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  • #81
    Originally posted by Illy View Post

    I wouldn't be so presumptuous as to speak for the entirety of those millenials, but as someone who is a young millenial who's spent perhaps a bit more time than I'm proud of down in the deepest, darkest trenches of modern fandom culture and the black pits of tumblr, I think I can at least speak for a significant fraction of theme-park going millenials when I say this:
    • We hate to admit it, but we are absolutely nostalgia-driven. #tru90skids, the lot of us. We love being able to revisit childhood obsessions and re-examine them through an adult lens.
    • We HATE. HATE HATE HATE the exploitation of art and media for consumerist gain. We get it. Artists gotta put bread on the table somehow. A lot of us are artists and writers and content-producers in some shape or form, and the millenial's economic struggle is something people can write entire books about. At the same time, however, many of us have a strong belief that the media and storytelling world should be driven by the merit of their craft, and that artistic vision being compromised by market trends and number-crunching result in sub-par products (See: The Avatar: The Last Airbender film, as one example out of MANY). If we wanted to look at excel spreadsheets all day, we would have been one of those smart kids who took up a career in a STEM-oriented field. Keep that garbage out of our pretty colors and fancy words. (Side note: STEM kids are great and I love you guys. Please help me calibrate my 3D printer I can't figure out how to level the bed properly)
    • Building off of the above point: Exploitation of Fandom for consumerist gain also tends to be a bit dirty. Again, see the Avatar film as an example. For better or worse (I got the heck out of tumblr culture for a reason, but... Another story for another time), kids my age build communities off of shared interests in the media we consume, and we EXTREMELY dislike when people who do not understand try to force their way in with no greater motive than to make a quick buck.
    • Finally, as a whole: Despite the phenomena of "fandom" seeming to suggest otherwise, millenials are wildly disenfranchised with consumerist culture. Again, has to do a lot with a bunch of socio-economic stuff that ultimately adds up to "Millenials are mostly broke college students who look up to people who made money in the traditionally not-a-goldmine industry of content creation." Good ol' Walt is, by far, the biggest of those idols, going from bankrupting at least a couple different cartoon studios in The Middle of Nowhere, Missouri to becoming the largest Media-producing giant on the face of the planet out of sheer bull-headedness and believing in his own artistic merit and his understanding of his audience when everyone else told him he was an idiot. Yes, Walt was also a shrewd businessman who finally figured out how to make a buck when he came to LA, but he definitely wasn't a traditional businessman making traditional decisions in any shape or form. That's the Disney we all idolize and who's legacy (As grossly cult-of-personality as that sounds) we come to see when we go to the parks, not... Whatever the heck Bob Iger is doing.
    So, Too Long, Didn't Read: Gross, pimply young people who spend all day looking at their phones consist of 50% of Disney's audience, and they already get enough advertisements for Star Wars and Guardians of the Galaxy fed to them by Google Ad Sense. We like to come to Disneyland because it's a place to get away from that garbage, and we end up with our faces stuck in our phones anyway because we finally get here and it's more of the same. (Also, because it makes the older folks here angry and that's hilarious.) Perhaps it's stuck-up and entitled to think that Disneyland should suddenly bend to our will just because our demographic essentially flash-mobbed it in the past 5-10 years (And, after all, isn't "Stuck-up and entitled" the millenial's reputation?), but... A lot of those folks ARE coming here for "The art and spirit" of it, and all they're getting in return is construction photos of bulldozers flattening the art and spirit out of the park for the next big cross-promotional brand deal.
    Same song, different generation, Gen-X'ers have gone through this same cycle.

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    • #82
      The Space Mountain Theme Song is Here's to the Future and You. Which is the True theme Song of Space Mountain since 1975 in Orlando. Sing to the Words: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nvNeiEn_xMU

      Here's to the future!
      Here's to the future!
      Here's to the future!
      Here's to the future and you!
      It's a world full of color, of perfect harmony.
      A world full of music, a living melody.
      The dreams of tomorrow are beginning today.
      It's a world of discovery, that oncing far away.
      There's knowledge and vision, of spaceships in flight.
      Dimension in sound, achievements in sight.
      So here's to the future, that's coming into view.
      It's a world of living color and pleasure just for you.
      Let your dreams leads the way.
      Leads the way.
      Let your dreams the way.
      Leads the way.
      Leads the way.

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      • #83
        I remember when they added the speakers and the Dick Dale soundtrack in '94/'95ish and I hated it a lot. But it then grew on me and I learned to like it. Then after the '05 refurb they added Giacchino's music and I had to learn to love that as well. lol BUT, as boring as it sounds, I'd love to be able to ride Space Mtn again with no speaker music and just enjoy it the way it used to be. It was more eery and space-like when there was no music I guess. Remember, in space no one can hear you scream (Alien tagline). Funny how many iterations of Space Mtn we have had in only 20 or so years. I count no less than...5?

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        • #84
          Originally posted by DarthBrett78 View Post
          Funny how many iterations of Space Mtn we have had in only 20 or so years. I count no less than...5?
          I count 7:
          1) OG with no music.
          2) Dick Dale doing the Aquarium movement from Camille Saint-Saëns' Carnival of the Animals.
          3) Giaccino orechstral score.
          4) Hyperspace Mountain
          5) Ghost Galaxy
          6) Rockin' Space Mountain featuring RHCP.
          7) Rockit Mountain featuring...... Hoobastank.
          "In Hell, everybody loves popcorn."

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          • #85
            Originally posted by deadwinterskies View Post

            I count 7:
            1) OG with no music.
            2) Dick Dale doing the Aquarium movement from Camille Saint-Saëns' Carnival of the Animals.
            3) Giaccino orechstral score.
            4) Hyperspace Mountain
            5) Ghost Galaxy
            6) Rockin' Space Mountain featuring RHCP.
            7) Rockit Mountain featuring...... Hoobastank.
            I forgot about Ghost Galaxy!!! But wasn't the Rockit Mtn with Hoobastank only for grad nite guests after the park closed? I guess technically that counts, although I think only 6 have really been open to the public for an extended amount of time.

            If I had to rate the 6 versions from favorite to least favorite - Original with no music, '05 Giaccchino version, '95 Dick Dale version, Ghost Galaxy, Hyperspace Mtn and then finally Rockin' Space Mtn with the RHCP. I like them all, though.

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            • #86
              Originally posted by DarthBrett78 View Post
              But wasn't the Rockit Mtn with Hoobastank only for grad nite guests after the park closed?
              That and cast parties.
              "In Hell, everybody loves popcorn."

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              • #87
                Originally posted by Illy View Post
                Disneyland, after all, was built by a man who was going against the grain of the market bandwagon at the time, and was doing something that would push the envelope rather than follow in the footsteps of whatever was the latest craze. All his investors thought he was crazy, and he ended up essentially turning theme parks as a whole from a roadside oddity into an actual industry.

                So yes, it is a tad disappointing when the people in charge of the park forget where they came from.... [snip]

                ....A lot of those folks ARE coming here for "The art and spirit" of it, and all they're getting in return is construction photos of bulldozers flattening the art and spirit out of the park for the next big cross-promotional brand deal.
                Excellent post!

                "With the acquisition of Marvel and now of Lucasfilm,
                Disney may have finally found the grail. You don't need
                imagination or art. All you need is a brand."

                - Neil Gabler

                "I didn't know the story of baby Jesus could be any better,
                until Thor told it to me."
                -
                Young girl at Disneyland's 2017 Candlelight Ceremony
                narrated by Chris Hemsworth

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