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  • #21
    Originally posted by Donald1980 View Post

    The only way I see "A Bug's land" leave is via the same way the Tower left. Just glue a new sign to each attraction and say it's from Marvel.
    I remember when everyone was pretty adamant not that long ago TOT was not leaving for GOTG. It was just a silly internet rumor...until it wasn't.

    But obviously though I'm not saying ABL is leaving or its on the chopping block. There is no word to anything about it. And said in my OP I don't actually think this would happen. As said its just an idea obviously. That said though its not to say it will never happen. DCA has probably been the most unpredictable theme park development in its time. I never thought TOT would ever leave. It seem as iconic to me as Splash, SM, POTC, Soain, etc is and now thats gone.I don't think a few acres of a kiddy land based on a film no one talks about anymore is sacred land. It may never be touched or it could be bulldozed in a year. We just don't know what the long term thinking is.

    But I suspect either way they didn't plop down this huge Marvel eye sore without some major plans. Hoping at the very least the backlot behind it will get used or it will just look very out of place.

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    • #22
      Originally posted by Fctiger View Post

      I remember when everyone was pretty adamant not that long ago TOT was not leaving for GOTG. It was just a silly internet rumor...until it wasn't.

      But obviously though I'm not saying ABL is leaving or its on the chopping block. There is no word to anything about it. And said in my OP I don't actually think this would happen. As said its just an idea obviously. That said though its not to say it will never happen. DCA has probably been the most unpredictable theme park development in its time. I never thought TOT would ever leave. It seem as iconic to me as Splash, SM, POTC, Soain, etc is and now thats gone.I don't think a few acres of a kiddy land based on a film no one talks about anymore is sacred land. It may never be touched or it could be bulldozed in a year. We just don't know what the long term thinking is.

      But I suspect either way they didn't plop down this huge Marvel eye sore without some major plans. Hoping at the very least the backlot behind it will get used or it will just look very out of place.
      I didn't say it couldn't happen, however Disney knows they would need to replace what was taken away, a place for that age group, before they were to remove it. That's why I truly believe that place has a better chance of becoming a place for "Ant Man" than it does of getting removed entirely. Which is the reason I said the following quote:

      The only way I see "A Bug's land" leave is via the same way the Tower left. Just glue a new sign to each attraction and say it's from Marvel.

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      • #23
        Originally posted by YeaDZNY View Post
        How about get rid of Bugs Land (because its lame) and leave the Marvel crap to Universal Studios :-)
        Im sorry...I can never relate Marvel with Disney (and Im so burned out on all this Super Hero crap)
        Marvel is a Disney company, has made $10 billion in revenue just by the movie box office alone in the last 7 years and they are currently putting in an attraction based off a hit film series that both opens in two months. Its not going anywhere. In a decade there will probably be just as many Marvel attractions in Disney parks as there are Pixar.

        I really don't mind it personally as long as they find a proper theme or area to put it in. I'm not overly excited about GOTG but I have a feeling its going to be a strong attraction.

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        • #24
          Agreed with others that have stated the need for young kid type rides. It is very easy to look at anything from only your perspective. Of course I would love to have a park full of e ticket rides but as a dad with kids who have visited and only rode things that others hate(Pooh, gadget go coaster, redwood creek, etc.)I have always appreciated the variety of things offered even though they may not be very amusing to a large demographic. i think disney properties would be so much better if all unused or unnecessary space was built up before things got demolished.

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          • #25
            Originally posted by Natalie Price View Post
            I would turn all the yellow area (see photo) into Marvel Land. The shed/garage for the Red Car Trolley can be moved to the east of GOTG. That way it can stay in the Hollywood-themed area next to the Hyperion.
            The majority of the year that parking lot is unused. And those small structures to the south are just trailers which really don't serve a purpose either and can be moved. Imagineering is located in one of them, but I'm sure they prefer to have a nice office in one of the white structures to the east.
            I like this idea. While I have someone in my house who would be very sad to not have Monsters, Inc. to ride anymore, I think that's the best use of that area. Bug's Land is a nice actual play place with family bathrooms and immersive theming. It's just plain fun. Marvel should definitely have more room and if they are not going to start with a whole new park it should be easier to raze and do construction work on that edge of DCA. Plus, maybe the Monorail could run through a ride building or something. That would be very cool!

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            • #26
              Bugs is just too cute...

              a pity "Tomorrow Land" doesn't have the same style and wit
              or the area around Monsters... I've hope someday that theme-less area would earn a theme... preferably Monstropolis

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              • #27
                Getting rid of Bugsland for Marvel is a bad idea. Bugsland serves a valuable purpose. As a parent, I really appreciate Bugsland because it offers younger guests some fun attractions for them to enjoy during the years that you wait for them to be tall enough to go on the E ticket rides. Also, some guests are just not really into Marvel super heroes. Other guests...some adults, even...want to go on some attractions, but maybe they can't handle stuff like the Mad Tea Party. So a "boring" ride in Bugsland like Heimlich's Chew Chew Train is right up their alley.

                I do think that the "It's Tough To Be A Bug" theater should be replaced with something else. But they should keep the rest of Bugsland as is.

                The Hollywood back lot is sadly in need of attractions. That would be a good place for Marvel stuff.

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                • #28
                  I can't tell you the last time my family actually went to Bugs Land (and we had a 2 year old with us on our last trip). It just has no appeal (unlike ToonTown, which I actually love). I hope Bugs Land's days are numbered, as it is a huge waste of precious real estate. Marvel "land" could easily be developed in such a way as to appeal to all ages (besides the Guardians ride and this alleged roller coaster). It's not like little kids don't love super heros. In fact my 5yo granddaughter and her similarly aged cousins, all are very familiar with and love Spider-Man, Hulk, Iron Man, etc., but have probably never seen Bugs (though I admit I actually really like that movie).
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                  • #29
                    Amazing timing on this article. It mentions the Marvel Land and the potential casualty of "A Bug's Land", http://micechat.com/155827-david-koe...-off-tomorrow/

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                    • #30
                      Originally posted by Donald1980 View Post
                      Amazing timing on this article. It mentions the Marvel Land and the potential casualty of "A Bug's Land", http://micechat.com/155827-david-koe...-off-tomorrow/
                      Good article and thank you for sharing it. I am surprised it has not gotten more reaction. I would imagine the modern tech rehab of Fantasyland and what they could mean would be a big deal. It could be a good thing or it could mean more video displays that many seem to strongly dislike.

                      I would hope bugs land stays, it is cute and lil kiddies love it and that always come first for me.

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                      • #31
                        Originally posted by CoalingaLucy View Post

                        Good article and thank you for sharing it. I am surprised it has not gotten more reaction. I would imagine the modern tech rehab of Fantasyland and what they could mean would be a big deal. It could be a good thing or it could mean more video displays that many seem to strongly dislike.

                        I would hope bugs land stays, it is cute and lil kiddies love it and that always come first for me.
                        I think it was just posted this morning. I was shocked to find out that no one had posted it in here yet.

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                        • #32
                          Why not combine the concepts, keep some of Bugs Land and have it sponsored by Ant Man - He uses the Pym Particles to shrink you down to the size of a bug so you can appreciate that It's Tough To Be a Bug.

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                          • #33
                            Originally posted by Fctiger View Post
                            I been thinking about this several days now and all the crazy Marvel land rumors happening. The idea of Marvel land being split into two parts on the TOT side and the small real estate behind it and then I guess the rest will fit into the Hollywoodland court yard where Monster's Inc and the old Muppets building is. I mean I don't know, it might turn out fine but if just sounds so disconnected. I would be fine if they just turned all of that area into Marvel but left TOT as it were and they can expand it into the bus loading area as rumored, but GOTG has made that impossible.

                            So I started looking at the map and realized just how much more convenient it would be if ML moved into where ABL is now. Sure it is a bit smaller but if you include ITTBAB theater area you have a nice size plot with the backstage plot behind TOT of course where the rumored Marvel coaster is suppose to go its a decent size area. Now I don't know how big this area makes up in terms of acres but it seems like a good enough chunk where you can build one more big E-ticket attraction in IITBAB and maybe a smaller ride behind GOTG. I just think it would be better instead of turning HWL into this weird hodgepodge of Marvel stuff thrown in around it. I imagine it would be enough room to add a restaurant and a few stores as well with a meet and greet obviously. If they got rid of ITTBAB that can either be knocked down for an attraction or just used as a Marvel attraction theater. Actually do one better they probably can build a nice size simulation ride here.

                            Anyway just an idea. Know it won't happen but I think this would be so much better because you will now have a nice size Marvel land and GOTG would be the new weenie to it. Then Hollywood land would stay in tact completely. The only thing missing would be TOT itself. But imagine that whole corner just for Marvel. And this space could be DCA's tomorrowland basically now that GOTG is there and make it into a very high tech and sci fi area. Now GOTG MB seems pretty cool when its just the highlight of a really nice Marvel area.

                            As far as lack of kid rides, frankly I don't think ABL is as needed as it once were and there is nothing that stops them from adding 1 or 2 smaller rides for kids here. But I think it would go a long way if they had one thrill ride and a family ride of some kind like they are doing with Pandora. Just my thoughts.
                            Yeah.. I'm getting the sense that you don't have small children, or have friends that you attend the park with that have small children.. What you're proposing works out well for you and want you desire, but Disney needs to take the entire guest population into account. If you took out Bug's Land you'd be losing much more than FOUR children's rides. You'd be losing the child's water play area, of which there are TWO in Bug's Land, this is not offered anywhere else in California Adventure or Disneyland for that matter. The entire area is completely shaded, even as an adult if it is an unforgivingly hot day, my girlfriend and I will chill out in Bug's land for a bit and get some slushies. It's an awesome spot
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                            • #34
                              Bugsland is too small

                              Hollywood land has a lot of space no one cares about besides the Theater/Tot everything else can go and no one will care

                              And ToT is gone so....makes sense they want to gut a kiddie land with no shops/restaurants and replace it with something "hot"

                              Though it feels late liek this should have been done after avengers one not after the third Avengers movie
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                              • #35
                                Bugsland is on the chopping block.

                                Been through that area more than a few times this month and two of those times a survey CM has asked me about how much time I was in the area and my rating for the attractions.

                                Look for the area from the Bugs 3D theater / RSR FP machines to the Tower to be changed with the back of the Tower also being worked on for the Marvel Land.

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                                • #36
                                  I reeeeeeeally don't want Marvel Land to take over the entirety of Hollywoodland. So I'm crossing my fingers for Marveland to be in ABL and that back area.

                                  I get the need for kiddie attractions, I do. But ABL just feels lacking in appeal for anyone over the age of 7 and is based on a film that's pretty much forgotten (or unheard of) by most kids at this point. I would like to see DCA make kid-friendly attractions equal to the stuff in DL's Fantasyland to compensate, preferably from multiple films instead of cheesing out on the one-Pixar-film-land route.

                                  That said I'm also glad that the Monstropolis idea got scrapped for now. I'm still holding out for the possibility of the northern section of Hollywood getting a complete redo, as in raze all those soundstages north of Hyperion to the ground and put in a Toontown 2.0 and move the Roger Rabbit ride there. (Move Monsters Inc to DL's Tomorrowland for compensation, you've solved a couple of problems for both parks right there, IMO).

                                  Back on the subject of ABL, if the land itself doesn't go away, at least take out ITTBAB. For one thing, it should have never been cloned in the first place. This should have been DAK's one-of-kind centerpiece. Plus the theater isn't being used for the actual show half the time so what's the point?




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                                  • #37
                                    I would be just fine seeing ABL go away, provided they do accommodate the wee folk when they build something else. Can Marvel stuff do that? Not sure.

                                    I always look at Fantasyland as "the place for kids," and clearly ABL is not up to that standard. Maybe we've come to accept mediocrity? Anyhow, I look forward to something better than ABL for my Little People.

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                                    • #38
                                      Do not be surprise, to see both Hollywoodland and Bugsland,taken up by MARVEL !
                                      Were can DISNEY do more Advertisement for there name brand......

                                      I for a place, that little ones can enjoy ,Sorry Disney want's more shops/restaurants were the Money is!


                                      Now they can re-them the kids area........
                                      For Sea World and Universal Studios have done facelift on there kids area ,so many time why not ?
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                                      • #39
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                                        It would give the IP a decent amount of room to do it justice.

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                                        • #40
                                          Originally posted by Troy View Post
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                                          It would give the IP a decent amount of room to do it justice.
                                          Your new kiddie land causes at least two issues, one that is where the entrance to the hotel is and second, it is too close to the hotel which would be a noise issue. Also, in all honesty that is too much space for Marvel.

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