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    So what about an eco friendly Tommorrowland or maybe a Eco friendly attraction Wind Energy, Solor panels..etc. what you think

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    It's certainly something that they can work on. I'm pleased that they've switched from desiel to vegetable oil for the trains and soon the Mark Twain.
    It seems to me that as they referbish attractions, they could start making those small changes that add up.
    And we can all do our part by using the Jimminy Cricket recycling bins for our bottles and cans.

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      all the roofs should be covered in solar panels, plants can have low drip run off water

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        [quote=Lynn, Renaissance Woman]It's certainly something that they can work on. I'm pleased that they've switched from diesel to vegetable oil for the trains[/quote[

        I thought the trains were steam. Seriously, that's what it says on the announcement.
        When I go to Disneyland, I tune my FRS Radio to channel 2, without a quiet code. They're faster than a cell phone and you can talk to a whole group at a time, and you don't have to get everyone's cell phone number in advance.

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        • #5
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          ^Yes, they are steam trains. And that steam is generated by heating water, and that heat is now generated by burning bio-diesel which has been made from used and refined vegetable oil. Before that conversion, the trains burned standard diesel fuel to generate the heat needed to generate the steam.

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            no


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              Originally posted by Oswald the Rabbitt View Post
              So what about an eco friendly Tommorrowland or maybe a Eco friendly attraction Wind Energy, Solor panels..etc. what you think
              YES I agree completely, first off Tomorrowland should be just that about how we might play and live in the future, get rid of the cartoonish junk and make it all about the future as Walt intended.

              Go totally green show all the visitors from around the world that it can be done and Disney is proud to do it.

              first on the list is the autopia get ride of the big oil co sponsors and maybe have Toyota sponsor electric cars run off of solar and have solar panels on eveything get a co other BP as they are areally an oil co and have them sponsor the panels.

              Run the entire monorail system on solar

              in fact why not the whole park eventually put panels on the roofs of all these massive and mostly flat rooftops that contain the attractions as well as the parking structures and hotels.

              Im sure they would save a fortune on their electric bill too

              "This would be a great place if we could only get rid of all these people." - Walt Disney

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                I think that's definitely something that should be looked into. In the world of tommorrow, renewable resources are going to be a must.

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                • #9
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                  yes they would save money and become green Disneyland could pave the way into the future

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                  • #10
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                    Yes, as long as the results are aesthetically pleasing.

                    in fact why not the whole park eventually put panels on the roofs of all these massive and mostly flat rooftops that contain the attractions as well as the parking structures and hotels.

                    Im sure they would save a fortune on their electric bill too
                    If solar panels were that cost-effective, you'd see 'em everywhere. Unfortunately, they aren't particularly efficient, so they can cost more in some cases. So they're a good idea for the environment, but not so good for your bankers.

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                      Maybe make some windmills for windenergy from the santa ana winds

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                      • #12
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                        It kind of is green to some extent, in that a vast majority of the vegitation are edible. I would hope they actually USE them in the restaurants or something, as opposed to it just being for show.

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                          Originally posted by Datameister View Post
                          Yes, as long as the results are aesthetically pleasing.



                          If solar panels were that cost-effective, you'd see 'em everywhere. Unfortunately, they aren't particularly efficient, so they can cost more in some cases. So they're a good idea for the environment, but not so good for your bankers.
                          Im sorry forgive my french but bankers ok, did Disney ever once care about money, no he did what he knew was right...

                          people at disney worrying about money is why they are in the messes they are in they are too timid and only look at the bottom line and in this mental climate would never even build a POTC or HM using it would be too expensive as the excuse trust me they would.

                          get a panel co to sponsor it and past their name all over the place and provide the panels for free for the advertising........

                          btw they already have a larg solar array at Universal power most of the place and they do tell you what company donated them as advertisment!

                          so it can be done.

                          "This would be a great place if we could only get rid of all these people." - Walt Disney

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                          • #14
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                            i agree that Disneyland shouldn't worry about the money because if everybody sees that disney is using solar power and etc.. then maybe the rest of the world will follow thier lead. Replace Innoventions with the things that we might use in the future that will be environtmentally safe and be green. Such as household appliances running on solar power. Then they show the effects are using ths new products and how we can protect our world of tomorrow.

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                            • #15
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                              YES, YES IT SHOULD!

                              *Here-Here!*

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                              • #16
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                                Maybe a Green House of the future

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                                • #17
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                                  Im sorry forgive my french but bankers ok, did Disney ever once care about money, no he did what he knew was right...
                                  Sigh. Your French is forgiven, but your failure to understand the difference between now and then...well, that's another story. I totally get where you're coming from, and becoming more like Walt would definitely help the company. In fact, it is helping the company, as changes to the leadership have been made over the last few years. Being adventurous and pushing forward with risks is great...but it's not nearly as wise when you're a huge corporation.

                                  In the early days of Disneyland, it was Walt's brainchild. His work. He had a comparatively tiny group of workers, co-creators, investors, and interested citizens. In other words, if his risk-taking led to failures, the costs would be mostly to him and to those relatively few who chose to stand by him. As such, WED was able to take enormous risks and venture into never-before-seen realms of three-dimensional creativity. Walt's strategy could have failed. But it didn't. And a huge financial empire has been built on that success.

                                  The really sad and unfortunate but necessary truth is that Disney's leaders today have a very different responsibility. Their job is to make sure that Disney doesn't fail economically, because there are now thousands of people who depend on it--millions, if you count the customers. It's no longer Walt gambling with his own money and that of similar adventurous souls--it's decades of amassed reputation and expectations to maintain, both on the creative side and the financial side.

                                  So yes, Disney shouldn't care quite as much about saving money as they do now, and certainly nowhere near as much as they did not too long ago. But they can't purely adopt Walt's philosophy because there's too much at risk when you're dealing with a company this huge.

                                  EDIT: To give this post some semblance of on-topicness, I do happen to agree with you when it comes to the solar panel issue specifically, GothicManor. It could be a good thing. All I wanted to say was that a "screw finances" attitude will do wonderful things for the ideas, but if it's allowed to run totally rampant during the decision-making process, it will send them into debt. Moderation is an unfortunate necessity when it comes to this sort of thing in big businesses.
                                  Last edited by Datameister; 11-10-2007, 11:10 PM.

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                                  • #18
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                                    well im an unrealistic idealist and it takes people like that to get something new and different done and I like it that way! :-)

                                    Walt dreamed up the "impossible", Roy found the money to do it, Roy always said yes to Walt. Lucky Walt.

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                                    • #19
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                                      i would love for the whole park to run itself on renewable resources and to produce less waste and pollution...

                                      as for solar panels, on the documentary "Who Killed The Electric Car?", there is a man who owns a company that was making very effective, powerful, long lasting batteries for electric cars back in the day (in fact, they got so good that the automakers who did not want the electric car to catch on stopped using his batteries), and he also manufactures roofing tiles that are solar panels. the images that i saw of these looked very much like plain black roof shingles, not at all like the weird spotty glass things that i normally think of solar panels as.
                                      there's so much roofing in the park that is flat and hidden from the park-goer's sight, especially on backstage buildings, that i hardly think aesthetics would be a problem, since it wouldn't be necessary at all to put the panels up in on-stage areas.

                                      the thing with going green is that it's still not cost effective. companies think about the bottom line in the here and now, and they buy whatever supplies that are cheapest. products made from recycled materials or using eco-friendly methods are still slightly more expensive. however, it is my firm belief that, as with anything new on the market, the more people buy it, the more companies will make it (and mass-produce it), and the lower the price will be. that is the goal of the consumer who pays more for products like this; while it is an admirable thing to erase your own harmful "footprint" on the environment and certainly makes you feel much better to know that you're doing all you can, deep down we all know it's a drop in the bucket. it's kind of like voting. as more and more people start to do it though, it will get easier and make a much huger impact, so it's important to let the little voices be heard right now (and to do your part to buy green, etc). because deep down we all know that the more people do it, the easier (and more cost-effective!) it gets for everyone!

                                      (i hope that was intelligible.)

                                      a really good way to help the public learn about making changes to help the world and environment in this way would be to have some kind of information about it in tomorrowland... completely renewable energy is the one thing on the distant horizon today that can amaze people and is akin to the futuristic ideals of the 50s and 60s.
                                      "And all I ask is a tall ship and a star to steer her by" (John Masefield)


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                                        Re: Should Tommorrow Land Go Green

                                        Originally posted by Oswald the Rabbitt View Post
                                        So what about an eco friendly Tommorrowland or maybe a Eco friendly attraction Wind Energy, Solor panels..etc. what you think

                                        NO!! Please NO!! that would suck

                                        seriously though, yes, The subs went green too(sorry if that was already posted)

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