Announcement

              Originally posted by Pisces View Post
              Downgrade Downgrade Downgrade !
              How are these new concepts downgrades?

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              • #8
                Re: Thoughts Concerning the Recent D.C.A. Announcement

                I would not definitely consider these additions downgrades, but I bet a majority on these boards feel that the changes may not be enough to make DCA a home-run for everyone. It may still suffer from low attendance, unless the 2-Fer does not find its way to Vault Disney.
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                  Re: Thoughts Concerning the Recent D.C.A. Announcement

                  I don't know, you are talking to a HUGE cynic of DCA and while yes, the park is definitely an artistic failure (how many Disney entrances have been REBUILT before), it always had potential. I see that potential now and assume it can only get better before it got worse (like the first 2 years of operation). I agree though, they should change the name. Once they do that, it would be easy to justify anything they build because let's face it, outside of the new entrance and HPB, the rest of the park could be anywhere, USA.

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                  • #10
                    Re: Thoughts Concerning the Recent D.C.A. Announcement

                    Channel 7 yesterday announced that they will most likely change DCA's name at some point. Channel 7 is owned by Disney and if this was not true I am sure they would have not reported it.

                    Throw California out the window. This park is now a celebration of Walt Disney.

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                    • #11
                      Re: Thoughts Concerning the Recent D.C.A. Announcement

                      So, it's Walt Disney's Adventure?

                      Or Walt Disney's Adventure in California?

                      How 'bout Walt's Disney's California Adventure?
                      *People JUDGE me too quickly...

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                      • #12
                        Re: Thoughts Concerning the Recent D.C.A. Announcement

                        Originally posted by DisneyIPresume View Post
                        Channel 7 yesterday announced that they will most likely change DCA's name at some point. Channel 7 is owned by Disney and if this was not true I am sure they would have not reported it.

                        Throw California out the window. This park is now a celebration of Walt Disney.
                        If it were true, would they be allowed to report it? If it were true, wouldn't that have been in the press release?
                        It is unknown, but it makes sense to change the name.

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                        • #13
                          Re: Thoughts Concerning the Recent D.C.A. Announcement

                          And, even California's Adventure with Walt Disney?
                          *People JUDGE me too quickly...

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                          • #14
                            Re: Thoughts Concerning the Recent D.C.A. Announcement

                            I should start a new thread on this. But I am so excited about the changes. If you forget about California, what they are doing actually makes sense. I think some snippets will remain here and there, like with what they are doing to the Paradise Pier area, Hollywood backlot, and Condor Flats. But in general the park is turning into a celebration of Walt Disney rather than a celebration of California.

                            What we are getting is basically a brand new park.

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                            • #15
                              Re: Thoughts Concerning the Recent D.C.A. Announcement

                              As someone who has been waiting an eternity for something, anything good to happen in DCA, I just don't get those of you that aren't at least a little impressed.
                              I can't wait.
                              The only thing I'm not excited about right now is the cm crisis.
                              That needs some attention.
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                              • #16
                                Re: Thoughts Concerning the Recent D.C.A. Announcement

                                Well, I'm still a DL and DCA newbie, for the most part, but by no means new to amusement and theme parks. There is a MARKED difference between the two parks. DCA comes across as an amusement park that lost most of its major rides and is trying to trnasform into a theme park. It was on the right track but stalled out. The ideas I've looked through certainly show a cohesiveness sorely missing at DCA. To me there is far too much pavement and not enough visual stimulation at DCA as it stands today...much like what happened to Geauga Lake in Aurora, OH, and look what happened to it (Granted, Six Flags can kill ANYTHING). Theming it to the California Walt first encountered certainly makes the two parks work better together...

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                                • #17
                                  Re: Thoughts Concerning the Recent D.C.A. Announcement

                                  The updates seem so friggin awesome

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                                  • #18
                                    Re: Thoughts Concerning the Recent D.C.A. Announcement

                                    I still think the California part of the name fits. And enhancing the concept of Walt Disney's arrival to California, makes it even better. The CARS part fits with California car culture. The red car, adds a lovely touch... I do find it humorously ironic that they are adding one tiny public transportation option, and an entire CARS land...that is so the California I live in...lol

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                                    • #19
                                      Re: Thoughts Concerning the Recent D.C.A. Announcement

                                      I'm voting for Disney Adventure, or Walt Disney's Adventures. If there's a vote. And those are on the ballot.
                                      "It was worth it if you learned something."

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                                      • #20
                                        Re: Thoughts Concerning the Recent D.C.A. Announcement

                                        Let's start with the name. I'm encouraged to learn that Bob Weiss has already begun dropping "Adventure" from his references to the park.

                                        "Adventure" is such a generic and hackneyed word that conjures in the minds of the public all the wrong kinds of imagery. "Disney's California" isn't perfect, but it is an incremental improvement. And, I look forward to a more fitting title in the future.

                                        I happen to have a small side business that is currently using the trademark, "Golden California", and, obviously, to me, that name is ideal for the park. But, I like using the term for my own company, too, so I'm conflicted since there is definitely the potential for the public to confuse Disney's operation with my own. "Golden California", though, would work well with "The Magic Kingdom" since the adjective, "Golden", parallels "Magic" and since the word indicates the romance and evocativeness that a re-imagined D.C.A. needs to deliver.

                                        We'll have to see if a new trademark is forthcoming. I hope so.

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