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  • #1

    3d Photos

    Datameister's incredible Disneyland in 3d project got me to wondering...

    Microsoft has created what is arguably one of the coolest applications ever, Photosynth. If you haven't heard about it, go and check it out here: http://labs.live.com/photosynth/

    It hasn't been generally released yet to the public but seeing all the photos that people have of trip reports and the random picture of the service door on the side of the HM recently posted to Datameister's thread got me thinking how cool it would be to use this program to create a 3d photo layout of Disneyland using all of our combined photos. There are probably not many places that we haven't photographed in some way yet.

    How cool would that be to play with? I think I may just go and suggest it to Microsoft that they prepare a photoset of that.

    Our revels now are ended. These our actors, As I foretold you, were all spirits and Are melted into air, into thin air: And, like the baseless fabric of this vision, The cloud-capp'd towers, the gorgeous palaces, The solemn temples, the great globe itself, Yea, all which it inherit, shall dissolve And, like this insubstantial pageant faded, Leave not a rack behind. We are such stuff As dreams are made on, and our little life Is rounded with a sleep. mycroft16 on Twitter
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    I've thought about it, too. It'd be nice, don't you think? Unfortunately, photo coverage of Disneyland is not nearly as good as it might seem. Yes, it may be the subject matter on 20% of all Kodak film, and I'm sure the amount of space consumed by digital shots must be in the millions of terabytes. But...most Disneyland photography focuses on the major icons, not on the so-called lesser details. And it's a big place, too.

    Anyway, I'm greatly looking forward to when this becomes reality...

    By the way, for anyone who doesn't know, Microsoft has recently employed Photosynth-like technology in their Live Search Maps feature (local.live.com). When you view the world in 3D and turn on Bird's Eye, the outlines of the aerial photos appear for you to click on. Very cool.

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    • #3
      Re: 3d Photos

      I've been following the photosynth thing for awhile, and downloaded a copy of the experimental version for my system at home. Too bad it doesn't let you enter your own photos yet.

      But what I've seen of it doesn't strike me that it actually lets you get a 3D view of the result, just an ability to fly around a rough frame drawing and see the view of any given photo from the spot where it was supposedly taken.

      I'd like to just get a 3D reconstruction of Nature's Wonderland. There are a ton of pictures of that area out there, enough to do a decent job I think.
      "Say, uh, ever hear of the devil's paint pots? Real mystery of the desert. Bubblin' pots of mud in all kinds of colors."

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        Re: 3d Photos

        But what I've seen of it doesn't strike me that it actually lets you get a 3D view of the result, just an ability to fly around a rough frame drawing and see the view of any given photo from the spot where it was supposedly taken.
        I'm hoping that the technology eventually progresses to full 3D views. This is indeed theoretically possible, since the locations given are not where the photos were "supposedly" taken. Each collection receives hours or days of automated computing time that are used to calculate exactly where each photo was taken. There's nothing subjective about it--perspective follows mathematical laws. Anyway, these photos should be able to be blended into full 3D composites if enough photos are taken.

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        • #5
          Re: 3d Photos

          The current version does not do a full 3d, just sort of shows where they photos are.

          The full version that you get glimpses of in the demo videos show them flying around in the point cloud generated by the algorithm. They can position the camera anywhere and pan/dolly/tilt through it. It still has the point cloud, but the point cloud takes on the color qualities of the photos as well. Actually 3d texture mapping the point cloud would be fairly difficult to do given all the various lighting in all of the photographs. But it could be done given enough computing time and processing power. I really can't wait till they link it up to Flickr, photobucket and google images. Not to mention linking intelligently out to websites. Say you are looking at Times Square and see a store you want to know more about and you click on it and fly out into its website, then back in, down the street and out to that website.

          Our revels now are ended. These our actors, As I foretold you, were all spirits and Are melted into air, into thin air: And, like the baseless fabric of this vision, The cloud-capp'd towers, the gorgeous palaces, The solemn temples, the great globe itself, Yea, all which it inherit, shall dissolve And, like this insubstantial pageant faded, Leave not a rack behind. We are such stuff As dreams are made on, and our little life Is rounded with a sleep. mycroft16 on Twitter

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          • #6
            Re: 3d Photos

            This is extremely cool. Doing Disneyland would be a fun challenge.

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            • #7
              Re: 3d Photos

              Originally posted by Datameister View Post
              Most Disneyland photography focuses on the major icons, not on the so-called lesser details.
              What do you consider "lesser details"? I've taken pictures of the outside of the bathrooms. I don't think the details get any lesser than that!
              It's actually "Cars Land", not "Carsland".

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              • #8
                Re: 3d Photos

                What do you consider "lesser details"? I've taken pictures of the outside of the bathrooms. I don't think the details get any lesser than that!
                And I commend you for doing so! (No, that was not sarcasm. I spend ridiculous amounts of time photographing stuff most people couldn't care less about.) All I meant was that these less iconic aspects of Disneyland are much less frequently photographed, and even less frequently exhibited online. And there are a lot of these sorts of areas. Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying this is impossible or even all that impractical--I just wanted to point out that there are plenty of areas of Disneyland I've never seen photos of, and the total number of hours I've spent looking up obscure Disneyland photos online is obscenely huge.

                If this project ever comes to fruition, I'll be eager to help! Like I said, this is something I think about every time I think of PhotoSynth.

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                • #9
                  Re: 3d Photos

                  There's nothing subjective about it--perspective follows mathematical laws. Anyway, these photos should be able to be blended into full 3D composites if enough photos are taken.
                  My phrasing was poor. I wasn't calling into question the accuracy of the photo placement; what I meant by that was that the model reconstructed the location of the camera based upon the available data. Exactly what you said. I just didn't say it so well.

                  Anyway... I'm hoping for the same thing. I would love to be able to see the full 3D rendering of a part of Disneyland that isn't there anymore.
                  "Say, uh, ever hear of the devil's paint pots? Real mystery of the desert. Bubblin' pots of mud in all kinds of colors."

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                  • #10
                    Re: 3d Photos

                    Lol, I've taken pictures of Bathrooms as well. At Disneyland, there really are no lesser details.

                    Our revels now are ended. These our actors, As I foretold you, were all spirits and Are melted into air, into thin air: And, like the baseless fabric of this vision, The cloud-capp'd towers, the gorgeous palaces, The solemn temples, the great globe itself, Yea, all which it inherit, shall dissolve And, like this insubstantial pageant faded, Leave not a rack behind. We are such stuff As dreams are made on, and our little life Is rounded with a sleep. mycroft16 on Twitter

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