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  • Eagleman
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    Inappropriate behavior ,in the workplace !
    Media and Social climate in this country ,has been going on for months now.
    and in fact ,not going away .... but getting stronger.......new names on long list !
    We seen the last Mr. Lasseter at the Disney Company. IMO

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  • Mr Wiggins
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    Originally posted by tarheelalum View Post
    No chance of this guy keeping his job in any capacity. The media and social climate in this country will not allow it. But Disney may want/try to keep the guy, but wait until the SJW types get wind of it and he will be done. Talent is not going to save him.
    Exactly. Disney management may arm wrestle internally over the decision, but at the end of the day they'll protect the Company's reputation as family-friendly and intolerant of sexual harassment in the workplace.

    The fact that the top executives are financiers, marketeers, strategic planners, and consumer product gurus, who share a view of creative artists as "wrists for hire," won't help John. The old Roy-faction mindset of "Walt almost bankrupted the Company uncounted times; Roy saved it," is still strong in Burbank.

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  • tarheelalum
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    No chance of this guy keeping his job in any capacity. The media and social climate in this country will not allow it. But Disney may want/try to keep the guy, but wait until the SJW types get wind of it and he will be done. Talent is not going to save him.

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  • Spongeocto4
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    6 months have now passed, meaning Lasseter's sabbatical is at an end. Surprisingly his career might not be over.

    As I posted on another thread, Disney is reportedly, STILL undecided on the fate of his job. As the article belows says:
    Executives at WaltDisney Co. have discussed bringing animation guru John Lasseter back to the company in a new role that would reduce his managerial power but allow him to retain creative influence, according to a person familiar with the matter.
    ...but also points out that:
    ...Mr. Lasseter has disappeared from public view. Disney employees said they haven’t heard from him and don’t know where he is.
    A management restructuring is still possible, as the article mentions.
    Executives at Walt Disney have discussed bringing animation guru John Lasseter back to the company in a new role that would reduce his managerial power but allow him to retain creative influence.

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  • micromind
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    Considering the potential loss of revenue, I wouldn't be one bit surprised if TDC is hoping this will just disappear.........

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  • Jim in Merced CA
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    It’s interesting to see who has been forced out - Harvey Weinstein, Louis CK, Roy Wood, Al Franken, Charlie Rose and Matt Lauer — and those who have allegedly done things or have had things said about them — Dustin Hoffman, John Lassiter even George Takei, and not much has happened.

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  • Spongeocto4
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    About 5 weeks have passed, and Lasseter has not been fired, publicly resigned or retired. I'm surprised.

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  • Eagleman
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    I think there going be a major cleaning .......with the Disney company
    Disney Directors very upset ,with CEO IGER
    with all the bad press the company been getting and with harassment's has occurred on IGER watch!
    Change is in the making.

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  • DLFan1995
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    Originally posted by Mr Wiggins View Post

    Exactly. And people shouldn't be surprised if there's also no coming back for those in top Disney management who protected and enabled John all the years that his behavior was a known issue. Anyone who thinks the problem is only about one guy hasn't been paying attention to the cases of sexual abuse that have been exposed in other companies and institutions. Disney's Board of Directors is likely to take a dim view of a management hierarchy that colludes to violate its own policies and threaten the reputation of its uniquely family-friendly brand. Disney's top management, including and especially Bob Iger, are going to have a lot of questions to answer. And that's not even considering the information that could be leaked to the press -- emails, meeting notes, eyewitnesses, video -- or come out during any civil litigation. Stay tuned -- this may be only the beginning of a major Mousequake in Disney's corporate culture.
    While the focus is on Lasseter & Disney explanations, don't expect THAT to be the ONLY harassment issue to come up. Now that victims are emboldened, there is more than likely other Disney executives (and lower levels) being accused if any past sexual (and other) harassment has occurred.

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  • DLFan1995
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    Originally posted by Mr Wiggins View Post

    John is done at Disney. The Company makes everyone at director level and above sign off that they've read and agreed to the voluminous HR documents about inappropriate behavior in the workplace. These guys not only know better, they sign their names promising they won't engage in this behavior.
    While Lasseter is the currents story, as sexual (and other) harassment has broken lose and more victims have spoken up, look for other Disney executives (and other lower levels) to be exposed. Numerous harassment issues have been overlooked and/or unreported (sudden reasonably unexplained reassignments or resignations). With the wave of current accusations providing confidence to victims, more will likely be revealed.

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  • Mr Wiggins
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    Originally posted by Spongeocto4 View Post
    Brenda Chapman left Pixar, after Brave was released.
    My guess, she wasn't happy, because she was demoted on Brave, as she was the intended Director for the Film.
    Yep. Ed could, and should, get her back (after they clean house at Testosterone Terrace).


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  • Spongeocto4
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    Originally posted by Mr Wiggins View Post

    Andrew Stanton, Pete Doctor and Brad Bird could fill John's creative shoes (as long as they're vetted to make sure they have no abuse skeletons in their closets). And Pixar will be missing a bet if they don't move Brenda Chapman up the creative ladder. It's long past time.
    Brenda Chapman left Pixar, after Brave was released.
    My guess, she wasn't happy, because she was demoted on Brave, as she was the intended Director for the Film.

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  • Mr Wiggins
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    Originally posted by Spongeocto4 View Post
    Jim Morris (President of Pixar) or Andrew Millstein (President of Disney Animation)could be semi-promoted to fill the void, as well. Or, no replacement is made, and Ed Catmull assumes all duties.

    Don't forget John also oversaw Imagineering as 'Principal Creative Adviser'. Granted the position may only be honorary, but if not then, they'll have promote another person.

    The next several months could be a nightmare to Iger. Add to the fact, Kevin Feige's (MCU Pres.) contract is up next year AND Iger need to look for a successor for HIS job next year as well.
    Andrew Stanton, Pete Doctor and Brad Bird could fill John's creative shoes (as long as they're vetted to make sure they have no abuse skeletons in their closets). And Pixar will be missing a bet if they don't move Brenda Chapman up the creative ladder. It's long past time.

    The bigger challenge will be to educate and enlighten the 14-year-old-boy's-club culture that permeates the Emeryville, Burbank and Glendale campuses. They need to bring in a team of topnotch behavioral therapists to give everyone from the CEO down intensive sensitivity training on what abuse is in the first place; put reporting systems in place for the employees; and continually monitor the issue with an outside, independent HR department.

    Longterm, there will be the damage to the internal status and authority of Disney's and Pixar's creatives. Executive beancounters and marketeers will feast on this like flies at a picnic, and use it to disempower creatives and straightjacket production budgets.

    Last edited by Mr Wiggins; 11-25-2017, 01:42 PM.

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  • Spongeocto4
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    Jim Morris (President of Pixar) or Andrew Millstein (President of Disney Animation)could be semi-promoted to fill the void, as well. Or, no replacement is made, and Ed Catmull assumes all duties.

    Don't forget John also oversaw Imagineering as 'Principal Creative Adviser'. Granted the position may only be honorary, but if not then, they'll have promote another person.

    The next several months could be a nightmare to Iger. Add to the fact, Kevin Feige's (MCU Pres.) contract is up next year AND Iger need to look for a successor for HIS job next year as well.

    EDIT: There is some irony, that this is occuring close to Black Friday, as it's been 24 years since the infamous Black Friday Toy Story test real, that nearly canceled the film, which was directed by John.
    Last edited by Spongeocto4; 11-24-2017, 07:34 PM. Reason: Added the infamous Black Friday Toy Story Reel

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  • micromind
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    This has got to be an absolutely horrible dilemma for TDC.......on one hand, John represents millions, maybe even billions in future revenue. On the other hand,........

    I think Mr Wiggins brings up a good point; if this has been going on for any length of time and other execs knew about it and did nothing to stop it, there may very well be a serious housecleaning in the near future.

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  • Eagleman
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    Major Shareholder's and some Disney's Board of Directors ,are talking about New Leadership overall !
    (Even before the ,John Lasseter story ,broke the new 's )
    Bob Iger time may be closer to the end !
    As Disney family-friendly brand goes........it been going down hill for long , long ,time.
    The Mouse Trap is set, in Burbank !

    John Lasseter went out the one-way door !

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  • Mr Wiggins
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    Originally posted by WaltDisney'sAlec View Post
    ...It's just a shame they saw this as something they could sweep under the rug because John was worth it, which really is unfortunate. Maybe Disney (and hopefully other companies as well) will revamp their HR department as a result of these actions coming to light. I definitely expect Bob Iger to address this in his next shareholder call. There's no coming back from this for John, though.
    Exactly. And people shouldn't be surprised if there's also no coming back for those in top Disney management who protected and enabled John all the years that his behavior was a known issue. Anyone who thinks the problem is only about one guy hasn't been paying attention to the cases of sexual abuse that have been exposed in other companies and institutions. Disney's Board of Directors is likely to take a dim view of a management hierarchy that colludes to violate its own policies and threaten the reputation of its uniquely family-friendly brand. Disney's top management, including and especially Bob Iger, are going to have a lot of questions to answer. And that's not even considering the information that could be leaked to the press -- emails, meeting notes, eyewitnesses, video -- or come out during any civil litigation. Stay tuned -- this may be only the beginning of a major Mousequake in Disney's corporate culture.
    Last edited by Mr Wiggins; 11-23-2017, 11:55 AM.

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  • WaltDisney'sAlec
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    Originally posted by Mr Wiggins View Post

    While I don't discuss my sources, the Disney Employee Policy Manual has been online for some time. The sections on Employee Conduct and Prohibition of Harassment are particularly relevant in light of the Vanity Fair article, which cites sources that say Disney management knew about John's behavior years ago:
    I trust your sources, if only based on your past record alone. For what it's worth, the discipline section of the employee handbook only says that the discipline for a violation of these policies may be termination, but it doesn't have to be. That would definitely be in line with Whipland's assertion that Disney's HR department is no different from any other corporate conglomerate. There are some moments where I expect Disney's reputation for being family-friendly to be something that holds it to a higher standard that other companies. It's just a shame they saw this as something they could sweep under the rug because John was worth it, which really is unfortunate. Maybe Disney (and hopefully other companies as well) will revamp their HR department as a result of these actions coming to light. I definitely expect Bob Iger to address this in his next shareholder call. There's no coming back from this for John, though.

    P.S.: A Happy Thanksgiving to my fellow Micechatters!
    Last edited by WaltDisney'sAlec; 11-23-2017, 09:04 AM. Reason: Thanskgiving wishes

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  • Nesboy43
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    There is no way John is coming back. Having him leave as a break was a PR Move for Disney where they look good without big headlines of him being fired. In 6 months he will not be returning. I wonder if this impacts Pixar Pier in any way.

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  • Eagleman
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    John Lasseter , EGO went to far ,and it is another embarrassment for Disney
    And the company and management , can not continue to go with a blind eye , as well
    a zero-tolerance policy on Inappropriate behavior ,in the workplace ,must take place .
    John Lasseter went out the one-way door !

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